Final Fantasy VII: End the Catastrophically-bad games
Hmm, did you mean to insult FFVII? I can't tell, because, grammatically, you actually insulted every FF prior to VII. Maybe that's what you meant, but, if so, it's a pretty unpopular stance.
The rumors persist that Sony is going to announce a major 3rd party game in their conference (which, if I understand correctly, is tonight at 4:30am est) that has been personally funded by them.
Honestly, what else could it be? Set yourself up for dissapointment, but get excited nontheless.
EDIT: Make that around 4:00am est. I'm staying up for that. If anything actually pops up, please post it here instead of a seperate thread.
If they announce a PS3 remake of FFVII tonight (and that's what the EC title ends up being), they've sold me a PS3. All my post-Rock Band funds will be diverted to the purchase of a PS3 ASAP.
The de-evilizing of Rufus and the Turks kinda throws that out the window
I'm pretty sure the Turks were de-evilized within the game itself.
Exactly it. It's just a job to them. No good or evil intentions.
Well they do a good job of making it seem like the Turks have bad intentions, because they try to kick your ass quite a few times.
As their job/mission requires.
Are you really suggesting that killing hundreds (probably more if we take into account that it was a slum and Midgar is supposed to be some mega city) of innocent people like they did when they destroyed the plate support was okay, 'cuz hay, iz jus a job rite guyz?
Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
I didn't say it's "okay", a lot of the things the Turks do aren't "okay." But I would imagine that working in an organization which just works for the highest bidder (which in their world is perpetually Shinra, Inc.), you'd have to be fine with doing things in the morally grey area.
So to them, it's okay.
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I guess Atlus aren't major enough to be that third party, but I can hope.
The de-evilizing of Rufus and the Turks kinda throws that out the window
I'm pretty sure the Turks were de-evilized within the game itself.
Exactly it. It's just a job to them. No good or evil intentions.
Well they do a good job of making it seem like the Turks have bad intentions, because they try to kick your ass quite a few times.
As their job/mission requires.
Are you really suggesting that killing hundreds (probably more if we take into account that it was a slum and Midgar is supposed to be some mega city) of innocent people like they did when they destroyed the plate support was okay, 'cuz hay, iz jus a job rite guyz?
Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
I didn't say it's "okay", a lot of the things the Turks do aren't "okay." But I would imagine that working in an organization which just works for the highest bidder (which in their world is perpetually Shinra, Inc.), you'd have to be fine with doing things in the morally grey area.
So to them, it's okay.
The point I'm trying to get across is that the Turks are hardly "de-evilized" within the game unless you give no thought to anything but your immediate present.
The turks are bafoons. Sorry, they simply aren't evil, imposing villains. They are like the game's comic relief. The bumbling law enforcement officer who's always out to get the clever thief, but is too inept to ever do so.
From the eyes of the player, no, they're hardly de-evilized.
How are they any less evil from the character's perspective? Tifa and Barret notably, who saw many close friends and the entire Sector they were living out of annihilated by the Turks? Regardless of their goofy shit later in the game, the fact remains that they are unabashed murderers.
Prior to that they behaved as evil/amoral mercenaries do, except under permanent employ of Shinra.
Not totally true. Yes, their eccentricity was more emphasized and a bit exaggerated in AC, but even in the original game they couldn't be taken all that seriously. More serious than AC, yes, but they were still more like Team Rocket crossed with the hitmen from Pulp Fiction.
If they announce a PS3 remake of FFVII tonight (and that's what the EC title ends up being), they've sold me a PS3. All my post-Rock Band funds will be diverted to the purchase of a PS3 ASAP.
As much as the idea excites me, you do realize that even if it is announced right now, it'd likely be out sometime after FFXIII, no?
It's not like you'd need to have a PS3 immediately.
If they announce a PS3 remake of FFVII tonight (and that's what the EC title ends up being), they've sold me a PS3. All my post-Rock Band funds will be diverted to the purchase of a PS3 ASAP.
As much as the idea excites me, you do realize that even if it is announced right now, it'd likely be out sometime after FFXIII, no?
It's not like you'd need to have a PS3 immediately.
PS3 has a bunch of "support" games for me like Uncharted, etc., but no system-seller. But once the system-seller is confirmed, I'd buy the system and enjoy those support games.
If they then cancelled it...well fuck, I don't know what I'd do.
The rumors persist that Sony is going to announce a major 3rd party game in their conference (which, if I understand correctly, is tonight at 4:30am est) that has been personally funded by them.
Honestly, what else could it be? Set yourself up for dissapointment, but get excited nontheless.
EDIT: Make that around 4:00am est. I'm staying up for that. If anything actually pops up, please post it here instead of a seperate thread.
So is any site covering this? 1up, perhaps? Another live-blogging?
No idea, there hasn't been any confirmation if the keynote is going to be blogged at all. Some major announcements could be made, and it would be embargoed until TGS is over.
As soon as a link or something comes up, you'll be the first to know.
All this talk about the Turks makes me want the remake done even more.
The first church scene, in particular, rendered in full 3D glory with full voice-acting.
"Hey, you just stepped on the flowers!"
"They're all ruined!"
"You're gonna catch holy hell!"
Please... no shitty japanese-ified voice acting. I don't think hollywood could do it right, and I know Square wouldn't... There is nothing worse than the weak pussy boy voice of any of the heroes in any of thier movies... FF:AC had shit voice acting, for example... do you remember what Barrett sounded like?
Unless they get known American actors and actresses--known at least to someone in the acting field-- I don't want to hear any voices in that game, AT ALL... I also don't want strangely segmented monsters like those in AC. That final monster looked more like a crappy transformer than anything else. Oh yeah... and Square, when you stab something, the sword goes IN to what you stab.
Thanks.
I love FF7, and I can see an update fucking it up... I would buy it though.
No idea, there hasn't been any confirmation if the keynote is going to be blogged at all. Some major announcements could be made, and it would be embargoed until TGS is over.
As soon as a link or something comes up, you'll be the first to know.
Are you sure about that? A post over a Neogaf says it's later on:
Kaz Hirai keynote times:
The keynote starts at September 20th: 10:30am in Japan ( kyoto ):
GMT ( not for UK/Irish people): 1:30am (GMT+0)
BST ( for all people living in UK and Ireland): 2:30am (GMT+1)
CEST ( Amsterdam/Paris/Berlin/Rome etc ): 3:30am (GMT+2)
New Zealand: 13:30(pm) (GMT+12)
AUS Sydney: 11.30am (GMT+10)
USA NY: Sept 19th: 21.30(pm) (GMT-4)
USA LA: Sept 19th: 18.30(pm) (GMT-7)
All this talk about the Turks makes me want the remake done even more.
The first church scene, in particular, rendered in full 3D glory with full voice-acting.
"Hey, you just stepped on the flowers!"
"They're all ruined!"
"You're gonna catch holy hell!"
Please... no shitty japanese-ified voice acting. I don't think hollywood could do it right, and I know Square wouldn't... There is nothing worse than the weak pussy boy voice of any of the heroes in any of thier movies... FF:AC had shit voice acting, for example... do you remember what Barrett sounded like?
Unless they get known American actors and actresses--known at least to someone in the acting field-- I don't want to hear any voices in that game, AT ALL... I also don't want strangely segmented monsters like those in AC. That final monster looked more like a crappy transformer than anything else. Oh yeah... and Square, when you stab something, the sword goes IN to what you stab.
Thanks.
I love FF7, and I can see an update fucking it up... I would buy it though.
No, fuck that. If you want an FFVII without voice acting, play the original. Final Fantasies have voice-acting now. If they half-ass a remake they may as well not do one at all.
Not only will a FFVII remake have voices, it'll probably be the same people used for AC, DoC, Kingdom Hearts 2, and are going to be used for Crisis Core, both on the English and Japanese side. Square's being very consistent about voice actors on both sides of the ocean.
No idea, there hasn't been any confirmation if the keynote is going to be blogged at all. Some major announcements could be made, and it would be embargoed until TGS is over.
As soon as a link or something comes up, you'll be the first to know.
Are you sure about that? A post over a Neogaf says it's later on:
Kaz Hirai keynote times:
The keynote starts at September 20th: 10:30am in Japan ( kyoto ):
GMT ( not for UK/Irish people): 1:30am (GMT+0)
BST ( for all people living in UK and Ireland): 2:30am (GMT+1)
CEST ( Amsterdam/Paris/Berlin/Rome etc ): 3:30am (GMT+2)
New Zealand: 13:30(pm) (GMT+12)
AUS Sydney: 11.30am (GMT+10)
USA NY: Sept 19th: 21.30(pm) (GMT-4)
USA LA: Sept 19th: 18.30(pm) (GMT-7)
It's perfect for me anyway, 1.30pm.
I don't know, right now there are several idiots staying up in GAF expecting something to be announced now, but I've been getting mixed reports about either an embargo, or that the keynote is supposed to start the next day.
And here's the rumor going around again.
Dont know if this is old but i just read this from PSU
The hype train has now reached full speed with the latest issue of Famitsu, a popular Japanese gaming magazine, hinting at a possible Final Fantasy VII remake.
From the translation, Famitsu states, "A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow."
Will all the recent rumors hitting the net lately, we can only assume they are talking about Square Enix and Final Fantasy VII (Whether or not the speculated Endless Crisis: Final Fantasy VII reported yesterday is a separate project or not is unknown, though it may simply just be the full title for a proposed remake)
Also, according to rumor, whatever this new title is from Square Enix, it is being fully funded by Sony
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
All this talk about the Turks makes me want the remake done even more.
The first church scene, in particular, rendered in full 3D glory with full voice-acting.
"Hey, you just stepped on the flowers!"
"They're all ruined!"
"You're gonna catch holy hell!"
Please... no shitty japanese-ified voice acting. I don't think hollywood could do it right, and I know Square wouldn't... There is nothing worse than the weak pussy boy voice of any of the heroes in any of thier movies... FF:AC had shit voice acting, for example... do you remember what Barrett sounded like?
Unless they get known American actors and actresses--known at least to someone in the acting field-- I don't want to hear any voices in that game, AT ALL... I also don't want strangely segmented monsters like those in AC. That final monster looked more like a crappy transformer than anything else. Oh yeah... and Square, when you stab something, the sword goes IN to what you stab.
Thanks.
I love FF7, and I can see an update fucking it up... I would buy it though.
Oh come on when you played FF7 did you not imagine Barret having a voice like Mr T's?
Dont know if this is old but i just read this from PSU
The hype train has now reached full speed with the latest issue of Famitsu, a popular Japanese gaming magazine, hinting at a possible Final Fantasy VII remake.
From the translation, Famitsu states, "A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow."
Will all the recent rumors hitting the net lately, we can only assume they are talking about Square Enix and Final Fantasy VII (Whether or not the speculated Endless Crisis: Final Fantasy VII reported yesterday is a separate project or not is unknown, though it may simply just be the full title for a proposed remake)
Also, according to rumor, whatever this new title is from Square Enix, it is being fully funded by Sony
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
Unless Sony/Square lets us down first.
I suppose it would be way too much for me to hope for a new Chrono game in these circumstances, huh?
Dont know if this is old but i just read this from PSU
The hype train has now reached full speed with the latest issue of Famitsu, a popular Japanese gaming magazine, hinting at a possible Final Fantasy VII remake.
From the translation, Famitsu states, "A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow."
Will all the recent rumors hitting the net lately, we can only assume they are talking about Square Enix and Final Fantasy VII (Whether or not the speculated Endless Crisis: Final Fantasy VII reported yesterday is a separate project or not is unknown, though it may simply just be the full title for a proposed remake)
Also, according to rumor, whatever this new title is from Square Enix, it is being fully funded by Sony
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
Unless Sony/Square lets us down first.
I suppose it would be way too much for me to hope for a new Chrono game in these circumstances, huh?
Does Square even still have most of the staff that was involved in CT?
Dont know if this is old but i just read this from PSU
The hype train has now reached full speed with the latest issue of Famitsu, a popular Japanese gaming magazine, hinting at a possible Final Fantasy VII remake.
From the translation, Famitsu states, "A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow."
Will all the recent rumors hitting the net lately, we can only assume they are talking about Square Enix and Final Fantasy VII (Whether or not the speculated Endless Crisis: Final Fantasy VII reported yesterday is a separate project or not is unknown, though it may simply just be the full title for a proposed remake)
Also, according to rumor, whatever this new title is from Square Enix, it is being fully funded by Sony
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
Unless Sony/Square lets us down first.
I suppose it would be way too much for me to hope for a new Chrono game in these circumstances, huh?
Does Square even still have most of the staff that was involved in CT?
I'm not sure about all the staff, but I do know they still employ all three directors of the game (Kitase, Tokita and Matsui), as well as Kazuhiko Aoki. I can't imagine Sakaguchi would be a huge loss since his title for the development was just as 'supervisor' and Uematsu only composed a small amount of songs for the soundtrack.
I'm also looking down the credits list and seeing a few familiar names. Nomura, Ito and Matsueda all popped out.
Dont know if this is old but i just read this from PSU
The hype train has now reached full speed with the latest issue of Famitsu, a popular Japanese gaming magazine, hinting at a possible Final Fantasy VII remake.
From the translation, Famitsu states, "A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow."
Will all the recent rumors hitting the net lately, we can only assume they are talking about Square Enix and Final Fantasy VII (Whether or not the speculated Endless Crisis: Final Fantasy VII reported yesterday is a separate project or not is unknown, though it may simply just be the full title for a proposed remake)
Also, according to rumor, whatever this new title is from Square Enix, it is being fully funded by Sony
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
Unless Sony/Square lets us down first.
I suppose it would be way too much for me to hope for a new Chrono game in these circumstances, huh?
Well, we know that there are two things japanese gamers eat up like candy and that's Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest - considering Dragon Quest we know is out due to the recent DS endeavor I suppose the survey says...
Final Fantasy VII: End the Catastrophically-bad games
Hmm, did you mean to insult FFVII? I can't tell, because, grammatically, you actually insulted every FF prior to VII. Maybe that's what you meant, but, if so, it's a pretty unpopular stance.
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The former, and oh well if it's unpopular. Could care less.
That's entirely debatable. The Chrono series is massively popular, and if anything a new Chrono game is necessary to wrap up the immense amount of loose ends left after both CT and CC.
Edit: No mention of a new chrono game here, or I'll personally punch your face in.
It can wait after the FFVII remake, for its turn.
No, I'm sorry, a new Chrono game would be FAR more worth it compared to an FFVII remake, by far.
BY FAR.
While I agree that it's about time for some Chrono Lovin', I want a FFVII remake more. Also, I'd like to see VIII remade. Then, my number 1 "square shud do dis" ranting will be for a new chrono game.
I've gotta admit, I'd kill for a FFVII remake. It really wasn't my favorite in the series, but if any game in the franchise needed a remake, it'd be 7. To me, it's virtually unplayable - and yes, I'll say that would be because of the graphics. This game has aged unbelievably badly. FFVII with AC graphics would be astounding.
But besides that. FVII had a great setting and pretty good story, and I'd love to see that fleshed out.
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Honestly, what else could it be? Set yourself up for dissapointment, but get excited nontheless.
EDIT: Make that around 4:00am est. I'm staying up for that. If anything actually pops up, please post it here instead of a seperate thread.
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If they announce a PS3 remake of FFVII tonight (and that's what the EC title ends up being), they've sold me a PS3. All my post-Rock Band funds will be diverted to the purchase of a PS3 ASAP.
I didn't say it's "okay", a lot of the things the Turks do aren't "okay." But I would imagine that working in an organization which just works for the highest bidder (which in their world is perpetually Shinra, Inc.), you'd have to be fine with doing things in the morally grey area.
So to them, it's okay.
The point I'm trying to get across is that the Turks are hardly "de-evilized" within the game unless you give no thought to anything but your immediate present.
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How are they any less evil from the character's perspective? Tifa and Barret notably, who saw many close friends and the entire Sector they were living out of annihilated by the Turks? Regardless of their goofy shit later in the game, the fact remains that they are unabashed murderers.
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Prior to that they behaved as evil/amoral mercenaries do, except under permanent employ of Shinra.
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Not totally true. Yes, their eccentricity was more emphasized and a bit exaggerated in AC, but even in the original game they couldn't be taken all that seriously. More serious than AC, yes, but they were still more like Team Rocket crossed with the hitmen from Pulp Fiction.
The first church scene, in particular, rendered in full 3D glory with full voice-acting.
"Hey, you just stepped on the flowers!"
"They're all ruined!"
"You're gonna catch holy hell!"
As much as the idea excites me, you do realize that even if it is announced right now, it'd likely be out sometime after FFXIII, no?
It's not like you'd need to have a PS3 immediately.
PS3 has a bunch of "support" games for me like Uncharted, etc., but no system-seller. But once the system-seller is confirmed, I'd buy the system and enjoy those support games.
If they then cancelled it...well fuck, I don't know what I'd do.
So is any site covering this? 1up, perhaps? Another live-blogging?
As soon as a link or something comes up, you'll be the first to know.
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Please... no shitty japanese-ified voice acting. I don't think hollywood could do it right, and I know Square wouldn't... There is nothing worse than the weak pussy boy voice of any of the heroes in any of thier movies... FF:AC had shit voice acting, for example... do you remember what Barrett sounded like?
Unless they get known American actors and actresses--known at least to someone in the acting field-- I don't want to hear any voices in that game, AT ALL... I also don't want strangely segmented monsters like those in AC. That final monster looked more like a crappy transformer than anything else. Oh yeah... and Square, when you stab something, the sword goes IN to what you stab.
Thanks.
I love FF7, and I can see an update fucking it up... I would buy it though.
Are you sure about that? A post over a Neogaf says it's later on:
It's perfect for me anyway, 1.30pm.
No, fuck that. If you want an FFVII without voice acting, play the original. Final Fantasies have voice-acting now. If they half-ass a remake they may as well not do one at all.
I don't know, right now there are several idiots staying up in GAF expecting something to be announced now, but I've been getting mixed reports about either an embargo, or that the keynote is supposed to start the next day.
And here's the rumor going around again.
So I guess I'll just check back around noonish and see if anything cropped up. This thread is the first place I'm looking, so don't let me down folks.
Unless Sony/Square lets us down first.
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Oh come on when you played FF7 did you not imagine Barret having a voice like Mr T's?
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I dunno about AC, since I never listened to the English VA, but the Japanese was just fine.
I suppose it would be way too much for me to hope for a new Chrono game in these circumstances, huh?
Edit: No mention of a new chrono game here, or I'll personally punch your face in.
It can wait after the FFVII remake, for its turn.
I'm not sure how much it would gain. It still looks incredible, turning it into 3D might make it lose a lot of its charm.
Perhaps if they went in the direction of Street Fighter and resharpen the scenery and characters rather than a total 3D overhaul that might work.
Does Square even still have most of the staff that was involved in CT?
I'm not sure about all the staff, but I do know they still employ all three directors of the game (Kitase, Tokita and Matsui), as well as Kazuhiko Aoki. I can't imagine Sakaguchi would be a huge loss since his title for the development was just as 'supervisor' and Uematsu only composed a small amount of songs for the soundtrack.
I'm also looking down the credits list and seeing a few familiar names. Nomura, Ito and Matsueda all popped out.
Well, we know that there are two things japanese gamers eat up like candy and that's Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest - considering Dragon Quest we know is out due to the recent DS endeavor I suppose the survey says...
The former, and oh well if it's unpopular. Could care less.
No, I'm sorry, a new Chrono game would be FAR more worth it compared to an FFVII remake, by far.
BY FAR.
Yeah, but supposedly this new game would "save the PS3".
The Chrono series, while good, won't save shit.
While I agree that it's about time for some Chrono Lovin', I want a FFVII remake more. Also, I'd like to see VIII remade. Then, my number 1 "square shud do dis" ranting will be for a new chrono game.
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That quote was made immensely better since I read your title immediately afterwards.
But besides that. FVII had a great setting and pretty good story, and I'd love to see that fleshed out.
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