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I don't know, having a big primary field keeps things interesting longer.
Remember how boring it was in 2004 when the frontloaded primaries more or less coronated Kerry? There were like four months of dead time when the general election hadn't really started but everyone knew Kerry was the nominee. That sucked.
Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.
Personally, I'm hoping for a question about hunger in America and, indirectly, what the candidates are willing to do about the poverty level in the United States. If this really is the greatest country on Earth, then we shouldn't have people choosing between medication and meals.
Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.
The cynic in me just sees this as the editors/moderator willfully hiding their own bias through a false attempt at a vox populi forum as well as an exemption from their own requirements of asking hard hitting and in depth questions of the candidates by punting their responsibilities to 'the people' who are likely to only scratch the surface of an issue with their questions.
Is anyone else really excited about the format? It should lead to a lot of interesting answers, if nothing else.
I think its an interesting idea but I am a bit skeptical about the selection process. From what I have seen in the CNN previews most of the questions they highlighted, excluding joke questions, are questions I would expect to be asked at a debate anyway.
I'll probably get the Cliff Notes version of this debate, much like the last three, via message boards and places like slate. I find myself more interested in the debates when the candidates get cut to a more manageable level. I would, though, like to state that this thread could have a much better name. Democratic Debate 4: The Youtubening would be a start.
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The question of what CNN really is at this point (re: Sanjay Gupta/Wolf Blitzer vs. Michael Moore, Some Handsome Anchor Dude vs. Cindy Sheehan) is an interesting question, but as far as I'm concerned, it represents something even more foul than Fox News.
They represent The Establishment, I guess. An establishment that I think has horribly failed us, as far as news gathering is concerned. I 100% guarantee that this youtube debate is going to be a failure: debate moderators have been picking from mailed in questions for decades now. Adding a video component is a gimmick that gives the impression of a more democratic setup without actually delivering.
Sorry. Hate CNN. Hate hate hate. Fail.
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I think the reasoning is the questions will have a greater impact because they are actually seeing the person who is asking it.
Very much so, and I would say that it has a good bit of merit. I just don't expect to see any difficult questions to come out of the pool of entries. With a field this wide they really don't need to be answering any 'aw shucks, just how much do you love puppies?' type questions, and from the clips that I've seen it looks like there will be a lot of 'I'm worried about terr'ists, what are you going to do about it' or equally broad questions that can be answered with a boilerplate. I can't complain too much since I didn't submit anything to even be rejected, but it just looks like CNN is trying to do a ploy for ratings rather than trying to hold candidates feet to the fire, but who knows, maybe it will turn out well and have some interesting debate as a result.
I think the reasoning is the questions will have a greater impact because they are actually seeing the person who is asking it.
But even then, it's a recording of the person asking. It's one thing to have Jesse Ventura ask you "Who the fuck do you think you are?" vs. a clip of him asking the same question. Also, WTF is with the pasty star faced guy?
I don't know, having a big primary field keeps things interesting longer.
Remember how boring it was in 2004 when the frontloaded primaries more or less coronated Kerry? There were like four months of dead time when the general election hadn't really started but everyone knew Kerry was the nominee. That sucked.
Those are still going to happen though, its inevitable after Iowa, New Hampshire and SC that there will be a frontrunner.
As per D&D tradition, I look forward to watching and simul-posting in this thread with the rest of ye.
My money is on Mike Gravel having a poignant moment or two, intermixed with his spanish inquisition style zealotry.
Also, Obama will punch Hillary in the baby maker, Edwards will reveal he is, in fact, a flying squirrel, and Biden will make out with Kunich's hot British wife. Tonight, on Pay-Per-View!
I kind of wish that they culled some of the ones that aren't serious and just randomly chose which ones to show once the debate starts.
Stupid work filters! Watch the commercial they've been running on CNN. You'll see him. The guy has a star tattooed on his face and a few face piercings. I swear he sticks out his tounge too, but I may have imagined that horror rather than actually seen it. If the guy had a legitimate question, I'll be so very surprised. It appeared his only purpose was "shock and awe'. And much like the original shock and awe, he fails miserabley.
Nothing big so far though questions have been decent.
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I expected the questions to be good. Remember last time we went to the Internet; the online voters went for the throat. Repeatedly.
EDIT: When the person who asks a question gets thunderous applause, that is a strong hint to you as a candidate as to how you'd damn well better answer.
And then Anderson brings him out of the audience to tell Edwards he's full of shit. Oh wow.
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any news on what questions might be asked tonight, or is it entirely youtube?
You make me sick.
I don't know, having a big primary field keeps things interesting longer.
Remember how boring it was in 2004 when the frontloaded primaries more or less coronated Kerry? There were like four months of dead time when the general election hadn't really started but everyone knew Kerry was the nominee. That sucked.
I do remember that there was literally no opposition to Dubya in the Republican primaries.
Also, was this last night, or is it tonight?
Personally, I'm hoping for a question about hunger in America and, indirectly, what the candidates are willing to do about the poverty level in the United States. If this really is the greatest country on Earth, then we shouldn't have people choosing between medication and meals.
I got bored last night after about 30 (out of 2989) of them.
The questions.
The cynic in me just sees this as the editors/moderator willfully hiding their own bias through a false attempt at a vox populi forum as well as an exemption from their own requirements of asking hard hitting and in depth questions of the candidates by punting their responsibilities to 'the people' who are likely to only scratch the surface of an issue with their questions.
Should be interesting.
Sitting presidents don't often have primary challengers.
I think its an interesting idea but I am a bit skeptical about the selection process. From what I have seen in the CNN previews most of the questions they highlighted, excluding joke questions, are questions I would expect to be asked at a debate anyway.
They represent The Establishment, I guess. An establishment that I think has horribly failed us, as far as news gathering is concerned. I 100% guarantee that this youtube debate is going to be a failure: debate moderators have been picking from mailed in questions for decades now. Adding a video component is a gimmick that gives the impression of a more democratic setup without actually delivering.
Sorry. Hate CNN. Hate hate hate. Fail.
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Very much so, and I would say that it has a good bit of merit. I just don't expect to see any difficult questions to come out of the pool of entries. With a field this wide they really don't need to be answering any 'aw shucks, just how much do you love puppies?' type questions, and from the clips that I've seen it looks like there will be a lot of 'I'm worried about terr'ists, what are you going to do about it' or equally broad questions that can be answered with a boilerplate. I can't complain too much since I didn't submit anything to even be rejected, but it just looks like CNN is trying to do a ploy for ratings rather than trying to hold candidates feet to the fire, but who knows, maybe it will turn out well and have some interesting debate as a result.
But even then, it's a recording of the person asking. It's one thing to have Jesse Ventura ask you "Who the fuck do you think you are?" vs. a clip of him asking the same question. Also, WTF is with the pasty star faced guy?
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I kind of wish that they culled some of the ones that aren't serious and just randomly chose which ones to show once the debate starts.
Those are still going to happen though, its inevitable after Iowa, New Hampshire and SC that there will be a frontrunner.
My money is on Mike Gravel having a poignant moment or two, intermixed with his spanish inquisition style zealotry.
Also, Obama will punch Hillary in the baby maker, Edwards will reveal he is, in fact, a flying squirrel, and Biden will make out with Kunich's hot British wife. Tonight, on Pay-Per-View!
Stupid work filters! Watch the commercial they've been running on CNN. You'll see him. The guy has a star tattooed on his face and a few face piercings. I swear he sticks out his tounge too, but I may have imagined that horror rather than actually seen it. If the guy had a legitimate question, I'll be so very surprised. It appeared his only purpose was "shock and awe'. And much like the original shock and awe, he fails miserabley.
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Glad someone else noticed that.
His wife does have cancer.:P
That ain't what I heard.
Obama is black, Clinton is a woman, and so far the questions are good, but the answers are 50/50
EDIT: When the person who asks a question gets thunderous applause, that is a strong hint to you as a candidate as to how you'd damn well better answer.
And then Anderson brings him out of the audience to tell Edwards he's full of shit. Oh wow.