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Tony Hawk's Proving Ground Demo, Out Now!

043043 Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
The demo for the next installment in Tony Hawk Pro Skater is out on the Xbox Live Marketplace, clocking in at 1.04GB.

Let the skate. comparisons begin!

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  • The CheeseThe Cheese Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It sucks.

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Downloading this as soon as I get home. I've been on board with the Tony Hawk games since the first (bought THPS 2 on three different systems), but it really started to go to shit with the THUG games. I didn't even bother with American Wasteland. Came back for Project 8 and liked it a lot, but it failed to have the infinite replayability of THPS 2 & 4. Skate is winning me over ... so we'll see.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can save about 200 posts of comparisons between skate by just saying skate is superior in nearly every possible category you measure a game.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yeah, I already have Project 8.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I can save about 200 posts of comparisons between skate by just saying skate is superior in nearly every possible category you measure a game.

    Have you played this new TH?

    I won't bother d/ling the demo since I just got P8 when it dropped to $20 over the weekend.
    I tried the skate demo and though it was pretty good, I really like the thumbstick controls. To me the two franchises can easily live side by side, much like PGR and Forza.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    A_ccualt wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I can save about 200 posts of comparisons between skate by just saying skate is superior in nearly every possible category you measure a game.

    Have you played this new TH?

    I won't bother d/ling the demo since I just got P8 when it dropped to $20 over the weekend.
    I tried the skate demo and though it was pretty good, I really like the thumbstick controls. To me the two franchises can easily live side by side, much like PGR and Forza.

    Thats a good analogy.

    Proving ground is definetly more arcadey than skate, and I think the realism of skate is a refreshing change for the genre (skating games natch!)

    problem is, proving grounds is so unrealistic in places (like ludicrous 100x combos) but tries to be super realistic in others (graphics, physics)
    It irks me.

    whereas in skate, you dont need to grind for 3 miles and rack up a billion point combo to be satisfied, because the game is so realistic pulling off even basic tricks like a simple grind or kickflip over a gap is satisfying.

    different strokes i guess, but having played skate and proving ground its like playing company of heroes and cnc3. while both are good one really does make the other seem very archaic and dumb.

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  • YardGnomeYardGnome Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    ...Wow, was Tony Hawk always this... bad?

    I've loved every other game in the series, but this one just seems awful.

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  • The CheeseThe Cheese Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    YardGnome wrote: »
    ...Wow, was Tony Hawk always this... bad?

    I've loved every other game in the series, but this one just seems awful.

    Nope, I swear to god it's worse than all the others. I might have to dust off some old ones to figure out if I'm right.

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  • 043043 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hell, I liked Project 8 more than that.

    I am ashamed of this thread, now.

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  • The CheeseThe Cheese Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It doesn't have an ollie animation.

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  • YardGnomeYardGnome Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The Cheese wrote: »
    It doesn't have an ollie animation.

    It does, just really

    fucking

    small

    I agree with you, the other ones were good.

    This one is some of the worst shit that has ever been shat.

    I like how they moved the camera over to be like skate, except in this game, IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK

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  • The CheeseThe Cheese Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    That ollie really would not work in real life. It looks ridiculous.

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  • GorkGork Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I didn't get a chance to play it very long, but, while on the board, the skater almost felt like a cannonball.


    Bleh.

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  • OmeksOmeks Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I haven't played the demo yet, so I'll reserve my judgment, but I pretty much already know what went wrong with this Tony Hawk.

    It's name is Guitar Hero III.

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  • schmadsschmads Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I loved Project 8, so I'm dismayed to be seeing the negative reactions to this next one. I'll give it a download once I get home, but maybe I should go grab the skate demo and give it a try. I like the over-the-topness of Tony Hawk because I'm not a real skater and am happy to go for the absurd, so that's not a problem, but if they fucked it up... D:

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Recommendation: get the DS version.

    That's where the good Tony Hawk games are.

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  • OmeksOmeks Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've played it for just a bit. I didn't complete everything, and from what I played, I think the extreme harshness is a bit exaggerated in this thread. It's not that bad.

    Even so, there is something distinctly disappointing in the game. I actually really liked Project 8, and something has been lost in the translation. I'm not happy with the "SKATE-cam" that they've essentially ripped off from SKATE. The new camera, as well as the controls, make it seem to control more tankishly, and the additions seem pretty weak, with just Nail the Grab (a cheap expansion off Nail the Trick that ends up being far more simple) and the little Aggro Kick-thing.

    I might buy it when it hits the bargain bin, but I was already on the fence about getting it this holiday season with all the other awesome crap coming out. Now I know I'm not going near it. Especially if I'm going to get SKATE and become accustomed to its controls (I'm so used to TH controls that I bailed all over the place while playing the SKATE demo).

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  • mescalitomescalito Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    horrible, nuff said

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Maybe they should stop coming out with a new damn Tony Hawk game every year. Put a two year development cycle on the next one, give it some time to marinate.

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  • walnutmonwalnutmon Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    LOLTonyHawk!

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Willeth wrote: »
    Recommendation: get the DS version.

    That's where the good Tony Hawk games are.

    was Downhill Jam any good? Skateland was awesome for some Tony Hawk action on the go.

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  • WoodroezWoodroez Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Willeth wrote: »
    Recommendation: get the DS version.

    That's where the good Tony Hawk games are.

    I would like to see you elaborate on this. I'll look a bit into it for myself, but what Tony Hawk DS games are there? I think Downhill Jam was on it...any others?

    I ask because I played THPS 2 on the GBA last night at my friend's apartment...and actually really enjoyed it.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Woodroez wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Recommendation: get the DS version.

    That's where the good Tony Hawk games are.

    I would like to see you elaborate on this. I'll look a bit into it for myself, but what Tony Hawk DS games are there? I think Downhill Jam was on it...any others?

    I ask because I played THPS 2 on the GBA last night at my friend's apartment...and actually really enjoyed it.

    American Sk8land and Downhill Jam

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  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Neversoft don't seem to know how to come up with new gameplay, they just come up with stupid gimmicks and bloat their game even further. From the looks of GH3 they've done the same thing but since the gameplay in Guitar Hero was so good in the first place, it looks like they haven't done much harm.

    This, though... I'm not a skater but I enjoyed the Skate demo and I've played most of the other TH games; Proving Ground is terrible. Too fast, difficult to control (like most Tony Hawk games have been, but it almost seems worse), it seemed really dark as well for some reason.

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Omeks wrote: »
    I've played it for just a bit. I didn't complete everything, and from what I played, I think the extreme harshness is a bit exaggerated in this thread. It's not that bad.

    Even so, there is something distinctly disappointing in the game.
    I agree. Including with the "exaggerated" and "not that bad" parts. People are being a little too harsh; this is what Tony Hawk games play like. Just like this.

    I liked the look, the chunk of city seemed good, the new style of game seems okay. Still plays smooth as hell. Still easy to jump into.

    But the controls now ring kind of stale; an expert in one, an expert in all. No change. It also lacks an intangible something, a tightness, that Project 8 had.

    If there is a criticism, it's that this is just another Tony Hawk game, but with new boards and a new gimmick. Otherswise, it feels like I've done this before. And if anything, THAT'S why I'm leaning towards Skate.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    DS games: admittedly I have a slight vested interest - I'm a volunteer moderator on their online community - but both of them are pretty fun. They make no bones about it being an arcade-style game, it's all over the top and ridiculous, with the cel-shaded look really helping to take the edge off. I found Sk8land much better to play than Downhill Jam, but the online component is what really makes the game special.
    You can draw your own graffiti on the DS screen and upload it to the community to be rated - others can download yours and use it on their DS. New goals get released for the game regularly after launch, which I think have only recently stopped being updated because THPG is out in the next month or so. There's unlockables that get unlocked by milestones in online play - if 10,000 people play online at the same time, for example. Admittedly the forum is full of preteens, but the reason I love it so much is because I haven't got a sense of community like this out of any other game - it's probably an exaggeration to compare it to what the 360's Dashboard feels like, but yeah.
    Oh, and online play with voice chat.

    Check out some of this graffiti. All done on the DS screen, no PCs involved, mind.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    bloody hell! that's some impressive work.

    I think the skate community, at least what we've got forming here on PA, is going to be good. So far, i've loved going into the demo, skating around, finding something, then coming back here to show it off. I imagine the THPG stuff is going to do the same, and more power to them.

    It's funny, when these video replay features were announced for upcoming games (Halo 3 being the first i can remember, but skate too), with the emphasis on 'community', i really wasn't interested. I already know what i've just done, i'm more concerned with playing the game than watching it again. After actually using it, seeing what you can do with the features, and since i don't really expect to know anyone i play in matchmaking stuff, there's not a lot of discussion of events i'd care to do with them. Then after saving a couple of films and coming on here to discuss them, i can see the gold in them thar seams. For Halo, it was a case of "man, this awesomely funny thing happened, check it out" (and Willeth, was it you who got that awesome VIP splatter kill on the last night of the beta?), and for skate, it's "check out this line i found", and that's going to be huge when the full thing hits, and people explore the city. I'm really curious to see THPG's angle on this.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    the skate DEMO thread is like 45 pages. a lot of it is people posting their lines and gaps from the skate reel and discussing others.

    that is what skating games have needed since like ever. halo, not so much. i imagine nearly all halo 3 replays will fall into 2 groups

    funny death
    amazingly lucky shot

    with skate and thps you can really show off your skills rather than your luck.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    the skate DEMO thread is like 45 pages. a lot of it is people posting their lines and gaps from the skate reel and discussing others.

    that is what skating games have needed since like ever. halo, not so much. i imagine nearly all halo 3 replays will fall into 2 groups

    funny death
    amazingly lucky shot

    with skate and thps you can really show off your skills rather than your luck.
    I think you forgot about really good team games (H3 isn't limited to 30 seconds, yknow), forge shenanigans, and being able to watch your last match from any angle to figure out how your opponent got the drop on you.

    Don't get me wrong, skate. having this feature is absolutely awesome. But i think Halo can benefit from it just as well.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    one of the things i'm looking forward to with skate, is actually trying to make a somewhat authentic skate video. I'm curious if Proving Ground's going to be able to do the same thing. The camera and replay controls look more in-depth, but (and this isn't a cheap shot on the actual game and animation itself) the way the game's meant to be played, with multiple tricks and massive combos, i wonder how well that'll translate to replays and videos. I'm not knocking it until i've seen what people do, but i don't know how well it's going to come over.

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  • .la1n.la1n Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I loved the first and second THPS but this demo is not good, that's not comparing it to Skate - that's just comparing it to good games in general. Let's all have a moment of silence for the Tony Hawk franchise as EA continues it's satanic domination.

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  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    They just need to reboot the franchise at this point. Bring it back to square one. Bring the "Pro Skater" part back to the series and just focus on skating. I don't want to aggro kick or ollie off a pile of bull shit or kickflip over a bum or anything. I just want to skate.

    If Skate 2 manages to get a better camera and include all of the tricks that the original is missing (flatland, handplants, etc), god help the TH franchise.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    syndalis wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    the skate DEMO thread is like 45 pages. a lot of it is people posting their lines and gaps from the skate reel and discussing others.

    that is what skating games have needed since like ever. halo, not so much. i imagine nearly all halo 3 replays will fall into 2 groups

    funny death
    amazingly lucky shot

    with skate and thps you can really show off your skills rather than your luck.
    I think you forgot about really good team games (H3 isn't limited to 30 seconds, yknow), forge shenanigans, and being able to watch your last match from any angle to figure out how your opponent got the drop on you.

    Don't get me wrong, skate. having this feature is absolutely awesome. But i think Halo can benefit from it just as well.

    Oh no doubt. But in terms of posting videos to share on boards, skate has more draw than Halo 3 for the reasons I said. Halo 3 will be funny death/lucky shot and not much else.

    high profile clan games or MLG games shown will be awesome for sure, and the fact that Bungie humpdays will no longer be a writeup but a video is amazing, but with skate sharing a video is sharing information, about a line, or idea for trick combo, or a gap, or a type of trick to do.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    my point with bringing it up, was that in all the games, it was a feature i didn't really much care for until i got my hands on it, then after seeing how it works, there's a lot of evident potential. The application across these games is all different, and i'm curious to see what THPG players find to do with it, and how that takes off.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    and Willeth, was it you who got that awesome VIP splatter kill on the last night of the beta?

    Haha yeah that was hilarious. I still have it saved on my hard drive just in case beta videos are viewable in the full version. They've said they won't be. BUT STILL.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    i should've kept it, but the beta was taking up 1gb of space that could be packed with demos. If it should work, i'm gonna need a copy 'cos that was one of the best things i've seen.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Oh, I deleted the beta itself. The videos are stored somewhere differently, though.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hopefully TH10 will do the smart thing and, instead of trying to compete with skate by becoming more realistic, will just become even more over the top and stylized.
    Trying to go hardcore realistic will turn off some of the series fans and create further comparisons to skate. There really isn't anything to gain by doing that. Some of my favorite levels from previous Tony Hawk's were the absurd ones, like Area 51 or Tokyo. They should also, like others have mentioned, stop putting out a new title every year.

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  • KwornKworn Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The game sucks so bad it hurts.

    I have played hours and ours of skate with the new controls and now within Tony Hawk I cant pull off shit.

    Anyone else find this? Also what a stepdown from the previous version.

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  • KwornKworn Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    043 wrote: »
    Hell, I liked Project 8 more than that.

    I am ashamed of this thread, now.

    Yeh Project 8 is 100% better. I like where they went with it.

    Was this new one designed by a different team or something?

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