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I'm buying an Xbox 360... O God please help me.

SartorisSartoris Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
So with the recent price drop I've finally decided to enter into the world of the console after being a PC-only user for 12+ years. I've played on consoles quite a bit. We had a nintendo, super nintendo, etc. when I was a kid. However, this will be my first purchase of a console as a (cough, cough) responsible adult.

Anyway, I roll with a Dell 2405 and really like the fact that I can hook up the 360 to my PC screen. I've checked www.avsforum.com and a few other places and it appears that with a 2405 you're stuck with using component for HD. Apparently using a HDMI to DVI converter won't work (gives a black screen with weird vertical lines). Component can still deliver HD content, but the picture is better when you use DVI. Once you buy a HDMI to DVI converterm that is.

Also, I would like to make sure I'm operating under correct assumptions. Does the Xbox 360 currently support 1080p? (yes I am so console retarded I've had to ask this question)

So I'm looking for a little advice.

One, do any of you all have a 2405 and can confirm my HDMI woes?

Two, clearly I would rather spend $350 platinum than $450 for the elite version if money is the only issue. Here is how I break down the pros and cons currently. The pros of the elite are: Black finish = nice but not necessary, 120GB drive = I really think I won't have a hard time deleting files on 20GB of space if it ever came down to it, and......... thats it I believe. So am I missing something here? Is the $100 difference only in the Hard Drive?

Three, I own Guitar Hero 2. I love the game so much I bought it just to play it at my friends house. I'm looking to buy one other game, maybe two. I own Oblivion for the PC so no thanks (and I have a beefy graphics card so really no thanks). I've played Dead Rising until I'm sick of it so thats out. I don't really go for racing games. I'm not saying I would never buy one I just don't want one right now. I'm considering sports games. Virtua Tennis, the new Madden, and maybe Fight Night 3. I've played FN3 and I had fun but I would like to rent it once before I buy. Really, as far as recommendations go I'm asking for input on games I probably haven't played or have heard only a little of. For example, I've beaten both Gears and Halo, but whats this Blue Dragon thing?

Hopefully this will be useful to more than just me. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: I just saw Organichu's post so game recommendations may not be necessary.

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bioshock

    edit: fuck you bruin


    anyway, I hadn't heard about HDMI/DVI problems with specific monitors, so I can't really help you with that.

    Yeah pretty much the only difference now between the Elites and Premiums is the black finish and the hard driver. (Though be carefull because only the newer model premiums have HDMI ports, the old ones dont. Be sure to check the back of the box.)

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    stranger678stranger678 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Without doing any research whatsoever, is there a reason you couldn't hook it up to your monitor with a VGA cable? Mines hooked to my TV, but my roomate uses the VGA cable to put it on his 22' WS monitor, and it looks bitchin.

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    LA:LA: United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'll third Bioshock

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    stranger678stranger678 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    And I would also throw my reccomends to BIOSHOCK.

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    AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Blue Dragon is an old school traditional JRPG. There are some pretty good impressions on the next to last page of the JRPG thread on the current page. Hmmm, as far as the rest, Fight Night 3 is a load of fun, but the online is a bit of suck. Virtua Tennis is great too apparently, and Madden is, well, Madden, though again apparently EA boned online on that one across the board too.

    Hmm, as for the rest, I'm guessing you're going to get Gears for the PC if you're interested in it, same with Bioshock. What games/genres are you really into? I would also suggest taking advantage of the marketplace. Even with Live Silver you can download the hell out of every demo in sight, and this includes the wealth of gaming goodness on the Arcade.

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    SartorisSartoris Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Okies. Looks like Bioshock is getting the lovin'. I have a friend that has it and has already beated it. So I'm sure I can get my hands on that jewel. Any others?

    As far as what games I'm into in a rough order of importance....

    RPGs, western style preferred (really good JRPGS are good also)
    Action Adventure (Dead Rising, Tomb Raider, etc)
    Sports
    FPS (only because I can usually get it better on my PC)

    But where the hell do you put games like Gutar Hero or Harvest Moon? I love the fuck out of games like that.

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    AsciipandaAsciipanda Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    You're sort of running into the same problem as I, sir- I played 360 so much in college (my roommate had it) that I've already played quite a few of the top sellers into the ground.

    I'll also toss in Bioshock, though, just from playing the demo. You might also want to give Tiger Woods a shot... it is chock full of simulation-esque gameplay if you're into golf.

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    GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    VGA cable should work fine on that monitor. Also, Bioshock is great, but dont overlook XBLA games.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you've got a good PC rig, why not pick up Bioshock for the PC?

    I prefer KB/M to a controller for a game like that.

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    SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    bruin wrote: »

    It's ok. I played it this weekend. It's a little too linear for my tastes.

    And not enough multiplayer.

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    corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The Darkness. This is not popular opionion probably, but I enjoyed it as much if not more than Bioshock. I haven't finished Bioshock yet though. This is also in no way a knock on Bioshock. The Darkness is just hugely under rated.

    Also for godsakes buy Geo Wars.

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    SartorisSartoris Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Thanks for all the great recommendations guys. Personally, I can't wait for Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect. Well I'm off to the store to pick up my system.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    If you're hoping for multiplayer, too, you could probably just grab a wired controller for the second player. The wires aren't woefully short, and it's what, 10 bucks you could save? I only find myself using wireless when I want to lay in bed/on the couch while playing single player games late at night... during multiplayer my friends are all gathered around the TV, anyway.

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    JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bioshock, Bioshock, and Bioshock. It's ridiculously amazing.

    The Darkness is good.
    Madden 08 is better than it has been.
    Condemned is good.
    NBA 2k7 was good, but i'd wait till October for either 2k8 or Live 08.
    MLB 2k7 was fucking awesome, but buggy as shit.

    Other than that, i'd mention Dead Rising and Gears of War, but you said nay on those.

    I hope you find something you enjoy a lot.

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    stranger678stranger678 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Eternal Sonata is out in September, shaping up to be a cool JRPG

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Also something that you should definitely keep in mind is XBox Live Arcade. There are a ton of high quality games for download there for $5-$10. Plus they all have demos so you could try them out before buying. Personally (and I know I'm not the only one), I've spent more time on XBLA than on retail XBox 360 games (although Bioshock & the other blockbusters coming soon may change that). Some personal favorites:

    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - Solid port of one of the best PS1 games of all time. Fantastic Action/RPG (think Metroid with vampires).

    Pac-Man: Championship Edition - A supercharged enhanced version of Pac-Man with fast paced gameplay and evolving levels. So much more fun than it may sound.

    Geometry Wars - $5. Insane shooter action.

    Space Giraffe - Another $5 shooter. Takes some getting used to, but once you get in its groove, it's glorious with its psychedelic visuals and intense gameplay.

    Heavy Weapon - Very fun game where you control a tank with incredible firepower and you shoot down enemy planes. Insanely awesome with 4 player online multiplayer.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'd recommend picking up the demos for those games first, personally.

    I've had many people tell me how great some XBLA games are, but after 2 or 3 days, I can't get any enjoyment out of them (Bomberman).

    Symphony of the Night was a good port, but the 360 controller was pretty bad for the game. (Joystick sucks, and the D-Pad is terrible).

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    AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Go to the Demos section of the Xbox Live Marketplace and start trying out anything that sounds interesting.

    Personally I'd recommend Viva Pinata, Fable (BC), Kameo, Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (BC), and Crimson Skies (BC). These are five cheap titles that are must plays. I know the three BCs is odd for a 360 list but they are gloriously good and between $17 and $5 used. There are other great non-FPS games but these always stick out in my mind as being an absolute joy to play.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Speaking of XBLA is Castle Crashers ever going to come out.

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    AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Speaking of XBLA is Castle Crashers ever going to come out.

    It got bumped to 2008 earlier this year when the Arcade around the time that the file size increase happened.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Man it seems like I've already been waiting a year+ for that game.

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    greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I would wait on buying a 360. If you waited this long you can wait a bit longer for the 65nm chips. The current consoles are prone to failures and are kinda noisy. The new cooler chips will (hopefully) improve both these issues. I predict the 65nm consoles will be out during Nov for the holiday crunch.

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    corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    greeble wrote: »
    I would wait on buying a 360. If you waited this long you can wait a bit longer for the 65nm chips. The current consoles are prone to failures and are kinda noisy. The new cooler chips will (hopefully) improve both these issues. I predict the 65nm consoles will be out during Nov for the holiday crunch.

    If you read the thread you would notice he already left to pick the system up. The new heat sinks sound like they are doing a pretty good job keeping the box running. That with the upgraded warranty make it a pretty safe purchase. Now seems like a great time to pick up a 360. Recent price drop, new heatsink solution, hdmi out, and a volumetric fuckton of awesome games coming out between now and xmas.

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    One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you loved Guitar Hero II enough to buy it just to play on a friend's system, I would suggest Rock Band when it comes out.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I just picked up a 360 today, and I feel pretty confident with the 2 year warranty. If it fails, I can just get a newer model. Win either way.

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    mescalitomescalito Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I just picked up a 360 today, and I feel pretty confident with the 2 year warranty. If it fails, I can just get a newer model. Win either way.


    Well, eerrr, it's a 3 year against the red lights and its a 1 year on everything else...

    P.S - Does anyone know how much an extended warranty costs from MS?

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    NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

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    etdragonetdragon Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    mescalito wrote: »
    I just picked up a 360 today, and I feel pretty confident with the 2 year warranty. If it fails, I can just get a newer model. Win either way.


    Well, eerrr, it's a 3 year against the red lights and its a 1 year on everything else...

    P.S - Does anyone know how much an extended warranty costs from MS?
    I believe it is $60 for 2 years.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

    Salmon'd for you know what. HDMI cables are cheap as shit.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It's got like five different sorts of cables with it.

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    DesertBoxDesertBox Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    etdragon wrote: »
    mescalito wrote: »
    I just picked up a 360 today, and I feel pretty confident with the 2 year warranty. If it fails, I can just get a newer model. Win either way.


    Well, eerrr, it's a 3 year against the red lights and its a 1 year on everything else...

    P.S - Does anyone know how much an extended warranty costs from MS?
    I believe it is $60 for 2 years.

    $49.90. I bought it right before the warranty extension was announced.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

    Salmon'd for you know what. HDMI cables are cheap as shit.

    But it DOES come with a cable needed for digital sound output, which is $50 some odd by itself.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

    Salmon'd for you know what. HDMI cables are cheap as shit.

    But it DOES come with a cable needed for digital sound output, which is $50 some odd by itself.

    No, it's not. You guys just don't know how to shop for cables.

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    UberEvUberEv Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

    Salmon'd for you know what. HDMI cables are cheap as shit.

    But it DOES come with a cable needed for digital sound output, which is $50 some odd by itself.

    No, it's not. You guys just don't know how to shop for cables.

    He's right, I paid about $2 for my DVI-to-HDMI cable and about a whopping $4 for the optical cable I'm using.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Personally if you've been a 12year+ PC gamer, I'd avoid buying shooters on the Xbox360...you will SUCK at using the controller to play, most likely, as I did. I bought Oblivion for my 360, because I loved Morrowind on the PC and my PC won't run Oblivion, and I INSTANTLY regretted it. Controlling my character was almost impossible.

    Instead, I played Need for Speed: Carbon, which was the other game I bought with my 360, until I got a chance to return Oblivion to EB, and i traded it for Forza Motorsport 2, which was one of the best buys I've ever made.

    Shooters, in my opinion, are not something consoles do well. At least not compared to PC.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    UberEv wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you're looking for HMDI cables, the Elite comes with them and they more or less make up the difference between the Premium and Elite in cost right there.

    Salmon'd for you know what. HDMI cables are cheap as shit.

    But it DOES come with a cable needed for digital sound output, which is $50 some odd by itself.

    No, it's not. You guys just don't know how to shop for cables.

    He's right, I paid about $2 for my DVI-to-HDMI cable and about a whopping $4 for the optical cable I'm using.

    I mean this thing:
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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Personally if you've been a 12year+ PC gamer, I'd avoid buying shooters on the Xbox360...you will SUCK at using the controller to play, most likely, as I did. I bought Oblivion for my 360, because I loved Morrowind on the PC and my PC won't run Oblivion, and I INSTANTLY regretted it. Controlling my character was almost impossible.

    Instead, I played Need for Speed: Carbon, which was the other game I bought with my 360, until I got a chance to return Oblivion to EB, and i traded it for Forza Motorsport 2, which was one of the best buys I've ever made.

    Shooters, in my opinion, are not something consoles do well. At least not compared to PC.

    Gears of War, being third person and with controls built for the 360, handles amazingly. Took me only like 5 minutes to get the hang of it.

    I haven't played any FPS for my 360 yet though. Planning on picking up Bioshock and giving it a try.

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