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Democratic Debates: Round 4 (The Youtube Debate)

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't think an Arab nation has any choice but to take the President of the United States of America seriously.

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  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    Oh, OUCH. "Hillary, Arab nations don't take women seriously. Why would you be any different?" It is a valid question; look how much Condi's gotten done.
    I'm not sure how much that has to do with her being a woman, and more with her being from the US.
    How much did Colin Powell get done?

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  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Pants Man wrote: »
    kaz67 wrote: »
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    You know, I've floated an idea for these debates recently, got some good feedback.

    Never mind this time limit per question thing. Never mind trying manually to give everyone equal time; no matter your intentions, the front-runners are going to wind up grabbing more spotlight. Instead, here's what you do:

    *Everyone can give an answer of any length on any question.
    *However, everyone has their microphone connected to a clock, visible to all. Displayed on the front of their podium and everything. When the candidate talks, the clock counts down. When they stop talking, the clock stops.
    *All candidates are given the same time limit.
    *When a particular candidate's clock hits zero, the INSTANT it hits zero, the candidate's mike is cut for the rest of the debate. You spend the rest of the night standing there in silence while everyone else is free to take pot shots at you without you being able to respond. Long story short, budget your time wisely or else.

    I like that idea.

    yeah that's pretty legit. i think the candidates would need to know how many questions there were gonna be, and there's the risk they could go off course and just pontificate for 15 minutes, but i like it
    Gravel is the key for this method, because if you run out of time before him he will rip you apart.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    God, no one listened to Biden at all about withdrawal. and he's totally right. you can't just "take out" 150,000 troops of an area

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Picardathon wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    kaz67 wrote: »
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    You know, I've floated an idea for these debates recently, got some good feedback.

    Never mind this time limit per question thing. Never mind trying manually to give everyone equal time; no matter your intentions, the front-runners are going to wind up grabbing more spotlight. Instead, here's what you do:

    *Everyone can give an answer of any length on any question.
    *However, everyone has their microphone connected to a clock, visible to all. Displayed on the front of their podium and everything. When the candidate talks, the clock counts down. When they stop talking, the clock stops.
    *All candidates are given the same time limit.
    *When a particular candidate's clock hits zero, the INSTANT it hits zero, the candidate's mike is cut for the rest of the debate. You spend the rest of the night standing there in silence while everyone else is free to take pot shots at you without you being able to respond. Long story short, budget your time wisely or else.

    I like that idea.

    yeah that's pretty legit. i think the candidates would need to know how many questions there were gonna be, and there's the risk they could go off course and just pontificate for 15 minutes, but i like it
    Gravel is the key for this method, because if you run out of time before him he will rip you apart.
    Any I've-got-nothing-to-lose candidate would work in that regard. Ron Paul would serve the same purpose for the Republicans.

    And they could talk for 15 minutes, sure, but then that's really all they're going to get to do all night. Is that a risk you want to take?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Pants Man wrote: »
    God, no one listened to Biden at all about withdrawal. and he's totally right. you can't just "take out" 150,000 troops of an area
    Nobody ever listens to Biden. He's too smart to be listened to.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't see how they could continue to ignore him at this point.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    God, no one listened to Biden at all about withdrawal. and he's totally right. you can't just "take out" 150,000 troops of an area
    Nobody ever listens to Biden. He's too smart to be listened to.

    HA thank you hillary.

    and that's something i never thought i'd say

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Aw, man. They show a Gravel Youtube ad and it's NOT him staring at the camera and tossing a rock in the river. You suck, CNN.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    You know, I've floated an idea for these debates recently, got some good feedback.

    Never mind this time limit per question thing. Never mind trying manually to give everyone equal time; no matter your intentions, the front-runners are going to wind up grabbing more spotlight. Instead, here's what you do:

    *Everyone can give an answer of any length on any question.
    *However, everyone has their microphone connected to a clock, visible to all. Displayed on the front of their podium and everything. When the candidate talks, the clock counts down. When they stop talking, the clock stops.
    *All candidates are given the same time limit.
    *When a particular candidate's clock hits zero, the INSTANT it hits zero, the candidate's mike is cut for the rest of the debate. You spend the rest of the night standing there in silence while everyone else is free to take pot shots at you without you being able to respond. Long story short, budget your time wisely or else.

    Don't like it. Lends itself to soundbytes and one-liners, and discourages complex but legitimate answers. It also feeds into the public's expectation that there really are easy (or at least snappy) answers to pretty much any question.

    I'm not seeing this debate right now, but I prefer to just have a moderator who's good at spotting windbags and saying "hey, so are you going to answer that question or not?"

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I don't think an Arab nation has any choice but to take the President of the United States of America seriously.
    "Oh what's that, you don't recognize me as the leader of the United States? Well I don't recognize you as the leader of a country that hasn't been nuked into oblivion."

    *Angrily presses The Big Red Button*

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited July 2007
    Does anyone else want to sucker punch Anderson Cooper?

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I don't think an Arab nation has any choice but to take the President of the United States of America seriously.

    Seriously. And fucking Pakistan had a female PM.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Cooper seems to be doing his job pretty well, I thought. He could put his foot down a little harder I guess.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Rygar wrote: »
    Does anyone else want to sucker punch Anderson Cooper?

    I think he has done alright so far. Seems to be keeping them in line for the most part.

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Oh snap! Gravel just Kelly Ripa'd the whole stage.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    Still pouting hard, but that was funny.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Gravel: HAY GUYS YOU NEVER ASK ME ANYTHING SO I'M GONNA SPEND ALL MY TIME COMPLAINING THAT YOU NEVER ASK ME ANYTHING

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    So folks, we're over an hour in.

    Impressions?
    Here are some of mine:

    Kucinich:

    I understand what he is trying to do with the whole text msg thing, but it's getting annoying, and detracting from his message.

    Clinton:

    For some reason she's coming off as Martha Stewart like. Superficial I know.

    Obama:

    Taking to long to get to the answer, very Bill Clintonish, which may be good or bad.

    Gavel:

    Nothing to lose, out there, but hell.

    Edwards:

    Looks like the Reverend's question threw him, he's not being memorable, no ovations for him.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Gravel always reminds me of Colonel Tigh minus the eyepatch.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Randy McGirr of Trona, CA must die. No, CNN, the question was not if you'd scrap No Child Left Behind. The question was WAAAAAAAGGGHHHH I'M EXTREME YAAAAAAH!

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited July 2007
    kaz67 wrote: »
    Rygar wrote: »
    Does anyone else want to sucker punch Anderson Cooper?

    I think he has done alright so far. Seems to be keeping them in line for the most part.

    Don't stop them in a middle of a question and say "LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THAT KTHX" like he did with Dodd when he brought up Darfur. He could be trying to make a fucking point by allusion or metaphor, you don't know. Shut up and then cut him off when he is out of time. He didn't dare do that with Obama when he brought up African Americans to answer the female draft question. Is Anderson Cooper just biased against the second and third tier candidates, or is he just retardedly self-centered.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    NCLB doesn't emphasize teacher training?!? what in the hell


    i guess i don't need that master's now then

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    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Where the hell are you guys watching this?

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Where the hell are you guys watching this?

    uh, on CNN on tv

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Where the hell are you guys watching this?

    CNN

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Here's the link to the online stream.

    Edit: Under 'Live Video'.

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Where the hell are you guys watching this?

    Just watching it on CNN.


    I think they are kind of missing the point on this question. Think the main issue is whether they think there is some kind of gap between public and private school.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    QuarterMaster wrote: »
    Here's the link to the online stream.

    Edit: Under 'Live Video'.

    Thank you. Somehow I could not find that link to save my life.

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I like this question.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    OMG what the hell is this?

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Elkamil wrote: »
    OMG what the hell is this?

    Comic relief?

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    hahahahah!

    'Sat hurt y'all's feelings?

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  • QuarterMasterQuarterMaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Bahahaha, Monty Python reference.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    Thank you, Biden.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    what the hell is going on here

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    what text message thing?

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Variable wrote: »
    what text message thing?

    Krus... was pushing some txt message 'PEACE' or whatever.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    "How many people took a chartered jet here tonight?"

    The big three go right up, half the others are like, 'do... do I have to raise my hand too?'

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  • kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Awesome, was hoping for a nuclear power question.

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