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Defcon undercover reporter with video goodness

GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
If people haven't heard around these parts yet NBC thought they'd do some fear piece on evil hackers and so forth.

Well, turns out trying to take on very intelligent people isn't everything it has cracked up to be.

It seems like nowadays reporters are more and more trying to do the more popular fear pieces than real journalism nowadays, such a shame. Where are the Woodward and Bernsteins?

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I laughed

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That is both terrifying and hilarious.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It will play in Peoria

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  • seabassseabass Doctor MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm waiting for Dateline to apologize. I have this feeling I'm going to be waiting a long time though.

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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I can't imagine what must have been going through her head when she decided she need to get the hell out of there.

    Probably fear that hundreds of techies were going to swarm her.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    I'm waiting for Dateline to apologize. I have this feeling I'm going to be waiting a long time though.

    Makes you wonder what NBC was thinking. The guys at DEFCON have a game called spot the fed. Why did NBC ever think they could get away with it?

    If Dateline does a show with their footage I suspect it will more than likely blow up in their faces. Taking on idiots is one thing, but taking on very intelligent people is likely to open you up to a world of humiliation.
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    Probably fear that hundreds of techies were going to swarm her.

    And ask her for a date.

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  • Re: nholderRe: nholder Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Oh god, that was great... I wonder how stupid she feels now?

    The part that damn near depressed me was she apparently turned down a press pass four times.

    "The numbers are down in the midwest, scare the ignorant and gain ratings!"

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    meh

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    I'm waiting for Dateline to apologize. I have this feeling I'm going to be waiting a long time though.

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Monoxide wrote: »
    seabass wrote: »
    I'm waiting for Dateline to apologize. I have this feeling I'm going to be waiting a long time though.

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    There's plenty of "Anonymous" responses to that Fox thing on Youtube. They just need to splice in voice clips with their footage and bingo.

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  • UnicronUnicron Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Interesting stuff. Would it really hurt the author to do the tiniest amount of proofreading though? I keep having to restructure the sentences in my head and thinking makes me sad :(

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    As a reporter, I just have this to say:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    That is all.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    At least the reporter had the common sense not to yell at the people filming her as she left. That would make for a big ol' slice of hypocrisy pie.

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    japan wrote: »
    At least the reporter had the common sense not to yell at the people filming her as she left. That would make for a big ol' slice of hypocrisy pie.

    Ahaha, yeah.

    "YOU GODDAMN VULTURES, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE HARASSING ME LIKE THIS?"

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  • seabassseabass Doctor MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    They recently had Chris Hansen do something about iPod thefts where they would leave iPods sitting out in the open and then track down the people that took them after they hooked it up to a computer.

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    They recently had Chris Hansen do something about iPod thefts where they would leave iPods sitting out in the open and then track down the people that took them after they hooked it up to a computer.

    really? that could've saved an hero :(

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  • IShallRiseAgainIShallRiseAgain Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    They recently had Chris Hansen do something about iPod thefts where they would leave iPods sitting out in the open and then track down the people that took them after they hooked it up to a computer.
    ??
    I really don't see anything wrong with that.

    The defcon story is awesome though.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    seabass wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    They recently had Chris Hansen do something about iPod thefts where they would leave iPods sitting out in the open and then track down the people that took them after they hooked it up to a computer.

    really? that could've saved an hero :(

    Yeah. They only recently discovered that Apple can track down where an iPod is plugged in and who it belongs to. Supposedly they're going to start implementing this as a kind of Lojack system now that all of this was made public

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    The whole idea was to get secret footage of hackers saying things they wouldn't tell a reporter. I guess she figured if she denied she was doing a story they'd, like, forget or something.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    seabass wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »

    I'm waiting for Dateline to air it with some spin on how she felt so threatened by this underground convention of degenerates that she had to run for her life while being followed and verbally abused.

    Maybe with some footage of exploding vans and 4chan memes spliced in, if they can get FOX LA's approval.

    This is more along the lines of what I fear, and sadly expect, will happen. And they've got plenty of material for doing it too. The crowd was jeering her pretty hard as she left the building. Now it isn't that she didn't deserve it, its just that 'bitch had it coming' doesn't hold up as well as it should in the court of public opinion. Especially when the other side is poorly understood and easily monsterized. Who knows though, maybe they'll finally catch some flack over their 'journalistic' tactics. These are the same asshats that do the "To catch a predator" sequence, right?
    Hopefully this doesn't change the way they do DEFCON admissions though. It would be a real shame if it did, as I hear that the speakers they get are on par with any ACM or IEEE topics conference, and its just a fraction of the price to get in, everybody wins.

    Why would she turn down the press pass? Why? I really don't understand.

    They recently had Chris Hansen do something about iPod thefts where they would leave iPods sitting out in the open and then track down the people that took them after they hooked it up to a computer.
    ??
    I really don't see anything wrong with that.

    The defcon story is awesome though.

    The thing about this was that only a few of them were actual thefts, where their marked iPods were sitting in cars and the such. The rest were abandoned in public places in various cities, so it seemed more of a way to try and make people into inhuman monsters.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hurray sensationalist journalism that's helping to destroy the country for a buck. Woo.

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  • FodderFodder Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This embarrasses me, I live in Kansas :(

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fodder wrote: »
    This embarrasses me, I live in Kansas :(

    its not too late to move

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    hah, see, with that iPod thing, my brother and i were walking through Oxford, and he suddenly stopped and went "hey, was that an iPod?", and sure enough, there was a Nano sat on the floor. So we picked it up and stood around the area, it was still on and playing, so the owner would've been nearby, just hadn't realised they'd lost it. After much waiting and walking, looking for anyone who might've been missing their mp3 player, we took it, and he handed it in to the police as soon as he could.The upshot? No-one claimed it, so we now have an iPod.
    I wonder how that would've looked on one of those shows..

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It wouldn't, because they wouldn't air it.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    we also elbowed a granny and flipped off a box of kittens, so i guess it evens out.

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    hah, see, with that iPod thing, my brother and i were walking through Oxford, and he suddenly stopped and went "hey, was that an iPod?", and sure enough, there was a Nano sat on the floor. So we picked it up and stood around the area, it was still on and playing, so the owner would've been nearby, just hadn't realised they'd lost it. After much waiting and walking, looking for anyone who might've been missing their mp3 player, we took it, and he handed it in to the police as soon as he could.The upshot? No-one claimed it, so we now have an iPod.
    I wonder how that would've looked on one of those shows..

    that's not interesting news.

    not unless you rape babies and steal people's gigahurtz

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    What the hell is a Defcon?

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Initially, when I first saw the thread title, I thought some crazy reporter delved into Introversion's game of DEFCON and somehow used the "lust to destroy the world" angle as a basis for a story.

    While that struck me as nuts, it didn't strike me as IMPROBABLE, which is a sad statement on the state of today's TV "journalism."

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    FireWeasel wrote: »
    Initially, when I first saw the thread title, I thought some crazy reporter delved into Introversion's game of DEFCON and somehow used the "lust to destroy the world" angle as a basis for a story.

    While that struck me as nuts, it didn't strike me as IMPROBABLE, which is a sad statement on the state of today's TV "journalism."

    I'm surprised that game didn't garner more infamy, being what it is.

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  • ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    hah, see, with that iPod thing, my brother and i were walking through Oxford, and he suddenly stopped and went "hey, was that an iPod?", and sure enough, there was a Nano sat on the floor. So we picked it up and stood around the area, it was still on and playing, so the owner would've been nearby, just hadn't realised they'd lost it. After much waiting and walking, looking for anyone who might've been missing their mp3 player, we took it, and he handed it in to the police as soon as he could.The upshot? No-one claimed it, so we now have an iPod.
    I wonder how that would've looked on one of those shows..

    But if you were on your way home and hooked it up there to see what music they had before taking it into the police station the day after, criminal.

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  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    FireWeasel wrote: »
    Initially, when I first saw the thread title, I thought some crazy reporter delved into Introversion's game of DEFCON and somehow used the "lust to destroy the world" angle as a basis for a story.

    While that struck me as nuts, it didn't strike me as IMPROBABLE, which is a sad statement on the state of today's TV "journalism."

    yeah..sadly i came into this thread expecting to see "olol computer game teaching people to nuke the world" too :|

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I think this should be a poll thread. Because I thought it'd be about the game as well.

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    so I read this news story where some korean soldier killed a bunch of his buddies.

    and they're blaming it on video games

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    so I read this news story where some korean soldier killed a bunch of his buddies.

    and they're blaming it on video games

    How was he supposed to know the admin didn't turn off TK in the options?

    "WHOAWHOA SORRY D00DZ, MY AIM SUCKS"

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    they say he couldn't differentiate reality from fantasy.

    even if this is true, which it isn't, its still their fault for not screening him out during the application process anyways

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    they say he couldn't differentiate reality from fantasy.

    even if this is true, which it isn't, its still their fault for not screening him out during the application process anyways

    From what I remember being told when I was back in the Army, military service in Korea is compulsory, but I could be very wrong.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    korodullin wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    they say he couldn't differentiate reality from fantasy.

    even if this is true, which it isn't, its still their fault for not screening him out during the application process anyways

    From what I remember being told when I was back in the Army, military service in Korea is compulsory, but I could be very wrong.

    You're not wrong.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    hah, see, with that iPod thing, my brother and i were walking through Oxford, and he suddenly stopped and went "hey, was that an iPod?", and sure enough, there was a Nano sat on the floor. So we picked it up and stood around the area, it was still on and playing, so the owner would've been nearby, just hadn't realised they'd lost it. After much waiting and walking, looking for anyone who might've been missing their mp3 player, we took it, and he handed it in to the police as soon as he could.The upshot? No-one claimed it, so we now have an iPod.
    I wonder how that would've looked on one of those shows..

    But if you were on your way home and hooked it up there to see what music they had before taking it into the police station the day after, criminal.

    heh... oops :-\

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