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I take it you are talking about graphics, not sales. Because MGS3, after being out for over a year in NA, sold 3.6 million units WORLDWIDE on the PS2...the system with the largest install base. Gears of War, a brand new property on a system with a much, much smaller install base, sold 4 million copies WORLDWIDE in the first five months.
Graphics.
But of the two, we both know which is better between MGS3 and GOW. Least you should.
Yup, Gears of War sure is awesome.
So I assume you're saying if I prefer GoW, I'm wrong? What are your credentials to make these sorts of decisions? Are you licensed by the state? When was the last time you renewed your license?
Ok, so he just told you off and now your argument is:
"yeah, I may have been wrong...but that other game sure sucks,doesn't it? LOLZ!"
His Sony Fanboy license is valid through the next three console generations.
Sure its pretty, but one is a good game, the other is a nice game lacking a coherent story.
I hate you. You just made me angry at MGS3 for assotiotiating with you. Allso MGS3 has a Coherent story? its a great story but confusing as hell.
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Perhaps you should look up 'coherent.' GoW's story might be simple and cliche, but its definitely coherent.
Motherfucking monster race that lives underground rises up and wrecks our shit. Now the last bastions of humanity have found something that can put an end to those dirty motherfuckers and save humanity. Rar.
What didn't you understand about that? Do you not get stories unless there's robots with nukes?
Yes its the least confusing but still. We have a bisexural sadist who wants to create a war or some nonsense. Then you have have the boss whos a triple agent and Eve who is so much of a traiter she could give Weasker a run for his money. Just keeping up with them is a hassle.
P.S. and I swear I will never understand what the mech was supposed to do, ever.
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My only point is that MGS4 is not the silver bullet to save the PS3. Will it be a system seller? Sure, but who will be buying a PS3 for MGS4? Just a niche market, many of whom are "hardcore" gamers who either have a 360 already or are die hard fanboys who were waiting for a really good reason to buy a PS3 and would never have bought a 360 anyway. It'll help bump the PS3 up but it won't put more than a scratch on the 360's lead.
Now you're using the wrong adjective entirely. The story was very coherent, what story elements there were were communicated rather clearly and easily. The real problem was that it was underdeveloped, but even that's debateable. Saying the plot of Gears of War is underdeveloped would be kind of like saying the plot of 300 was underdeveloped, that's really not the POINT of either GOW or 300. They are about balls to the wall action and ass kicking, and being all out of bubblegum. So really, given the objective of the game, I'd say it did a damn good job.
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Underground monsters wrecking shit isn't a story. As missions progressed I didn't know why the hell I was doing what I was doing for most of the time. Why the hell was I firing some train into a hole in the ground again?
I don't think many people would argue that GeoW's story was a bit underdone, but that doesn't automatically make it an inferior game. Last I checked DarkWarrior, your opinion wasn't automatically worth more than others' opinions.
No I'm pretty sure that's a story. It definitely fits the definition. Whether it's a simplistic story or not is entirely besides the point of the game, as I've already mentioned.
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What the fuck are you talking about The Warlock? God why must you be so wrong all the time? The love triangle between Pikachu, Sheik, and Peach was fucking riveting. I CRIED MY EYES OUT.
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whether or not the point of 300 or GoW was the story doesn't change the fact that the story was underdeveloped.
and "Underground monsters wrecking shit" is definitely not a story. It's a premise, a plot, a set-up. The execution of that premise is the story. And while there wasnt any off-the-wall zonkiness in GoW, there were certainly some parts of the execution where i had to stop and wonder wtf i was doing. then i got attacked by some locust and didnt care so much anymore.
MGS4 does win in animation though. That must be the power of Cell! Bow down?
Seriously, if you want the best available graphics, go buy a super-expensive PC and get Crysis ( I know it hasn't been released yet, but neither has MGS4).
Also, what is your problem, DarkWarrior? Just calm down.
In PAL regions, the PS3 is selling faster, quite a bit faster, than the 360 did, and the 360 didn't have any competition. The PS3 sold 1,000,000 consoles (sold, not shipped) in 9 weeks in PAL regions. It took the 360 a month or so longer to do this.
Of course you can, nothing I said at any point denies that, I merely state that that was not the point. Furthermore, the term underdeveloped I think does not really apply when the story is something attached because there has to be something there at all and for no other reason. Underdeveloped implies a need is met inadequately, and there is no need at all for story when the game is about mindless ass kicking. Complaining about the lack of story is like bitching about the lack of a story in 300 even when you have foreknowledge that this movie EXISTS for action for the sake of action.
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I'm willing to bet part of the 50 million entails every GTA IV ad has the "Xbox 360" splash screen at the end of it. And I'm also willing to bet it'll air at least 4 times an hour on ESPN for a month straight. Right there should ensure people say "Whoa, XBox got that? I'm sold".
Rockstar would be stupid to agree with this, though. They're not going to want to do anything which impact their ability to sell GTA IV to the existing PS3 base, which means they very much are going to want to tout the fact that it's a PS3 game and a 360 game.
Figure that 900,000 copies of the game bring in about $50M in revenue. Also figure that GTA IV is a game targeted at the mainstream, and that the mainstream market is very reliant upon ad campaigns and media blitzes. They want TV spots to scream to the casual gamers, "Look, here's a game you'll love!" If they tailor their ads such that they never mention the PS3, that would likely cost them far more than 900,000 copies, which would mean that they got a bum deal.
but if a player doesnt care about story in the first place, obviously theyre not gonna care how good the story actually is. so eh.
as long as they make their money back, along with as much more as possible, they wont care what console the game sells most on(or by what margin). will they advertise the game was being available for both consoles? yes. they'd be stupid not to. will this stop them from mentioning that one of those version will get extra content? no, cause they're going to want to sell that too.
i wouldn't be at all surprised if the DLC was mentioned explicitly on the 360 versions case, along with all the other selling points/crap they put on there.
I agree. I doubt the TV ads are going exclude the PS3, nor will they probably mention the exclusive episodic content.
However, I am willing to bet that in-store displays and 360 packaging will have plenty of marketing that mentions the exclusivity. Additionally, I'm sure store clerks are going to get a lot of, "Well, what's the difference between the PS3 and 360 versions?", and obviously it makes sense for them to mention it then. That question may come up quite a bit, actually, as people start to make pre-orders for the game.
Of course, if all you have is a 360, or all you have is a PS3, then it probably doesn't matter either way. You're just going to get the version for the console you own.
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It's not an issue of not caring about story bud, I'm a lover of Baldurs Gate 2, Torment, Deus Ex, etc. But just like you come to those games for the story, not so much for the action, you go to other games for action and not a story. Some games do strike a balance and that's awesome, but sometimes players aren't in a mood for one or the other and thus games like Gears of War exists to satisfy those moods.
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Not to mention that Rockstar would prefer ppl buy the 360 version, if they have a choice, because then they can sell them the DLC. So R* can profit more off 360 versions than PS3 versions
So instead I'll be wasting time in Lair (so long that damn game doesnt keep getting pushed back)...
My guess is that MS just paid them to make the exclusive content, and that the boxes will highlight this content, but that Rockstar-made ads are not going to mention any difference between the two versions.
i.... i don't quite get what you're saying here...O_o are you implying that the DLC will be restricted in availability based upon peoples gamerscores?
He probably thinks Gamerscore points = MS points.
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as i said before, this doesn't stop MS from using GTA IV and mention of its exclusive content in future 360 ads. or on the games packaging. or in any GTA IV related material(videos/demos/etc) released on the marketplace. each/any of these combined with word of mouth will get the word out there. whether or not it does so to the level that MS wants is another matter, but they will make it an issue.
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The video of the developer I saw stated that it was getting a 360 release first, but mainly because they wanted to have more time to impliment THREEAXIS functionality.
And also, I thought it was a "real" game, not Live Arcade.
games can get by without it, absolutely. it doesn't change in the least that the devs didnt put that much effort into it and didnt develop the story as much as they did the gameplay. just because you dont care doesnt mean we cant expect higher standards. bud.
what about those developers that don't have writers on staff? surely they'd be better off sticking with the bare-bones or no story at all than trying to shoe-horn in some poorly written, convoluted mess to justify the action.