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This is mostly in regards to Japanese games, but it applies to some Western games, too. The main character(s) are godamn kids all the time. Anyone over the age of 25 is a grizzled old veteran, and any 10 year old can go around mangling monsters and grown men with relative ease. What gives with this? It's age discrimination!
Most of the games I play are at least rated T, many are M. Yet almost always we have kids. Nineteen seems to be a good average. Do game developers really think that I couldn't relate to grown people at age 16, and that I still can't at 18+? I'm for older characters in general, please, along with all the other things that need to change with games. Maybe it will help get people above the age of 19 playing the games. They do have a lot of disposable income, so I hear. Are people over 30 just too old to be out adventuring or killing slimes or whatever? Or are they above that sort of thing?
It's one of those "The Youth are the future!" kind of things, only instead of cleaning up environment that was fucked up by the older generation, they're killing demons.
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To be honest, as a kid I liked it when I would play a game where the main character was my age. I didn't play too many games as a kid, around age 10; but loved Zelda and loved it when playing as a young Link in OOT and MM. My brother played mostly Macho guy games and he bought the systems and the games, so when deciding which game to play, Mortal Kombat versus Zelda, I think it was pretty obvious and to me it was actually fun to have a young hero that wasn't some crazy thunder god guy who shocks his opponents until they explode.
Because they want the player base to be able to relate to the person they are playing as. The majority of gamers are under 25.
You might as well ask why the main characters of most kids cartoons are children.
JRPS and Japanese action or adventure games, yes. But I also know that I play games that kids don't like and/or can't play well and the characters are 12. And most of the people I know who play games are at least mid-twenties. But for myself, even when I was younger and played games I would be thinking "Where are the godamn adults? Why do they just sit on their asses while the 14 year old save the world?" There are also M games where the main characters are still in high school. Sure, M means 18+ around here, and I'm sure people younger than that are playing them, but still. I would never NOT play a game because the main character is an adult, but my suspension of disbelief is often royally manhandled when I'm forced to destroy packs of raging, blood-spattered demons with a 11 year old and a butter knife. Maybe it's just me.
Because they want the player base to be able to relate to the person they are playing as. The majority of gamers are under 25.
You might as well ask why the main characters of most kids cartoons are children.
JRPS and Japanese action or adventure games, yes. But I also know that I play games that kids don't like and/or can't play well and the characters are 12. And most of the people I know who play games are at least mid-twenties. But for myself, even when I was younger and played games I would be thinking "Where are the godamn adults? Why do they just sit on their asses while the 14 year old save the world?" There are also M games where the main characters are still in high school. Sure, M means 18+ around here, and I'm sure people younger than that are playing them, but still. I would never NOT play a game because the main character is an adult, but my suspension of disbelief is often royally manhandled when I'm forced to destroy packs of raging, blood-spattered demons with a 11 year old and a butter knife. Maybe it's just me.
What 14 year old really plays Advance Wars?
Kids that want to learn how to drop it like a phat beat.
It always amuses me when Japan entrusts their giant robots to a bunch of teenagers.
That's something that I always thought was funny.
"Hey little guy, you and your little friends are the only ones who can save the world. I know you're too young to drink, but hey, I have these deadly swords, guns, and magic spells that only the wisest and oldest people in the world can wield. Thanks for saving the universe from evil, but I'm gonna have to charge full price for these deadly weapons. Have fun kids!"
Because they want the player base to be able to relate to the person they are playing as. The majority of gamers are under 25.
You might as well ask why the main characters of most kids cartoons are children.
JRPS and Japanese action or adventure games, yes. But I also know that I play games that kids don't like and/or can't play well and the characters are 12. And most of the people I know who play games are at least mid-twenties. But for myself, even when I was younger and played games I would be thinking "Where are the godamn adults? Why do they just sit on their asses while the 14 year old save the world?" There are also M games where the main characters are still in high school. Sure, M means 18+ around here, and I'm sure people younger than that are playing them, but still. I would never NOT play a game because the main character is an adult, but my suspension of disbelief is often royally manhandled when I'm forced to destroy packs of raging, blood-spattered demons with a 11 year old and a butter knife. Maybe it's just me.
An average that is skewed by the fact that any one who plays Bejewled semi-regularily is counted in that.
which is a game.
edit: im only 22, so it isnt really a concern for me, but i have noticed the trend.
I just want to add, my grandmother plays Bejeweled. She's 80 years old. Now a jump from say a 9 year old to 19, or even 29 isn't that breaking on an average, but when you factor in seniors in their later years, it can definitely have a bigger impact on the ages.
It's one of those "The Youth are the future!" kind of things, only instead of cleaning up environment that was fucked up by the older generation, they're killing demons.
The children are the future... unless we stop them now!
I would totally play a hard-boiled game where you're a middle-aged or older hero coming out of retirement to kick ass one last time and probably do it without subtlety, with the main character expiring at the game's end.
So, MGS4. Or that Kane and Lynch game. Or anything else that applies.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
What happened to the days when heroes were manly men (or manly women)? DOOM Guy, Duke Nukem, the guys from Contra...Now we have Cloud and Squall. Yech.
What happened to the days when heroes were manly men (or manly women)?
You started playing JRPGs. I prescribe pretty much anything else, although it's best if it's non-Asian in origin. Should clear up your symptoms quickly.
What happened to the days when heroes were manly men (or manly women)?
You started playing JRPGs. I prescribe pretty much anything else, although it's best if it's non-Asian in origin. Should clear up your symptoms quickly.
But look at the Breath of Fire series (except for 5). The main character wasn't the manliest guy around, but he's always better than the pussies that save the world these days.
What happened to the days when heroes were manly men (or manly women)?
You started playing JRPGs. I prescribe pretty much anything else, although it's best if it's non-Asian in origin. Should clear up your symptoms quickly.
But look at the Breath of Fire series (except for 5). The main character wasn't the manliest guy around, but he's always better than the pussies that save the world these days.
Doesn't fly these days apparently. I blame the Japanese youths. I'm sure their holding their Game Devs hostage with oversized swords as we speak. "Hey, I see hair under that protagonist's arms. Younger Damn You!!!".
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
MGS4?
Middle aged, not senior citizen.
I heartily endorse the idea of more game protagonists over the age of 60.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
MGS4?
Middle aged, not senior citizen.
I heartily endorse the idea of more game protagonists over the age of 60.
At least in FFXII they were... a bit older? (Ignoring Vaan and Penelo...) Balthier was 22, Fran was (__don't ask__), Basch was 36.
...Although Larsa was 12
I think it's just a general prevailing trend amongst media that is primarily aimed at the teen-25 market. That and being something of a JRPG/anime/manga cliche... (everyone wants to be 16 in those, although I swear they never look their age. Unless I have terrible age perception)
25 seems to be a capping point. I mean, I'm pretty sure most of the Resident Evil playable characters were around that age.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
MGS4?
Middle aged, not senior citizen.
I heartily endorse the idea of more game protagonists over the age of 60.
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I have no doubt that Kojima would make that work really well.
This is something I kinda don't like too. I'm also convinced that this is why Raiden was added for MGS2. Personally, I think a middle-aged person kicking ass is totally awesome, and want to see more of it.
MGS4?
Middle aged, not senior citizen.
I heartily endorse the idea of more game protagonists over the age of 60.
Metal Gear Solid 5: Alzheimer's is a Bitch
I have no doubt that Kojima would make that work really well.
Provided he doesn't receive any more death threats, 4 is supposed to be his last MGS game.
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You know, because kids play video games, and wouldn't relate to a mid-30s, balding fat guy named Buddy Jim.
Adults only relate to mechanic women and furries.
Selling to the young male demographic, they need to make them old.. but not too old because too old is uncool and we wouldn't want that.
You might as well ask why the main characters of most kids cartoons are children.
Is this still true?
Lots of heroes are adults too.
The complaint is mostly for JRPGs I imagine.
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To be honest, as a kid I liked it when I would play a game where the main character was my age. I didn't play too many games as a kid, around age 10; but loved Zelda and loved it when playing as a young Link in OOT and MM. My brother played mostly Macho guy games and he bought the systems and the games, so when deciding which game to play, Mortal Kombat versus Zelda, I think it was pretty obvious and to me it was actually fun to have a young hero that wasn't some crazy thunder god guy who shocks his opponents until they explode.
An average that is skewed by the fact that any one who plays Bejewled semi-regularily is counted in that.
JRPS and Japanese action or adventure games, yes. But I also know that I play games that kids don't like and/or can't play well and the characters are 12. And most of the people I know who play games are at least mid-twenties. But for myself, even when I was younger and played games I would be thinking "Where are the godamn adults? Why do they just sit on their asses while the 14 year old save the world?" There are also M games where the main characters are still in high school. Sure, M means 18+ around here, and I'm sure people younger than that are playing them, but still. I would never NOT play a game because the main character is an adult, but my suspension of disbelief is often royally manhandled when I'm forced to destroy packs of raging, blood-spattered demons with a 11 year old and a butter knife. Maybe it's just me.
What 14 year old really plays Advance Wars?
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I agree though, I'd like to see more variation in the 'heroes' of games.
Kids that want to learn how to drop it like a phat beat.
That's something that I always thought was funny.
"Hey little guy, you and your little friends are the only ones who can save the world. I know you're too young to drink, but hey, I have these deadly swords, guns, and magic spells that only the wisest and oldest people in the world can wield. Thanks for saving the universe from evil, but I'm gonna have to charge full price for these deadly weapons. Have fun kids!"
which is a game.
edit: im only 22, so it isnt really a concern for me, but i have noticed the trend.
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I did when I was 14.
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I just want to add, my grandmother plays Bejeweled. She's 80 years old. Now a jump from say a 9 year old to 19, or even 29 isn't that breaking on an average, but when you factor in seniors in their later years, it can definitely have a bigger impact on the ages.
You know, considering how many statistics there are on things I like... very few professionals ask me questions about what I do.
The children are the future... unless we stop them now!
So, MGS4. Or that Kane and Lynch game. Or anything else that applies.
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MGS4?
I never asked for this!
Middle aged, not senior citizen.
You started playing JRPGs. I prescribe pretty much anything else, although it's best if it's non-Asian in origin. Should clear up your symptoms quickly.
But look at the Breath of Fire series (except for 5). The main character wasn't the manliest guy around, but he's always better than the pussies that save the world these days.
Doesn't fly these days apparently. I blame the Japanese youths. I'm sure their holding their Game Devs hostage with oversized swords as we speak. "Hey, I see hair under that protagonist's arms. Younger Damn You!!!".
I heartily endorse the idea of more game protagonists over the age of 60.
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...Although Larsa was 12
I think it's just a general prevailing trend amongst media that is primarily aimed at the teen-25 market. That and being something of a JRPG/anime/manga cliche... (everyone wants to be 16 in those, although I swear they never look their age. Unless I have terrible age perception)
25 seems to be a capping point. I mean, I'm pretty sure most of the Resident Evil playable characters were around that age.
It's awesome kicking ass with a long beard and gray hair.
I have no doubt that Kojima would make that work really well.
Provided he doesn't receive any more death threats, 4 is supposed to be his last MGS game.