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[Mini-Phalla] Logical Phallacy - What you can't seer can hurt you (EVIL VICTORY!)

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Uh, Aldo is evil. He tampered with the seering list, way back here and Squash called him on it here

    So, how did he tamper with that list, and in what way did it benefit him?

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    We went over this twice already. :P

    I claimed I followed a different logic to Squashua's, Squashua understood this. I'm not going over this again. In fact, I'm going to bed.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Uh, Aldo is evil. He tampered with the seering list, way back here and Squash called him on it here

    So, how did he tamper with that list, and in what way did it benefit him?
    Aldo tries to explain it here:
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2813862#post2813862

    What you notice is this:

    Aldo's list:
    Hakke<
    >B:L
    Fembot<---->DA
    Zot<
    >Prëtëntïöüs
    FWD<
    >Squashua
    Thorgot<---->Aldo
    Ardor<
    >Mrballsbaggin
    TS<
    >Bliss101

    Squashua's list:
    Hakkekage <---> B:L
    Fembot <---> DevoutlyApathetic
    Zot <---> PRËTËNTIÖüS
    thorgot <---> Squashua
    Ardor <---> Aldo
    TehSpectre <---> MrBallBaggins
    FunkyWaltDogg <---> Bliss 101



    Changes in Aldo's list:
    Squashua seers FWD instead of thorgot.
    FWD seers Squashua instead of Bliss. (both innocent)
    Thorgot seers Aldo instead of Squashua.
    Aldo seers Thorgot instead of Ardor.
    Ardor seers MrBallBaggins instead of Aldo.
    MrBallBaggins seers Ardor instead of TehSpectre.
    TehSpectre seers Bliss instead of MrBallBaggins.
    Bliss seers TehSpectre instead of FWD.


    If you're looking for Aldo's partner, it puts a bit of suspicion on thorgot, but it's really inconclusive.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It makes sense to me that Thorgot could be evil because of that. Aldo could have thought Squash was a real seer, and so he did a little "mistake" that would have protected Thorgot, his buddy.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It makes sense to me that Thorgot could be evil because of that. Aldo could have thought Squash was a real seer, and so he did a little "mistake" that would have protected Thorgot, his buddy.
    It's really inconclusive because this was the first day, and any baddie would have had plenty of time to off their "seer".

    In any case,

    !Retract TehSpectre even though he is an evil dog
    !Vote Aldo because he's confirmed to be both evil and bad at this

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    thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It makes sense to me that Thorgot could be evil because of that. Aldo could have thought Squash was a real seer, and so he did a little "mistake" that would have protected Thorgot, his buddy.

    I'm glad we're randomly guessing about other people's guesses, now. Very logical.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm glad you are getting so defensive, especially considering the case against you is fucking weak compared to the TehSpectre/B:L thing, which would be resolved after we axe Aldo.

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    thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm glad you are getting so defensive, especially considering the case against you is fucking weak compared to the TehSpectre/B:L thing, which would be resolved after we axe Aldo.

    I'm glad that pointing out the weakness of an argument you admit is weak is getting defensive.

    Let me clarify it for you. My point was that I was suspicious of you for trying to use pseudologic. It wasn't defensive at all.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Well, I'm sorry but it came off snarky and defensive, you naughty man.

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    thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    That's because I am snarky right now.

    I'm assuming I am paranoid at this point, but I'll send in my seering of Marx anyways.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I love you, Thorgot!

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Thanks to behind the scenes hijinks, I !retract Aldo and !vote TehSpectre.


    tPretentious I am the sheepliest sheeple of them all
    I am curious about behind the scenes hijinks.

    Is B:L secretly PMing people to vote for me? What the hell? Seriously.

    B:L is acting so batshit insane, it is obvious what he is doing. Is anyone else paying attention?

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The problem is that B:L is always batshit insane, so it's hard to tell when it's good batshit and bad batshit. Still, stick to the Aldo killing plan.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    No. My vote stays on B:L. I wanted Aldo to go last night.

    B:L is trying to control/confuse people.

    He just did the same thing with Ardor!

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I wanted Aldo to go last night as well, you dumbass, but he's a goddamn confirmed evil and we are going to kill him, goddamnit

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    cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Once again, narration will likely be a bit delayed due to my late return from work. Vote still closes at the regular time.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I wanted Aldo to go last night as well, you dumbass, but he's a goddamn confirmed evil and we are going to kill him, goddamnit
    Please do.

    As long as B:L isn't salivating over the thought of a tie again, I will be happy.

    My vote is just going to show everyone how I stand and how I am voting tomorrow.

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    FembotFembot Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I wanted Aldo to go last night as well, you dumbass, but he's a goddamn confirmed evil and we are going to kill him, goddamnit

    Well, so long as nobody voting for him suddenly becomes stupid, we should be fine.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Fembot wrote: »
    I wanted Aldo to go last night as well, you dumbass, but he's a goddamn confirmed evil and we are going to kill him, goddamnit

    Well, so long as nobody voting for him suddenly becomes stupid, we should be fine.

    Or evil, don't forget the evil.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I hate you all and I get the feeling I'm not going to survive the night.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I hate you all and I get the feeling I'm not going to survive the night.
    Don't worry, Aldo is eating the vote tonight, barring very possible but very stupid shenanigans, and I'm most likely taking a hit. If the evils are smart at all, Spectre would be taking the other hit.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So, guys, just remember: Even though it's a "logical" Phalla, doesn't mean you start ignoring typical Phalla warning signs of people being evil.

    B:L and Tehspectre are both evil, I'm fairly certain.

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    cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Vote closed.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Juuuust fucking with you guys. I always wanted to do that. :lol:

    So alright, down to business. I'm actually a true seer. For reals.
    As such, I'm probably dead as doornails tonight, so I might as well lay it down for you guys. In case the bad guys don't hit and kill each other in some hilarious crossfire.

    Since I've seered Hakke as an innocent, she's the only real trustworthy one of the bunch. Good luck, you're outnumbered. :|

    Now here are my evil picks:

    TehSpectre (100% damn guaranteed): If you don't believe my true seering, just look at how he's acting now and throughout the whole game. Being "against ties" then trying to tie the vote onto Aldo, throwing a suspicion-deflecting vote against his partner on early Day 1, NOT VOTING FOR ALDO TONIGHT, the list goes on. If you let him convince you of his innocence after all that, then you deserve what's coming.

    Fembot (80%): Fembot did not BAT AN EYE when I outted Spectre as evil. FEMBOT. LEFT TEHSPECTRE ALONE. That isn't implausable, it's impossible. Oh, also, anyone who tried to seer Fembot was killed. Coincidence? No fucking way.

    Thorgot (70%): Lying low. Aldo vote shenanigans. Dethkok pointed out what happened, so read it there.

    Dethkok (10%): Needs a punch in the face though.


    GOOD LUCK. YOU'LL NEED IT!

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    cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Aldo has been seered as evil
    B:L has been seered as evil
    thorgot has been seered as good
    PRËTËNTIÖüS has been seered as evil
    MrBallbaggins has been seered as good
    Hakkekage has been seered as good



    Aldo was voted off.
    B:L was slain twice.

    One evil died today.

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    B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    cheez wrote: »
    Aldo was voted off.
    B:L was slain twice.

    One evil died today.
    THE GAME IS ON! ;-)

    oooooooo

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Sorry B:L, but it ain't my fault you are a dick and hard to read. Oh well. FEMBOT
    Your hour cometh!

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    FembotFembot Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    B:L wrote: »

    Fembot (80%): Fembot did not BAT AN EYE when I outted Spectre as evil. FEMBOT. LEFT TEHSPECTRE ALONE. That isn't implausable, it's impossible. Oh, also, anyone who tried to seer Fembot was killed. Coincidence? No fucking way.

    I'm sorry, what? I was supposed to not vote for a confirmed evil and go after someone who may or may not be evil because you and TS had a multi-post hissy fight?

    And yes, you're dead now. Like I said, it looks like someone is trying to frame me. Clever ruse, bitches.

    Now that we know B:L was innocent, it means TS is evil.!vote TehSpectre.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Great.

    Spectre got the set-up.

    Just pile on folks. No one ever listens to me and I am useless as a paranoid seer anyway.

    !Vote TehSpectre!

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I just realized what I read by B:L, and realized how nonsensical that last post was. I blame being awake at this hour. TehSpectre! Your Hour cometh! Fembot's okay, I guess

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yep, Spectre got set up by a true seer who died innocent. That makes sense.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Believe what you want Marx, I don't know why you voted for Fembot over me in the first place.

    As I said, I am not going to be much of a loss, being a paranoid seer, but B:L pushed me into the ground with doctored charts, so it's cool.

    If you guys kill me tonight, it's game over for the good guys. Hell, there will be 3 badguys left if they don't kill 1 or 2 of eachother off.

    Go back. Read my posts. I am right.

    You continue to be a little sheeple, Marx. Baa.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Goadin' ain't going to work on me, even if I don't have enough sleep, pal. it's pretty goddamn clear what you are, because B:L had to have been innocent, as Aldo told us he was a baddie. So, you want to allege you got set up a true seer for no reason? Or what, Spectre? I don't think you can weasel out of this.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Not trying to goad. Just pay attention.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Spectre, you can't weasel out of this. What was B:L's motive? Why would he lie about you? why would he try to kill you? There isn't a reason, he wasn't lying, and you are evil. Stop denying. Aldo didn't stoop this low.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    He tried to kill me for the same reasons he killed Ardor.

    He thought HE was right and manipulated everyone into following him.

    He was PMing people telling them to vote for me. He was the shady one, not I.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    *whistle*

    Fuck B:L, thanks for the load on my shoulders. I have the least amount of time to spend D:

    why did you dieeee

    Anyway, I agree with B:L's analysis of TehSpectre; also, I'm pretty fucking sure I'm an Insane seer. Even though I fucked up day 2, I seered Evil (Me), Evil (Pretentious), Good (MrBallBaggins). Therefore: BallBaggins you are god damn evil!

    Will be back with more later, I have a big project ahead of me due by the morning...

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hak has to be right, or she is evil. At this point in her voting record, there is no room for lies. Either Ballbaggins is evil, or Hakkekage is. I am gonna lean towards Baggins, since Hak would be an idiotic evil-doer to step forward like this.

    Since B:L is dead and I would rather have the good guys win:

    I !retract TehSpectre and !vote BallBaggins.

    Please, let's go after people that are confirmed badguys and not just people B:L had a hard-on for.

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    MrBallbagginsMrBallbaggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Well, I can damn well guarantee that I'm not evil, but I suppose I am an easy enough target for a scapgoat.

    The only thing I can't figure out is why Hakke would stick her neck out for TehSpectre like that, when she's gone all this time actually evil and hasn't been bandwagoned.

    Oh well. There's not a whole lot I can say in my defense. I must be a naive seer, so I don't guess I'm all that helpful to the village anyway. This must be how Ardor felt.

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