If nothing else, I hope the iPhone does well so that other phone companies can finally get off their asses and make some cool stuff that is actually functional.
Like a year down the road see Motorola release a phone for 1/3 the cost of the iPhone, but works on all carriers, has a badass screen, tons of memory, and will wash dishes and bake pies.
That would be pretty sweet, guys.
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So there's no voice dialing... is there any hands-free option at all?
Or is this phone completely illegal to use while driving in CA.
It comes with headphones with a mic on the cord. The iPod automatically pauses music when you have a call coming in. The mic in the headphones is also pinch-sensitive - like you can pinch it to pause music, double-pinch to skip forward, pinch to answer a call, shit like that.
So there's no voice dialing... is there any hands-free option at all?
Or is this phone completely illegal to use while driving in CA.
It comes with headphones with a mic on the cord. The iPod automatically pauses music when you have a call coming in. The mic in the headphones is also pinch-sensitive - like you can pinch it to pause music, double-pinch to skip forward, pinch to answer a call, shit like that.
You're saying a web application works with a device which is said to work with web applications?
I didn't expect that.
You're a moron.
I guess instead of the constant insults you seem to post every time, you could enlighten the morons on what is so important/special.
If you want, ya know whatever, this is SE++ not "We give a rats ass++"
Yeah, labels are nice.
Here's another one, you're a moron too.
It's like here's a thread about the iPhone. I was just on msn with my friend who was testing web messenger on it, happened to pass it to the VP who told me "hey bud, sup".
To me I think that's pretty neat news.
You don't think so that's fine, I can deal with that.
If you don't think it's valid considering no other web based browser on a phone, which in the past has made claims that it can do x, when it can't and you can climb on some tarded down version on your little wap browser, I kind of think you're talking out of you ass to put in your usual 2 cents.
You're saying a web application works with a device which is said to work with web applications?
I didn't expect that.
You're a moron.
I guess instead of the constant insults you seem to post every time, you could enlighten the morons on what is so important/special.
If you want, ya know whatever, this is SE++ not "We give a rats ass++"
Yeah, labels are nice.
Here's another one, you're a moron too.
It's like here's a thread about the iPhone. I was just on msn with my friend who was testing web messenger on it, happened to pass it to the VP who told me "hey bud, sup".
To me I think that's pretty neat news.
You don't think so that's fine, I can deal with that.
If you don't think it's valid considering no other web based browser on a phone, which in the past has made claims that it can do x, when it can't and you can climb on some tarded down version on your little wap browser, I kind of think you're talking out of you ass to put in your usual 2 cents.
That's mine.
My retarded little WAP browser?
Um, no, I have PIE (which does suck for more advanced web based systems like Youtube, etc) and I have Opera. Not Opera Mini, but the full Opera made for Smartphones that renders full websites just like the iPhone claims to do.
I also have Octro Chat which does AIM/MSN/Yahoo/Google Talk/Skype, and more all in one app.
So yeah, whats your point?
Web Messenger programs have been available on every phone, the problem is that they rarely run in the background reliably. My Octro Chat can stay on 24/7 and not interupt my use of my phone.
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That opera browser is pretty awesome. I really like it.
Also, I found out I can get a NES emulator on my BB!
That opera browser is pretty awesome. I really like it.
Also, I found out I can get a NES emulator on my BB!
Yeah the emulators are fun to have. Also, not sure if they have this for BB, but you can get a Java emulator as well that lets you play all the games that you would play on non-smartphone/blackberry devices.
I know that isn't the coolest thing ever, but there are some pretty good games and apps out there.
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Probably. There are shitloads of hacks and cracks for BBs. I found a plug-in where I can actually change the color of scroll ball on my pearl. It's blue now instead of white.
Um, no, I have PIE (which does suck for more advanced web based systems like Youtube, etc) and I have Opera. Not Opera Mini, but the full Opera made for Smartphones that renders full websites just like the iPhone claims to do.
I also have Octro Chat which does AIM/MSN/Yahoo/Google Talk/Skype, and more all in one app.
So yeah, whats your point?
Web Messenger programs have been available on every phone, the problem is that they rarely run in the background reliably. My Octro Chat can stay on 24/7 and not interupt my use of my phone.
My point was simply that the web browser on the iPhone was able to pull up a site and log into a program that I haven't seen done on other smart phones before and I thought it was neat.
That's it.
I didn't list off the myriad other uses, potential applications and throw down an e-peen the size of my thigh onto the table. I just made a passing comment.
Can Opera do this? I don't know.
By the way, if you're transmitting data, you can't do voice, unless you're using an alternate connectivity method such as WiFi.
You don't know how many people I've talked to that bought a product that had claimed X and when it came time to deliver, it didn't do it.
Um, no, I have PIE (which does suck for more advanced web based systems like Youtube, etc) and I have Opera. Not Opera Mini, but the full Opera made for Smartphones that renders full websites just like the iPhone claims to do.
I also have Octro Chat which does AIM/MSN/Yahoo/Google Talk/Skype, and more all in one app.
So yeah, whats your point?
Web Messenger programs have been available on every phone, the problem is that they rarely run in the background reliably. My Octro Chat can stay on 24/7 and not interupt my use of my phone.
My point was simply that the web browser on the iPhone was able to pull up a site and log into a program that I haven't seen done on other smart phones before and I thought it was neat.
That's it.
I didn't list off the myriad other uses, potential applications and throw down an e-peen the size of my thigh onto the table. I just made a passing comment.
Can Opera do this? I don't know.
By the way, if you're transmitting data, you can't do voice, unless you're using an alternate connectivity method such as WiFi.
You don't know how many people I've talked to that bought a product that had claimed X and when it came time to deliver, it didn't do it.
That may have been true years ago, or with GSM, or whatever. But with EVDO you can still receive voice while using Data. I think EDGE has this ability as well.
Also, yes you can log into a messanger app through most phones web browsers. In fact on any Sprint phone it comes with the links to Yahoo, MSN, and AIM that you navigate and log into through the built in WAP browser and it works quite well, the only problem being when you close the browser it logs you off.
But for Smartphones, no, this has been around for years. That is all I am saying, I just was against you calling people morons without giving a reason as to why they were. That shit is annoying.
The honest truth is, the iPhone offer nothing new or revolutionary beyond the way you interact with it (touchscreen/multi touch).
That does not give it a right to a $600 price tag.
It can surf the web at very slow speeds and play a limited amount of I-tuneS from it's small memory while draining the non-removeable battery at a dizzying rate!
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That may have been true years ago, or with GSM, or whatever. But with EVDO you can still receive voice while using Data. I think EDGE has this ability as well.
EDGE does not, or at least I get an error if I try and use a browser during a voice call when I'm using EDGE. I actually haven't tried it with 3G, so I can't speak to that.
It can surf the web at very slow speeds and play a limited amount of I-tuneS from it's small memory while draining the non-removeable battery at a dizzying rate!
I think the memory is pretty great for a phone, but not for a media player.
"Sweet guys! I just loaded 200 songs and 4 movies on my iPhone!"
"So... then what?"
"Well then I can connect it to my computer and load some others!"
No thanks, I will stick to my iPod, I would have rather Apple made a badass looking phone with 1-2gigs of built in memory plus an expansion slot for some cheap $10 2 gig SD cards and had it cost $300.
But NOOOOOOOO
Giving you what you don't need and taking away what you would use is Apple's job 1 lately it seems like.
"Hey guys we just designed the new Macbook Pro, it has a faster processor and more memory and a bigger hard drive than anything else, looks amazing and has great reliability!"
That may have been true years ago, or with GSM, or whatever. But with EVDO you can still receive voice while using Data. I think EDGE has this ability as well.
EDGE does not, or at least I get an error if I try and use a browser during a voice call when I'm using EDGE. I actually haven't tried it with 3G, so I can't speak to that.
Ok 3G might, I know EVDO does as I said, but if you are in a non-EVDO area (standard 1x) then from what I have read you can't do data and voice at the same time.
Thankfully, I have not gone to many places that are not EVDO.
That may have been true years ago, or with GSM, or whatever. But with EVDO you can still receive voice while using Data. I think EDGE has this ability as well.
EDGE does not, or at least I get an error if I try and use a browser during a voice call when I'm using EDGE. I actually haven't tried it with 3G, so I can't speak to that.
Ok 3G might, I know EVDO does as I said, but if you are in a non-EVDO area (standard 1x) then from what I have read you can't do data and voice at the same time.
Thankfully, I have not gone to many places that are not EVDO.
Sprint's data network is much better.
I leave 3G off more of the time since it drains my phone's battery so fast. If I need to do somethign more than just light browsing I'll turn it on, but otherwise I stick to EDGE. It's really slow, but works in a pinch.
see i still don't care about all this edge stuff because i'd just use wifi on it all the time
but i guess it'd be nice to have 3g or whatever
At my work and that we don't have a very good Wifi connection.
See, part of the iPhone's thing is that its great for stuff like e-mail, well, if you get an e-mail with an attachment, then you are looking at a long download, and if the voice is not usable during that download as was pointed out, then you could be missing calls waiting for an e-mail to finish.
If I was at home or school where I do have Wifi, well then I just use my laptop so I would not need the iPhone anyway.
I guess the iPhone may work for some people, but I am just not seeing who that is yet. I guess I should reserve judgement until its actually been out for awhile.
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see i still don't care about all this edge stuff because i'd just use wifi on it all the time
but i guess it'd be nice to have 3g or whatever
At my work and that we don't have a very good Wifi connection.
See, part of the iPhone's thing is that its great for stuff like e-mail, well, if you get an e-mail with an attachment, then you are looking at a long download, and if the voice is not usable during that download as was pointed out, then you could be missing calls waiting for an e-mail to finish.
If I was at home or school where I do have Wifi, well then I just use my laptop so I would not need the iPhone anyway.
I guess the iPhone may work for some people, but I am just not seeing who that is yet. I guess I should reserve judgement until its actually been out for awhile.
This depends on how email works on it, which I admit not to knowing much about it.
One of the reasons I got the blackjack is that i could use it with my exchange server at home and use push email. It works jsut like a blackberry, and works great over edge. I receive message headers as they arrive, along with the first however many bytes of a message. If I want to download the attachment I can (usually switching to 3G first), but it doesn't do it automatically.
see i still don't care about all this edge stuff because i'd just use wifi on it all the time
but i guess it'd be nice to have 3g or whatever
At my work and that we don't have a very good Wifi connection.
See, part of the iPhone's thing is that its great for stuff like e-mail, well, if you get an e-mail with an attachment, then you are looking at a long download, and if the voice is not usable during that download as was pointed out, then you could be missing calls waiting for an e-mail to finish.
If I was at home or school where I do have Wifi, well then I just use my laptop so I would not need the iPhone anyway.
I guess the iPhone may work for some people, but I am just not seeing who that is yet. I guess I should reserve judgement until its actually been out for awhile.
This depends on how email works on it, which I admit not to knowing much about it.
One of the reasons I got the blackjack is that i could use it with my exchange server at home and use push email. It works jsut like a blackberry, and works great over edge. I receive message headers as they arrive, along with the first however many bytes of a message. If I want to download the attachment I can (usually switching to 3G first), but it doesn't do it automatically.
Yeah thats true, my Q can do headers and message stubs as well I just don't use it so I wasn't thinking about it.
But the reviews say the way the iPhone works as far as e-mail and text messaging is really well done.
They were not too happy about making phone calls though. I guess its like 6+ steps. That is one thing I love about my Q, you just start typing a persons name or phone number from about anywhere and names come up.
I am sure a Blackberry is the same way.
I guess the iPhone though is like:
Unlock the phone
Press the Homescreen Button
Open the Address Book
Start the on-screen Keyboard
Type the name
Send
Instead of mine which is like:
Unlock
Type
Send
or just Unlock and hold down the number 2 or 3 or whatever for speed-dial.
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I think the 6 steps thing is a worst case senario, though. Like if your phone is sleeping and locked and you don't have the person in there.
I don't lock my phone, so I just start typing a name and when it's highlighted I hit send. I'm sure the iphone has some sort of speedial capability.
i just feel uncomfortable carrying around something so expensive everywhere with me.
the fact that one whole side of it is a glass screen makes it more vulnerable.
i would absolutely break it.
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no but I'm sure they'll have some perfectly good ones for you to buy at 3 dollars a pop
Just trying to find out why me being suitably unimpressed by the iPhone having msn results in me being a big silly
oh wait I did not talk to the Apple VP no I did not sir!
yeah, that's something I don't understand either.
Completely fucking mystifying.
Like the lack of MMS ability.
And a hundred other quirks.
Once again, fuck early adoption.
Like a year down the road see Motorola release a phone for 1/3 the cost of the iPhone, but works on all carriers, has a badass screen, tons of memory, and will wash dishes and bake pies.
That would be pretty sweet, guys.
yeah if you're a fucking square
You're a moron.
I guess instead of the constant insults you seem to post every time, you could enlighten the morons on what is so important/special.
If you want, ya know whatever, this is SE++ not "We give a rats ass++"
Even if you don't go through "proper charging procedures" your battery should easily last long enough.
Yeah, labels are nice.
Here's another one, you're a moron too.
It's like here's a thread about the iPhone. I was just on msn with my friend who was testing web messenger on it, happened to pass it to the VP who told me "hey bud, sup".
To me I think that's pretty neat news.
You don't think so that's fine, I can deal with that.
If you don't think it's valid considering no other web based browser on a phone, which in the past has made claims that it can do x, when it can't and you can climb on some tarded down version on your little wap browser, I kind of think you're talking out of you ass to put in your usual 2 cents.
That's mine.
reach arounds during butt sex
Check out the New York Times' review amongst many.
I'll be playing with it next week. Shoot me a PM and I'll let you know.
Can you sum it up in a concise list in one post?
My retarded little WAP browser?
Um, no, I have PIE (which does suck for more advanced web based systems like Youtube, etc) and I have Opera. Not Opera Mini, but the full Opera made for Smartphones that renders full websites just like the iPhone claims to do.
I also have Octro Chat which does AIM/MSN/Yahoo/Google Talk/Skype, and more all in one app.
So yeah, whats your point?
Web Messenger programs have been available on every phone, the problem is that they rarely run in the background reliably. My Octro Chat can stay on 24/7 and not interupt my use of my phone.
Also, I found out I can get a NES emulator on my BB!
Yeah the emulators are fun to have. Also, not sure if they have this for BB, but you can get a Java emulator as well that lets you play all the games that you would play on non-smartphone/blackberry devices.
I know that isn't the coolest thing ever, but there are some pretty good games and apps out there.
Oh god iReach! Apple should jump on this thing right away. The market is a growing one!
Sure, I was looking for more some user-comments instead of a list of features anyways.
My point was simply that the web browser on the iPhone was able to pull up a site and log into a program that I haven't seen done on other smart phones before and I thought it was neat.
That's it.
I didn't list off the myriad other uses, potential applications and throw down an e-peen the size of my thigh onto the table. I just made a passing comment.
Can Opera do this? I don't know.
By the way, if you're transmitting data, you can't do voice, unless you're using an alternate connectivity method such as WiFi.
You don't know how many people I've talked to that bought a product that had claimed X and when it came time to deliver, it didn't do it.
That may have been true years ago, or with GSM, or whatever. But with EVDO you can still receive voice while using Data. I think EDGE has this ability as well.
Also, yes you can log into a messanger app through most phones web browsers. In fact on any Sprint phone it comes with the links to Yahoo, MSN, and AIM that you navigate and log into through the built in WAP browser and it works quite well, the only problem being when you close the browser it logs you off.
But for Smartphones, no, this has been around for years. That is all I am saying, I just was against you calling people morons without giving a reason as to why they were. That shit is annoying.
The honest truth is, the iPhone offer nothing new or revolutionary beyond the way you interact with it (touchscreen/multi touch).
That does not give it a right to a $600 price tag.
Therefor, overpriced.
If I am missing something please let me know.
EDGE does not, or at least I get an error if I try and use a browser during a voice call when I'm using EDGE. I actually haven't tried it with 3G, so I can't speak to that.
I think the memory is pretty great for a phone, but not for a media player.
"Sweet guys! I just loaded 200 songs and 4 movies on my iPhone!"
"So... then what?"
"Well then I can connect it to my computer and load some others!"
No thanks, I will stick to my iPod, I would have rather Apple made a badass looking phone with 1-2gigs of built in memory plus an expansion slot for some cheap $10 2 gig SD cards and had it cost $300.
But NOOOOOOOO
Giving you what you don't need and taking away what you would use is Apple's job 1 lately it seems like.
"Hey guys we just designed the new Macbook Pro, it has a faster processor and more memory and a bigger hard drive than anything else, looks amazing and has great reliability!"
"Sweet, how about the video card"
"*muffle muffle* 8600 *muffle muffle*"
"Oh..."
Ok 3G might, I know EVDO does as I said, but if you are in a non-EVDO area (standard 1x) then from what I have read you can't do data and voice at the same time.
Thankfully, I have not gone to many places that are not EVDO.
but i guess it'd be nice to have 3g or whatever
Sprint's data network is much better.
I leave 3G off more of the time since it drains my phone's battery so fast. If I need to do somethign more than just light browsing I'll turn it on, but otherwise I stick to EDGE. It's really slow, but works in a pinch.
it's going to be infuriating for iphone users.
At my work and that we don't have a very good Wifi connection.
See, part of the iPhone's thing is that its great for stuff like e-mail, well, if you get an e-mail with an attachment, then you are looking at a long download, and if the voice is not usable during that download as was pointed out, then you could be missing calls waiting for an e-mail to finish.
If I was at home or school where I do have Wifi, well then I just use my laptop so I would not need the iPhone anyway.
I guess the iPhone may work for some people, but I am just not seeing who that is yet. I guess I should reserve judgement until its actually been out for awhile.
This depends on how email works on it, which I admit not to knowing much about it.
One of the reasons I got the blackjack is that i could use it with my exchange server at home and use push email. It works jsut like a blackberry, and works great over edge. I receive message headers as they arrive, along with the first however many bytes of a message. If I want to download the attachment I can (usually switching to 3G first), but it doesn't do it automatically.
Yeah thats true, my Q can do headers and message stubs as well I just don't use it so I wasn't thinking about it.
But the reviews say the way the iPhone works as far as e-mail and text messaging is really well done.
They were not too happy about making phone calls though. I guess its like 6+ steps. That is one thing I love about my Q, you just start typing a persons name or phone number from about anywhere and names come up.
I am sure a Blackberry is the same way.
I guess the iPhone though is like:
Unlock the phone
Press the Homescreen Button
Open the Address Book
Start the on-screen Keyboard
Type the name
Send
Instead of mine which is like:
Unlock
Type
Send
or just Unlock and hold down the number 2 or 3 or whatever for speed-dial.
I don't lock my phone, so I just start typing a name and when it's highlighted I hit send. I'm sure the iphone has some sort of speedial capability.
the fact that one whole side of it is a glass screen makes it more vulnerable.
i would absolutely break it.