So then the only real question we have right about now is:
In this late stage of the game, why would someone who allegedly has no connection or motive, save Buzz Buzz from death.
I believe that no one would do that, only someone who was aligned with Buzz Buzz would do that. So, is Buzz Buzz a part of a network of good guys, or is he one of the villains tearing France apart? Unless someone alleges otherwise, I say he's a scoundrel and should be put away like the rest of the scum.
Alright Butt Butt, I don't want you jailed tonight. I have a better target(s).
Remember Night 3? That night, MrBlarney, our Chancellor, approved the torturing of Ardor. Ardor was a Bohemian Agent, as we have seen. Now, that night, Blarney was jailed by use of Confidental letters. The question for me is, did MrBlarney receive the results of that seering, or did his successor, Grundlterror? neither of them said anything about the results.
One of those two is Ardor's comrade, and a traitor in the eyes of France. Thusly, I am going to !vote to kill Grundlterror. I hope the free men of France will listen to my logic, and vote to kill MrBlarney. One of those *has* to be a traitor.
Alright Butt Butt, I don't want you jailed tonight. I have a better target(s).
Remember Night 3? That night, MrBlarney, our Chancellor, approved the torturing of Ardor. Ardor was a Bohemian Agent, as we have seen. Now, that night, Blarney was jailed by use of Confidental letters. The question for me is, did MrBlarney receive the results of that seering, or did his successor, Grundlterror? neither of them said anything about the results.
One of those two is Ardor's comrade, and a traitor in the eyes of France. Thusly, I am going to !vote to kill Grundlterror. I hope the free men of France will listen to my logic, and vote to kill MrBlarney. One of those *has* to be a traitor.
We never got seering results on Ardor because he was busted out of jail by Niceguy Myeye before he got seered (see order of actions.... the chancellor can only seer someone who is in jail and since items come before chancellor action I have been seered an innocent and was obviously on the good guy network since I managed to let out the aristocrat seer before I died.
So go ahead and vote for someone who has proven themselves to be allied with the good network. It will probably be a great strategy if we want to let the bad guys win.
Sorry Grundl, but I wasn't a part of your network. I don't really have any proof that you were a part of a good network, seeing as most of the specials this game seem to be dead or jailed. I'll keep on my suspicion, because it's the best target I've got for tonight
So, mind explaining why you want to shiv me, other then "you've always suspected me"
Because I pretty much proved that I was seered and on the good network when I knew to release the seer. I'm voting for you now because your vote for me is unwarranted.... although anyone who PrecisionK suspected is probably an innocent because only the insane and weak minded followed his lead. I'd be willing to consider other options if presented.
Ok, I believe Grundlterror, but I don't really think DethKok is evil either.
I'm gonna Vote Qorzm for the same reason I did before, low post count bandwagon jumper. This is just a placeholder until I think of someone better.
Oh, and Church!
I find Grundl's move to suddenly support the Church pretty interesting. After all, didn't an aristocrat traitor just die? Don't the numbers favor the aristocrats as having less Bohemians and Revolutionaires now? So why does he want to give the Church items now, when the Aristocrats deserve the items the most right now.
I think giving the items to the church has more to do with fostering a sense of cooperation, then with an analysis of the numbers. At least that's why I voted to send it to them. As for Grundl, well, he can speak for himself.
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
Well, think about it. All this time the bloody items have been working against us, nullifying practically everything in transit from the jail to the living. We're gimped. So I !Vote for the Aristocrats
Well what I was trying to do was to see who would follow my lead (as one of the only publicly "confirmed" network members) and give items to the church.. it would be an easy way to see if any baddies were hiding in the prison.
Unfortunately we only got one before you guys called me out on it (which is understandable) so I suppose I'll change my vote now.
Why is it at all? I throw a vote out there... the bad guys think hey we can work this, Grundl is voting for the church to receive an item, people aren't paying as much attention since its nearing the end of the game... lets get the bandwagon started! Then we look at the people who voted for the church to get an item and assume that there is a good chance that person is evil.
I think it's better than nothing. It's certainly the best thing I can do down here.
Because it's absolutely impossible that a random good guy thinks "oh, Grundlterror's supposedly in the network, I think he knows what he's talking about" and follows your lead. Really, come now.
You released the seer, that's just peachy. Except the seer got axed. And I don't have any proof that you were actually seered, so....yeah, I'm basing my vote on your actions.
How the hell do you think I knew Jester was the seer?
Edit: I'm just baffled how you can call my logic bad (when it isn't) while it's pretty obvious that I was in the good guy network and I had to do something for them to let me in. They seered me night two after I got out of jail because that was suspicious to them (I was the first person to break out of jail).
Ok, that is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. I agreed with what someone said, so I must be evil? I believe you're an innocent so I won't try to turn the vote on you, but damn dude, seriously.
And apparently, fostering a sense of cooperation is not a good idea. My vote's gonna stay though.
Edit: I'm just baffled how you can call my logic bad (when it isn't) while it's pretty obvious that I was in the good guy network and I had to do something for them to let me in. They seered me night two after I got out of jail because that was suspicious to them (I was the first person to break out of jail).
You keep saying "I was in the network" and well, that's an easy claim to make because you don't need any proof to back it up. The closest thing to proof you have is that you let jester313 out and that he was the seer.
Which doesn't prove anything. if you were evil, it would make a lot of sense to kill whoever you were letting out.
I think the living is doing a good enough job on their own. Two nights ago Buzz gets seered but PK is put in jail and Buzz becomes Cardinal? Then he gets the popular vote but survives? This ain't no electoral college something is afoot here. Sure someone could be trying to frame him, but it's safer to put him in the slammer.
There's something we can agree on! Butt Butt is obviously evil. Crazy obviously. Just because it's so late in the game doesn't mean you can't be subtle, Butt Butt
Well, we're mostly Aristocrats and non-insane Clergy in here Qorzm, so maybe proving how useful you were in fucking us over isn't the best idea.
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
Yeah, I distinctly recall a certain Cardinal promising us that a baddie would be taken down, claimed it was FWD after resolutely defended him the days before, only to end up with FWD not being a baddie (much to my utter surprise), thus pushing our stunted progress even further back a couple of days.
Sadly I'm not in a position to read the jail thread in depth today so I'm going to drop my vote for !Qorzm due to a lack of better knowledge at the moment.
Yeah, I distinctly recall a certain Cardinal promising us that a baddie would be taken down, claimed it was FWD after resolutely defended him the days before, only to end up with FWD not being a baddie (much to my utter surprise), thus pushing our stunted progress even further back a couple of days.
In other words
:x PK and his posse
Hey I promised bad guys, I am sure there are a few in here. Not my fault this bastilje is slow to kill.
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In this late stage of the game, why would someone who allegedly has no connection or motive, save Buzz Buzz from death.
I believe that no one would do that, only someone who was aligned with Buzz Buzz would do that. So, is Buzz Buzz a part of a network of good guys, or is he one of the villains tearing France apart? Unless someone alleges otherwise, I say he's a scoundrel and should be put away like the rest of the scum.
Remember Night 3? That night, MrBlarney, our Chancellor, approved the torturing of Ardor. Ardor was a Bohemian Agent, as we have seen. Now, that night, Blarney was jailed by use of Confidental letters. The question for me is, did MrBlarney receive the results of that seering, or did his successor, Grundlterror? neither of them said anything about the results.
One of those two is Ardor's comrade, and a traitor in the eyes of France. Thusly, I am going to !vote to kill Grundlterror. I hope the free men of France will listen to my logic, and vote to kill MrBlarney. One of those *has* to be a traitor.
We never got seering results on Ardor because he was busted out of jail by Niceguy Myeye before he got seered (see order of actions.... the chancellor can only seer someone who is in jail and since items come before chancellor action I have been seered an innocent and was obviously on the good guy network since I managed to let out the aristocrat seer before I died.
So go ahead and vote for someone who has proven themselves to be allied with the good network. It will probably be a great strategy if we want to let the bad guys win.
!vote Dethkok
Also, I think we should give the church some items tonight, they might need some.
Go Go Church folk!
So, mind explaining why you want to shiv me, other then "you've always suspected me"
I'm gonna Vote Qorzm for the same reason I did before, low post count bandwagon jumper. This is just a placeholder until I think of someone better.
Oh, and Church!
NNID: Hakkekage
Unfortunately we only got one before you guys called me out on it (which is understandable) so I suppose I'll change my vote now.
!vote PsychoCucumber
Aristocrats!
That's horrible, horrible logic.
I think it's better than nothing. It's certainly the best thing I can do down here.
You have better evidence? You are voting for the person who released the seer.
Edit: I'm just baffled how you can call my logic bad (when it isn't) while it's pretty obvious that I was in the good guy network and I had to do something for them to let me in. They seered me night two after I got out of jail because that was suspicious to them (I was the first person to break out of jail).
And apparently, fostering a sense of cooperation is not a good idea. My vote's gonna stay though.
Which doesn't prove anything. if you were evil, it would make a lot of sense to kill whoever you were letting out.
Do you understand where I am coming from? I mean, losing you down here shouldn't be a huge lose, if I'm wrong.
Plus I'm going to die anyway tonight if I'm not released and since I know I'm not bad you should put your vote on someone else.
Edit: Well, everyone in the main thread is getting pissy cause I voted for the church, so Retract Church, Vote Aritocrats
And I think a special like precisionK would be a more important spring, then a vanilla.
Anyways, I'd rather kill a vanilla who is going to die anyways, then accidentally axe someone who, if sprung, could be useful to the living thread.
Don't have much to add right now.
If I'm sprung I'd rather have Qorzm be killed than me, in case someone can bust me out. I can still be useful to the village.
!vote Qorzm
!Church
!Grundlterror
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Also, I was helping PrecisionK quite a bit before I got thrown in here.
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In other words
:x PK and his posse
NNID: Hakkekage
@Bryceforvice on Twitter Facebook
Hey I promised bad guys, I am sure there are a few in here. Not my fault this bastilje is slow to kill.