Death visited me this morning. We are playing chess....

naporeon

It looks like Ingmar Bergman, one of the greatest filmmakers of the last 60 years, has finally lost his game of chess.

His prolific body of work, often involving sexuality and love interwoven with death or failure, are remarkable for many things. Unique among many filmmakers of his general type, his work was not a jumble of fantastical, highly metaphorical imagery...his stories are the stories they appear to be on their face.

RIP Ingmar Bergman
1918 - 2007

Weaver

never heard of him

Orikaeshigitae

dammit, this sucks

i haven't seen the seventh seal yet, but i've wanted to badly for years

just can't find it anywhere

naporeon

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

dammit, this sucks

i haven't seen the seventh seal yet, but i've wanted to badly for years

just can't find it anywhere

I would suggest just buying it on Amazon or something.

It's not his best film, but it is still completely fantastic, and is a great introduction to his work.

Balefuego

I heard about this on the way to work this morning, it's a shame.

Butters

Weaver wrote: »

never heard of him

Me neither. Looking at his body of work on IMDB, I have never heard of any of his movies either.

CG Faggotry

I should have heard of him. I will now solve this omission.

Orikaeshigitae

he's a famous artsy director

his stuff is right up my alley but i have managed to not see any of it

Balefuego

CasinoGhost wrote: »

I should have heard of him. I will now solve this omission.

This was the appropriate answer

Wise_a

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

naporeon

Butters wrote: »

Weaver wrote: »

never heard of him

Me neither. Looking at his body of work on IMDB, I have never heard of any of his movies either.

How people could have failed to hear of Wild Strawberries, The Virgin Spring, or Through a Glass Darkly is a mystery to me.

But having never heard of The Seventh Seal is truly astonishing.

Wise_a

Tube and Orik are in loooooooooove in the other thread

lostwords

Hmm, I was eyeballing Wild Strawberries Criterion Edition at Borders yesterday. I might go back and pick it up today. Seemed like a right interesting movie. Any other movies by him that need watching?

Orikaeshigitae

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

lostwords

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

How bout David Mamet?

Orikaeshigitae

sure

naporeon

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

Yes, because God knows, the only reason people ever like anything of artistic worth is when they are doing so in order to feel more important than other people.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with, you know, the superlatively high quality of the work itself.

I mean, for fuck's sake, Bergman's work is--as I mentioned in the OP--extremely literal, and not typical inaccessible art-house cinema.

CG Faggotry

Speed The Plow was just annoying.

Butters

naporeon wrote: »

Butters wrote: »

Weaver wrote: »

never heard of him

Me neither. Looking at his body of work on IMDB, I have never heard of any of his movies either.

How people could have failed to hear of Wild Strawberries, The Virgin Spring, or Through a Glass Darkly is a mystery to me.

But having never heard of The Seventh Seal is truly astonishing.

Independent and foreign films were never my thing. I may have "heard" of The Seventh Seal but I know absolutely nothing of it.

Penguin Incarnate

Weaver wrote: »

never heard of him

That doesn't surprise me...

Wise_a

naporeon wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

Yes, because God knows, the only reason people ever like anything of artistic worth is when they are doing so in order to feel more important than other people.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with, you know, the superlatively high quality of the work itself.

I mean, for fuck's sake, Bergman's work is--as I mentioned in the OP--extremely literal, and not typical inaccessible art-house cinema.

No, I wasn't making fun of you for liking him.

Thats all well and good.

I'm just making fun of people that say obscure things to sound cultured.

It was a jab at humanity in general.

Balefuego

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

Are you hating on Lynch?

If so we are going to have a problem

He's not perfect by any stretch but Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr are two of my favorite flicks.

Twin Peaks also one of the best tv series ever.

Lost Highway was a mess though, I will grant you that.

Monkeybomb

So if I were to watch a film that would define him, it should be this Seventh Seal business or something?

Orikaeshigitae

yeah

basically everyone loves bergman

he's acknowledged as one of the greatest writers and directors of the past sixty years by everybody

if you're into learning about any aspect of film production, i'd be amazed if you haven't heard of him

Penguin Incarnate

Anyone that has ever seen the second Bill and Ted movie has no excuse not to know what The Seventh Seal is.

Orikaeshigitae

Balefuego wrote: »

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

Are you hating on Lynch?

If so we are going to have a problem

He's not perfect by any stretch but Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr are two of my favorite flicks.

Twin Peaks also one of the best tv series ever.

Lost Highway was a mess though, I will grant you that.

no, i liked mulholland drive

but if you want to sound elitist, unprovoked yelling about how much you love david lynch is a good start

Monkeybomb

Well, I'm not. Don't judge me with those judging eyes of yours.

naporeon

Monkeybomb wrote: »

So if I were to watch a film that would define him, it should be this Seventh Seal business or something?

Yeah.

It's highly representative of his favorite themes, and his work in general.

Balefuego

I wasn't yelling Orik.

I forgive you though.

We're cool

Orikaeshigitae

Balefuego wrote: »

I wasn't yelling Orik.

I forgive you though.

We're cool

oh, no, i wasn't saying that you were yelling

but if you're, like, making new friends and you want to sound smart about movies without actually knowing anything about them

talking about david lynch is probable

(not that he's not a talented director, just that he's an easy target for dudes who do not know stuff)

Penguin Incarnate

The Seventh Seal is one of the best films I've ever seen. Even though it's a foreign film, in black and white, with no car chases, explosions or sex scenes, it still manages to be incredibly interesting from start to finish.

Balefuego

I can agree with that.

Balefuego

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Balefuego wrote: »

I wasn't yelling Orik.

I forgive you though.

We're cool

oh, no, i wasn't saying that you were yelling

but if you're, like, making new friends and you want to sound smart about movies without actually knowing anything about them

talking about david lynch is probable

(not that he's not a talented director, just that he's an easy target for dudes who do not know stuff)

Yeah I know what you mean, but this very fact can cause an anti-elitest backlash where people dismiss stuff by certain creators just because some of the people who say they like it are ultra vocal abrasive douchebags who like to tell people they understand it better than anyone else.

PTA has this problem too, which is a shame because I fucking adore everything he does.

Dead Legend

Balefuego wrote: »

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

Are you hating on Lynch?

If so we are going to have a problem

He's not perfect by any stretch but Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr are two of my favorite flicks.

Twin Peaks also one of the best tv series ever.

Lost Highway was a mess though, I will grant you that.

blue velvet is pretty fucked

it's one of my dad's favorite films

ShimSham

Bill Walsh died too

Balefuego

WHAT?

ShimSham

This morning

PiptheFair

woah what

walsh and bergman?

shit...

ShimSham

Someone should draw or paint a picture of Jesus giving Walsh a Gatorade shower and laughing.

A friend from another board said Jesus would do that.

I'm artistically challenged though.

Neli

I'm Swedish, and I still haven't seen any of his movies. For shame.

He's a national hero over here.

been running documentaries and shit all day

denihilist

Balefuego wrote: »

Orikaeshigitae wrote: »

Wise_a wrote: »

He's the kind of guy you say you like when you wanna appear elitist to other people who know about movies.

no, that's david lynch

Are you hating on Lynch?

If so we are going to have a problem

He's not perfect by any stretch but Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr are two of my favorite flicks.

Twin Peaks also one of the best tv series ever.

Lost Highway was a mess though, I will grant you that.

Man Lost Highway was awesome and without it, you never would've gotten Mulholland Drive as the structure of the films are incredibly similar.

And yeah, Mamet is way pretentious. I mean only art fags like Glengary Glenross or The Spanish Prisoner.