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Democratic Debates: Round 4 (The Youtube Debate)

ElkiElki get busyModerator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
edited July 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
Location: The Citadel, Charleston, South Carolina

Network: CNN

Time: 7 PM ET / 8 C

Candidates:


Christopher J. Dodd
Hillary Rodham Clinton
John Edwards
Bill Richardson
Joseph R. Biden Jr
Dennis J. Kucinich
Mike Gravel
Barack Obama


Moderator: Anderson Cooper

Webstream: Youtube?



This field can't get thinner fast enough.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    oh shit, those are tonight?

    any news on what questions might be asked tonight, or is it entirely youtube?

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Why'd you put Obama last in the list? You some kind of goddamn racialist?

    You make me sick.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Elkamil wrote: »
    This field can't get thinner fast enough.

    I don't know, having a big primary field keeps things interesting longer.

    Remember how boring it was in 2004 when the frontloaded primaries more or less coronated Kerry? There were like four months of dead time when the general election hadn't really started but everyone knew Kerry was the nominee. That sucked.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't remember that at all.

    I do remember that there was literally no opposition to Dubya in the Republican primaries.

    Also, was this last night, or is it tonight?

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.

    Personally, I'm hoping for a question about hunger in America and, indirectly, what the candidates are willing to do about the poverty level in the United States. If this really is the greatest country on Earth, then we shouldn't have people choosing between medication and meals.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Has anybody here watched a significant amount of the YouTube questions and picked likely "winners"?

    I got bored last night after about 30 (out of 2989) of them.

    The questions.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.

    The cynic in me just sees this as the editors/moderator willfully hiding their own bias through a false attempt at a vox populi forum as well as an exemption from their own requirements of asking hard hitting and in depth questions of the candidates by punting their responsibilities to 'the people' who are likely to only scratch the surface of an issue with their questions.

    Should be interesting.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't remember that at all.

    I do remember that there was literally no opposition to Dubya in the Republican primaries.

    Sitting presidents don't often have primary challengers.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.

    I think its an interesting idea but I am a bit skeptical about the selection process. From what I have seen in the CNN previews most of the questions they highlighted, excluding joke questions, are questions I would expect to be asked at a debate anyway.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'll probably get the Cliff Notes version of this debate, much like the last three, via message boards and places like slate. I find myself more interested in the debates when the candidates get cut to a more manageable level. I would, though, like to state that this thread could have a much better name. Democratic Debate 4: The Youtubening would be a start.

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  • RedShellRedShell Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The question of what CNN really is at this point (re: Sanjay Gupta/Wolf Blitzer vs. Michael Moore, Some Handsome Anchor Dude vs. Cindy Sheehan) is an interesting question, but as far as I'm concerned, it represents something even more foul than Fox News.

    They represent The Establishment, I guess. An establishment that I think has horribly failed us, as far as news gathering is concerned. I 100% guarantee that this youtube debate is going to be a failure: debate moderators have been picking from mailed in questions for decades now. Adding a video component is a gimmick that gives the impression of a more democratic setup without actually delivering.

    Sorry. Hate CNN. Hate hate hate. Fail.

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hmm. Looks like I'll have to miss this one, as I already have things scheduled. Oh well.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I think the reasoning is the questions will have a greater impact because they are actually seeing the person who is asking it.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    These are still hand picked questions, right? Some one looked at all the entries and decided which get to be asked?

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yea, I think they got something like 2000 questions and are picking around 50 of them.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    kaz67 wrote: »
    I think the reasoning is the questions will have a greater impact because they are actually seeing the person who is asking it.

    Very much so, and I would say that it has a good bit of merit. I just don't expect to see any difficult questions to come out of the pool of entries. With a field this wide they really don't need to be answering any 'aw shucks, just how much do you love puppies?' type questions, and from the clips that I've seen it looks like there will be a lot of 'I'm worried about terr'ists, what are you going to do about it' or equally broad questions that can be answered with a boilerplate. I can't complain too much since I didn't submit anything to even be rejected, but it just looks like CNN is trying to do a ploy for ratings rather than trying to hold candidates feet to the fire, but who knows, maybe it will turn out well and have some interesting debate as a result.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    kaz67 wrote: »
    I think the reasoning is the questions will have a greater impact because they are actually seeing the person who is asking it.

    But even then, it's a recording of the person asking. It's one thing to have Jesse Ventura ask you "Who the fuck do you think you are?" vs. a clip of him asking the same question. Also, WTF is with the pasty star faced guy?

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Question is worthless without pics or link!

    I kind of wish that they culled some of the ones that aren't serious and just randomly chose which ones to show once the debate starts.

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  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Shinto wrote: »
    Elkamil wrote: »
    This field can't get thinner fast enough.

    I don't know, having a big primary field keeps things interesting longer.

    Remember how boring it was in 2004 when the frontloaded primaries more or less coronated Kerry? There were like four months of dead time when the general election hadn't really started but everyone knew Kerry was the nominee. That sucked.

    Those are still going to happen though, its inevitable after Iowa, New Hampshire and SC that there will be a frontrunner.

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    As per D&D tradition, I look forward to watching and simul-posting in this thread with the rest of ye.

    My money is on Mike Gravel having a poignant moment or two, intermixed with his spanish inquisition style zealotry.

    Also, Obama will punch Hillary in the baby maker, Edwards will reveal he is, in fact, a flying squirrel, and Biden will make out with Kunich's hot British wife. Tonight, on Pay-Per-View!

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    Question is worthless without pics or link!

    I kind of wish that they culled some of the ones that aren't serious and just randomly chose which ones to show once the debate starts.

    Stupid work filters! Watch the commercial they've been running on CNN. You'll see him. The guy has a star tattooed on his face and a few face piercings. I swear he sticks out his tounge too, but I may have imagined that horror rather than actually seen it. If the guy had a legitimate question, I'll be so very surprised. It appeared his only purpose was "shock and awe'. And much like the original shock and awe, he fails miserabley.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    30 minutes.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I wish they wouldn't spend so much time talking about how "revolutionary" this is and just get to the questions.

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The live stream on the website sucks. Anybody else having issues with it?

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Questions are decent so far, but the true test is if Andy Cooper can keep them on question, and off talking points.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    <3 Biden.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    LiveStrong bracelet?

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Edwards isn't answering the question. Tut tut.

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ugh, so I guess Edwards is not answering the questions tonight.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Elkamil wrote: »
    LiveStrong bracelet?

    Glad someone else noticed that.

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  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    tachyon wrote: »
    Ugh, so I guess Edwards is not answering the questions tonight.
    Heh, Cooper just poked fun at him for that.

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    kaz67 wrote: »
    Elkamil wrote: »
    LiveStrong bracelet?

    Glad someone else noticed that.


    His wife does have cancer.:P

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  • Clutch414Clutch414 Dodge Swinger.... ...WHENEVER IT FEELS RIGHT!!!Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I know that he has a ice cube's chance in hell of winning the Democratic nomination, but I think Chris Dodd is growing on me.

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hillary: I couldn't run as anything but a female.

    That ain't what I heard.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I missed the first half hour because I totally forgot. What'd I miss?

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lots of Dodd. Lots of kissing ass. Mike Gravel going for the throat. The questions have been pretty decent so far though.

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    I missed the first half hour because I totally forgot. What'd I miss?

    Obama is black, Clinton is a woman, and so far the questions are good, but the answers are 50/50

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nothing big so far though questions have been decent.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I expected the questions to be good. Remember last time we went to the Internet; the online voters went for the throat. Repeatedly.

    EDIT: When the person who asks a question gets thunderous applause, that is a strong hint to you as a candidate as to how you'd damn well better answer.

    And then Anderson brings him out of the audience to tell Edwards he's full of shit. Oh wow.

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    OH SNAP REVEREND!!!!

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