Actually, I was just expressing how it wasn't unexpected that the thread turned into a cock fight. It seems the original poster already made his decision, but we're still arguing which is better. We haven't had one in awhile, now that I think about it. Guess it's about time for that debate to surface again.
Far be it from me to stop you fighting. Go crazy.
I am still fairly undecided, both have their highlights. My main problem is that I am a Playstation fanboy, owned both 1 and 2 and loved them both. I want a PS3 for the backwards compatability and Metal Gear as well as feeling duty bound to buy Final Fantasy even if it doesn't look that good. However the 360 at the moment looks like a better deal. It has an immediate line up I want to play as opposed to the playstations admittedly great back catalogue from previous consoles as well as Live Arcade which is pretty fun if a bit weird on payments and a couple of AAA titles in a couple of months.
If I could I would be tempted to buy a 360 now and a PS3 later but it seems slightly extreme at the moment.
The problem is the Backwards Compatability of the PS3 will soon partially disappear. Software emulation is just not as good as hardware emulation. If BC is really important to you, and you think you'll get a PS3 eventually anyway, you may as well buy it now. The 360 will still be around when you're ready for a second console.
360 is a good console which has a lot of sweet games out especially if you don't have a 3000$ computer
the controller is good, live is good, but it has a terrible life expectancy
the ps3 is a good console, it has a lot of sweet games coming out for it and some already out, PSN has better games than XBLA imho, remote play with PSP is sweet and downloading PSN games onto your PSP is also sweet, but you know, 500$ is still too much for some people
are we done here
now THIS guy's a shill.
because i defend both consoles evenly?
You don't mention the lack of games for the PS3 as a weak point. Because it is.
Honestly though the same thing happened to the 360 in the first year, it is a weak point but it is something that will be corrected.
Yeah, I'll take the PSN games. For every Sonic or Doom theres 15 puzzle games.
Look closer DarkWarrior. Remove the Sony-brand goggles and look closer. Your ratio is... rather off.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
Actually, I was just expressing how it wasn't unexpected that the thread turned into a cock fight. It seems the original poster already made his decision, but we're still arguing which is better. We haven't had one in awhile, now that I think about it. Guess it's about time for that debate to surface again.
Far be it from me to stop you fighting. Go crazy.
I am still fairly undecided, both have their highlights. My main problem is that I am a Playstation fanboy, owned both 1 and 2 and loved them both. I want a PS3 for the backwards compatability and Metal Gear as well as feeling duty bound to buy Final Fantasy even if it doesn't look that good. However the 360 at the moment looks like a better deal. It has an immediate line up I want to play as opposed to the playstations admittedly great back catalogue from previous consoles as well as Live Arcade which is pretty fun if a bit weird on payments and a couple of AAA titles in a couple of months.
If I could I would be tempted to buy a 360 now and a PS3 later but it seems slightly extreme at the moment.
The problem is the Backwards Compatability of the PS3 will soon partially disappear. Software emulation is just not as good as hardware emulation. If BC is really important to you, and you think you'll get a PS3 eventually anyway, you may as well buy it now. The 360 will still be around when you're ready for a second console.
that's pretty much a moot point, especially considering the OP's in a non-emotion engine country to begin with. the ps3 software emulation is fine. i played through MGS3 only to later discover it was on the lowest level of compatibility - the only noticable problems were a corrupt save file and a little bit of slowdown in a couple of spots. nothing that made the game unplayable.
the biggest problem with software BC for the playstation is the stigma it has around places like this
Honestly, a lot of people finish only a fraction of the games they buy. I buy relatively few games, so I finish most of them, but I do this thing where I'll just stall out towards the end of an RPG, only to pick it up a year or even years later and restart with every intention of finishing it. I succeed about half the time.
Oh man, I have that same exact problem. It sucks so bad to do that too... I think I got to the end of Tales of Symphonia about 3 times, and could never go on.
Maybe it was my body forcing me to think the game never ends.
Tales of Symphonia never ends, because it has the best New Game + implimentation ever. Finish it!
I know!! Oh man I feel so bad to get SO far in the game and just stop. I just... Took a break for too long, and now I don't remember what happens. I don't want to lose 20+ hours of my life!
Yeah, I'll take the PSN games. For every Sonic or Doom theres 15 puzzle games.
Look closer DarkWarrior. Remove the Sony-brand goggles and look closer. Your ratio is... rather off.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
Geometry Wars
Assault Heroes
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Worms
Alien Hominid
Texas Hold'em (was free for a while)
Aegis Wing (free!)
Bomberman Live (best Bomberman game in years, and it's $10)
Uno
Prince of Persia Classic
Games I don't own but might pick up:
Sonic I&2
Streets of Rage II
Ecco the Dolphin
Space Giraffe
Contra
Carcassone
Catan
Pac-man Championship Edition
TMNT
Heavy Weapon
Doom
Marathon II
Cloning Clyde
The vast majority of that list are not Puzzle games. Jesus christ people.
Just buy the PS3. This threads sounds more like you WANT a PS3 but you came and made a thread because you had lingering doubts about your purchase because thex360 noise is too loud to ignore.
Just buy the PS3. play all that you desire and if you still find yourself wondering and then later after the novelty wears off looking over the fence at the otherside then buy the 360.
You said you have a job now, doesn't sound like you're getting fired anytime soon.
thedude_frombaywatch on
xbl tag: Dynamis King
MineCraft: Menetherin
Steam: Vloeza_SE++
Honestly though the same thing happened to the 360 in the first year, it is a weak point but it is something that will be corrected.
Yes it did, but it didn't have a PS3 or a Wii to go head to head with and quickly worked on addressing the games issue to make sure it could go head to head with rivals when they came out.
Actually, I was just expressing how it wasn't unexpected that the thread turned into a cock fight. It seems the original poster already made his decision, but we're still arguing which is better. We haven't had one in awhile, now that I think about it. Guess it's about time for that debate to surface again.
Far be it from me to stop you fighting. Go crazy.
I am still fairly undecided, both have their highlights. My main problem is that I am a Playstation fanboy, owned both 1 and 2 and loved them both. I want a PS3 for the backwards compatability and Metal Gear as well as feeling duty bound to buy Final Fantasy even if it doesn't look that good. However the 360 at the moment looks like a better deal. It has an immediate line up I want to play as opposed to the playstations admittedly great back catalogue from previous consoles as well as Live Arcade which is pretty fun if a bit weird on payments and a couple of AAA titles in a couple of months.
If I could I would be tempted to buy a 360 now and a PS3 later but it seems slightly extreme at the moment.
The problem is the Backwards Compatability of the PS3 will soon partially disappear. Software emulation is just not as good as hardware emulation. If BC is really important to you, and you think you'll get a PS3 eventually anyway, you may as well buy it now. The 360 will still be around when you're ready for a second console.
that's pretty much a moot point, especially considering the OP's in a non-emotion engine country to begin with. the ps3 software emulation is fine. i played through MGS3 only to later discover it was on the lowest level of compatibility - the only noticable problems were a corrupt save file and a little bit of slowdown in a couple of spots. nothing that made the game unplayable.
the biggest problem with software BC for the playstation is the stigma it has around places like this
Well that's good to hear. That was always one of my concerns with buying a PS3, since I want BC but have no way of affording the bloody thing this year. Guess the OP can buy the 360 first then
Yeah, I'll take the PSN games. For every Sonic or Doom theres 15 puzzle games.
Look closer DarkWarrior. Remove the Sony-brand goggles and look closer. Your ratio is... rather off.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
Geometry Wars
Assault Heroes
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Worms
Alien Hominid
Texas Hold'em (was free for a while)
Aegis Wing (free!)
Bomberman Live (best Bomberman game in years, and it's $10)
Uno
Prince of Persia Classic
Games I don't own but might pick up:
Sonic I&2
Streets of Rage II
Ecco the Dolphin
Space Giraffe
Contra
Carcassone
Catan
Pac-man Championship Edition
TMNT
Heavy Weapon
Doom
Marathon II
Cloning Clyde
The vast majority of that list are not Puzzle games. Jesus christ people.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
The Playstation Network has games that were designed specifically for the network. They are original games, not ports. Maybe that's where the confusion lies? I was expecting more original IP's.
360 is a good console which has a lot of sweet games out especially if you don't have a 3000$ computer
the controller is good, live is good, but it has a terrible life expectancy
the ps3 is a good console, it has a lot of sweet games coming out for it and some already out, PSN has better games than XBLA imho, remote play with PSP is sweet and downloading PSN games onto your PSP is also sweet, but you know, 500$ is still too much for some people
are we done here
now THIS guy's a shill.
because i defend both consoles evenly?
'Terrible life expectancy' slants things way past even.
I was kidding, of course, the whole shill thing is funny as hell.
Yeah, I'll take the PSN games. For every Sonic or Doom theres 15 puzzle games.
Look closer DarkWarrior. Remove the Sony-brand goggles and look closer. Your ratio is... rather off.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
Geometry Wars
Assault Heroes
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Worms
Alien Hominid
Texas Hold'em (was free for a while)
Aegis Wing (free!)
Bomberman Live (best Bomberman game in years, and it's $10)
Uno
Prince of Persia Classic
Games I don't own but might pick up:
Sonic I&2
Streets of Rage II
Ecco the Dolphin
Space Giraffe
Contra
Carcassone
Catan
Pac-man Championship Edition
TMNT
Heavy Weapon
Doom
Marathon II
Cloning Clyde
The vast majority of that list are not Puzzle games. Jesus christ people.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
The Playstation Network has games that were designed specifically for the network. They are original games, not ports. Maybe that's where the confusion lies? I was expecting more original IP's.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
The Playstation Network has games that were designed specifically for the network. They are original games, not ports. Maybe that's where the confusion lies? I was expecting more original IP's.
It's a mix. There are original games, there are straight up ports (like the Wii virtual console) there are straight ports with additional features (like network play), and there are total remakes (like the Pac Man CE).
I'd imagine with the PSN to go head to head with, you will see the size limitation removed and far more games released that will be much closer to full retail modern games.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
I think it's a universal rule of forums that after page 5 the trolls take over and any chance at reasonably discussing the issue at hand jumps ship.
Yeah, I'll take the PSN games. For every Sonic or Doom theres 15 puzzle games.
Look closer DarkWarrior. Remove the Sony-brand goggles and look closer. Your ratio is... rather off.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
Geometry Wars
Assault Heroes
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Worms
Alien Hominid
Texas Hold'em (was free for a while)
Aegis Wing (free!)
Bomberman Live (best Bomberman game in years, and it's $10)
Uno
Prince of Persia Classic
Games I don't own but might pick up:
Sonic I&2
Streets of Rage II
Ecco the Dolphin
Space Giraffe
Contra
Carcassone
Catan
Pac-man Championship Edition
TMNT
Heavy Weapon
Doom
Marathon II
Cloning Clyde
The vast majority of that list are not Puzzle games. Jesus christ people.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
The Playstation Network has games that were designed specifically for the network. They are original games, not ports. Maybe that's where the confusion lies? I was expecting more original IP's.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
I think it's a universal rule of forums that after page 5 the trolls take over and any chance at reasonably discussing the issue at hand jumps ship.
Especially those that have been on it since page 1 saying the same thing.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
I think it's a universal rule of forums that after page 5 the trolls take over and any chance at reasonably discussing the issue at hand jumps ship.
yeah totally, what's up with this guy and his 'fuck these threads' remark?
If you can't defend your argument that's fine, you can leave.
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
Why is my opinion irrelevant?
I forgot to mention that I could play Ecco on the PSP with the Genesis Collection along with plenty of other 'classics' if I so desire.
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
Why is my opinion irrelevant?
because you're being argumentative, arrogant and stupid and it's making the rest of us ps3 owners look bad?
look, you don't need to go on sony defense mode. the ps3 is strong enough that it can hold its own in a rational discussion without people going 'lol i haven't played those games but they suck, buy a ps3 yo'
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
Why is my opinion irrelevant?
because you're being argumentative, arrogant and stupid and it's making the rest of us ps3 owners look bad?
look, you don't need to go on sony defense mode. the ps3 is strong enough that it can hold its own in a rational discussion without people going 'lol i haven't played those games but they suck, buy a ps3 yo'
Yes, if I was writing like that I would agree with you that I sounded arrogant and stupid. But I'm not writing like that. I haven't said anything that I have not played before sucked. I said based on the description of games I had available to me, it seems as though the PSN games are of better quality, due to the fact that they are modern, original IP's and not simple arcade games, puzzle games, or ports of classic console games of the past.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
I think it's a universal rule of forums that after page 5 the trolls take over and any chance at reasonably discussing the issue at hand jumps ship.
yeah totally, what's up with this guy and his 'fuck these threads' remark?
If you can't defend your argument that's fine, you can leave.
I'll just say something to sum up why I said "fuck these threads." It's simple really.
You are not going to convince me that the Xbox 360 is a horrible console, and that the PS3 is undeniably superior. I am not going to convince you that the PS3 has some content issues, and for now is not worth a purchase. We could go back and forth in this fashion for 100 pages, and by the end we would A) feel exactly the same as we did before, and be 92 pages worth of pointless arguing more pissed off. You will never "win" an argument over the internet.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
Edit: There's a stereotype that people can't defend the PS3 without sounding like a jerk. You're not helping.
yeah totally, what's up with this guy and his 'fuck these threads' remark?
If you can't defend your argument that's fine, you can leave.
I'd be more inclined to support your positions if you left the tongue-in-cheek diminutions out. You make a lot of valid points about the PS3 which depending on someones position can be taken as either pros or cons.
XBLA vs. PSN is a major issue for someone that is looking for a new console and something that most people in that position will never bother to look into. So far XBLA is going more in the direction of a Virtual Console mixed with a Microsoft Game Zone/Casual games while PSN is focusing more on more full release size games/original IPs on their download network. Possible consumers should take this into account when deciding on their purchase.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
Edit: There's a stereotype that people can't defend the PS3 without sounding like a jerk. You're not helping.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
No, I am not slamming Live for offering Genesis games. I'm saying there seems to be more original games designed especially for the PS3 network than there are for the Xbox Live network, and Live has been around quite a bit longer. Things are taken out of context when a thread starts getting really long. If the Xbox Live Arcade offered the same amount of original titles as the PS3 had then of course I wouldn't mind there ALSO being Ecco the Dolphin. Hell, PSN has Q-Bert! If that's all there was I'd have a hard time defending that ;-)
yeah totally, what's up with this guy and his 'fuck these threads' remark?
If you can't defend your argument that's fine, you can leave.
I'd be more inclined to support your positions if you left the tongue-in-cheek diminutions out. You make a lot of valid points about the PS3 which depending on someones position can be taken as either pros or cons.
XBLA vs. PSN is a major issue for someone that is looking for a new console and something that most people in that position will never bother to look into. So far XBLA is going more in the direction of a Virtual Console mixed with a Microsoft Game Zone/Casual games while PSN is focusing more on more full release size games/original IPs on their download network. Possible consumers should take this into account when deciding on their purchase.
Very well put. I actually hadn't thought that someone on a penny arcade newsgroup would prefer casual games over original full release games.
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
Edit: There's a stereotype that people can't defend the PS3 without sounding like a jerk. You're not helping.
Crash Bandicoot > Ecco the Dolphin.
You know that!
Yeah, i agree with that. And then there's Q-bert ;-)
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
Edit: There's a stereotype that people can't defend the PS3 without sounding like a jerk. You're not helping.
People who try to defend the PS3 with valid arguments are shut down by the vast majority of people on here who are Xbox fans. You have to fight very hard to get your point across. I don't mind sounding like a jerk if I am getting valid points across and getting people to THINK for themselves and not jump on the xbox bandwagon because it's the 'cool' console.
This is why the iPod sells so well. A mob mentality begins to form when people stop thinking for themselves and choose the thing that is most popular. It feels good to have the thing that everyone else has. People feel uncomfortable when they aren't doing the socially acceptable thing.
You will not be at all surprised to know that I have a Zune, and have been on these forums defending its value in the past.
Some of us have jobs... and lives. You know... Where casual games come into play.
This coming from a guy with "Total Posts: 2,594 (20.72 posts per day)" - if you didnt' spend so much time posting on newsgroups you'd have more time to play some deep interesting games! :P
No, I am not slamming Live for offering Genesis games. I'm saying there seems to be more original games designed especially for the PS3 network than there are for the Xbox Live network, and Live has been around quite a bit longer. Things are taken out of context when a thread starts getting really long. If the Xbox Live Arcade offered the same amount of original titles as the PS3 had then of course I wouldn't mind there ALSO being Ecco the Dolphin. Hell, PSN has Q-Bert! If that's all there was I'd have a hard time defending that ;-)
Original games on the XBLA:
Aegis Wign
Assault Heroes
Boom Boom Rocket
Cloning Clyde
Pac-Man CE
Small Arms
Space Giraffe
TotemBall
Pinball FX
Novadrome
Street Trace
Band of Bugs
The main thing about the orignal games being made for XBLA are they mostly fall in the casual area like the rest of the games on XBLA
Posts
Sony sell goggles? Why was I not told of this sooner?
i know i am
The problem is the Backwards Compatability of the PS3 will soon partially disappear. Software emulation is just not as good as hardware emulation. If BC is really important to you, and you think you'll get a PS3 eventually anyway, you may as well buy it now. The 360 will still be around when you're ready for a second console.
Honestly though the same thing happened to the 360 in the first year, it is a weak point but it is something that will be corrected.
Dude, that list is huge and all I see are puzzle games also, so can you pick out maybe one or two that would be representative of the quality that you are referring to?
that's pretty much a moot point, especially considering the OP's in a non-emotion engine country to begin with. the ps3 software emulation is fine. i played through MGS3 only to later discover it was on the lowest level of compatibility - the only noticable problems were a corrupt save file and a little bit of slowdown in a couple of spots. nothing that made the game unplayable.
the biggest problem with software BC for the playstation is the stigma it has around places like this
woo
I know!! Oh man I feel so bad to get SO far in the game and just stop. I just... Took a break for too long, and now I don't remember what happens. I don't want to lose 20+ hours of my life!
Geometry Wars
Assault Heroes
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Worms
Alien Hominid
Texas Hold'em (was free for a while)
Aegis Wing (free!)
Bomberman Live (best Bomberman game in years, and it's $10)
Uno
Prince of Persia Classic
Games I don't own but might pick up:
Sonic I&2
Streets of Rage II
Ecco the Dolphin
Space Giraffe
Contra
Carcassone
Catan
Pac-man Championship Edition
TMNT
Heavy Weapon
Doom
Marathon II
Cloning Clyde
The vast majority of that list are not Puzzle games. Jesus christ people.
Just buy the PS3. This threads sounds more like you WANT a PS3 but you came and made a thread because you had lingering doubts about your purchase because thex360 noise is too loud to ignore.
Just buy the PS3. play all that you desire and if you still find yourself wondering and then later after the novelty wears off looking over the fence at the otherside then buy the 360.
You said you have a job now, doesn't sound like you're getting fired anytime soon.
MineCraft: Menetherin
Steam: Vloeza_SE++
Yes it did, but it didn't have a PS3 or a Wii to go head to head with and quickly worked on addressing the games issue to make sure it could go head to head with rivals when they came out.
Well that's good to hear. That was always one of my concerns with buying a PS3, since I want BC but have no way of affording the bloody thing this year. Guess the OP can buy the 360 first then
Oh, but aren't those all old games from like the Genesis days? Ecco the Dolphin? O_O
The Playstation Network has games that were designed specifically for the network. They are original games, not ports. Maybe that's where the confusion lies? I was expecting more original IP's.
'Terrible life expectancy' slants things way past even.
I was kidding, of course, the whole shill thing is funny as hell.
That'll do it for me then. I have a feeling that if I had listed 200 entirely original IPs, you would have come back at me with "but why doesn't it have wonderful classic games?" This is absolutely idiotic.
Fuck these threads.
To the OP: Look on Gamerankings/Metacritic for the top 30 games on each platform. Read through reviews for games you're interested in. Make your choice according to taste.
It's a mix. There are original games, there are straight up ports (like the Wii virtual console) there are straight ports with additional features (like network play), and there are total remakes (like the Pac Man CE).
I'd imagine with the PSN to go head to head with, you will see the size limitation removed and far more games released that will be much closer to full retail modern games.
The PSN one lists 25 titles originally created for the PS3. The rest are ports of some sort.
I can't count how many xbox arcade ones there are because the list doesn't distinguish between original IPs and ports.
Willie Tanner Livestream
No I wouldn't have.
I win.
Especially those that have been on it since page 1 saying the same thing.
This point, right here, is where your opinion became irrelavent.
yeah totally, what's up with this guy and his 'fuck these threads' remark?
If you can't defend your argument that's fine, you can leave.
Lewie... I've PLAYED Ecco the Dolphin... when I was a teenager, on my Genesis. I enjoyed it and remember it vividly. It's an old game that I don't need to play again, and I picked that particular one out of that list of games randomly.
Why is my opinion irrelevant?
Hypobole mostly...
I just love me some ecco.
I forgot to mention that I could play Ecco on the PSP with the Genesis Collection along with plenty of other 'classics' if I so desire.
because you're being argumentative, arrogant and stupid and it's making the rest of us ps3 owners look bad?
look, you don't need to go on sony defense mode. the ps3 is strong enough that it can hold its own in a rational discussion without people going 'lol i haven't played those games but they suck, buy a ps3 yo'
Yes, if I was writing like that I would agree with you that I sounded arrogant and stupid. But I'm not writing like that. I haven't said anything that I have not played before sucked. I said based on the description of games I had available to me, it seems as though the PSN games are of better quality, due to the fact that they are modern, original IP's and not simple arcade games, puzzle games, or ports of classic console games of the past.
I'll just say something to sum up why I said "fuck these threads." It's simple really.
You are not going to convince me that the Xbox 360 is a horrible console, and that the PS3 is undeniably superior. I am not going to convince you that the PS3 has some content issues, and for now is not worth a purchase. We could go back and forth in this fashion for 100 pages, and by the end we would A) feel exactly the same as we did before, and be 92 pages worth of pointless arguing more pissed off. You will never "win" an argument over the internet.
Enjoy your stay on the Penny Arcade forums.
What the? Dude, you just said a minute ago that one of the PS3's advantages is that you get to play PSOne games. And now you're slamming Live for offering Genesis games? O_o
Edit: There's a stereotype that people can't defend the PS3 without sounding like a jerk. You're not helping.
XBLA vs. PSN is a major issue for someone that is looking for a new console and something that most people in that position will never bother to look into. So far XBLA is going more in the direction of a Virtual Console mixed with a Microsoft Game Zone/Casual games while PSN is focusing more on more full release size games/original IPs on their download network. Possible consumers should take this into account when deciding on their purchase.
Willie Tanner Livestream
Crash Bandicoot > Ecco the Dolphin.
You know that!
No, I am not slamming Live for offering Genesis games. I'm saying there seems to be more original games designed especially for the PS3 network than there are for the Xbox Live network, and Live has been around quite a bit longer. Things are taken out of context when a thread starts getting really long. If the Xbox Live Arcade offered the same amount of original titles as the PS3 had then of course I wouldn't mind there ALSO being Ecco the Dolphin. Hell, PSN has Q-Bert! If that's all there was I'd have a hard time defending that ;-)
Very well put. I actually hadn't thought that someone on a penny arcade newsgroup would prefer casual games over original full release games.
Yeah, i agree with that. And then there's Q-bert ;-)
People who try to defend the PS3 with valid arguments are shut down by the vast majority of people on here who are Xbox fans. You have to fight very hard to get your point across. I don't mind sounding like a jerk if I am getting valid points across and getting people to THINK for themselves and not jump on the xbox bandwagon because it's the 'cool' console.
This is why the iPod sells so well. A mob mentality begins to form when people stop thinking for themselves and choose the thing that is most popular. It feels good to have the thing that everyone else has. People feel uncomfortable when they aren't doing the socially acceptable thing.
You will not be at all surprised to know that I have a Zune, and have been on these forums defending its value in the past.
This coming from a guy with "Total Posts: 2,594 (20.72 posts per day)" - if you didnt' spend so much time posting on newsgroups you'd have more time to play some deep interesting games! :P
Aegis Wign
Assault Heroes
Boom Boom Rocket
Cloning Clyde
Pac-Man CE
Small Arms
Space Giraffe
TotemBall
Pinball FX
Novadrome
Street Trace
Band of Bugs
The main thing about the orignal games being made for XBLA are they mostly fall in the casual area like the rest of the games on XBLA
Willie Tanner Livestream