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Has anybody suggested this forum before? There seems to be a sizeable group of people with varying programming skills. And since these forums center around gaming they could be a great place for a game/mod/general programming forum.
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Personally speaking, I don't know that an actual forum is needed, but it could be cool to have an arrangement like the MMO subforum.
Just my opinion, of course.
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Mostly the idea was to strip anything useful out of the main H&A forum and leave it entirely free for kitten and tattoo threads....
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This is the biggest problem with this idea. I like the principle, but I don't think it'll work in the execution.
On the other hand, for most situations, only a few people on the board are even qualified to answer.
There is definately a propensity for web site/programming related questions in H/A, and certainly there are modders and game writers floating around here.
If it happened, I would support it.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
PA has a nice balance, where anyone can come and find a forum where they can discuss whatever it is they want to discuss, and get a variety of responses from every kind of person.
That's a slippery slope argument. Granted this isn't D&D, but you should probably try to avoid logical fallacies anyway.
That said, while I personally would enjoy a programming forum I honestly don't think there's enough of a demand to justify it. We get maybe a few programming threads a month in H/A and G&T, and while a subforum would undoubtedly spawn more (as oDaM/CF did) I don't think it would be enough.
None of the posts here have given a good reason to add a programming forum. Why not a sports forum, or an underwater basketweaving forum? I was simply saying that programming isn't special. What benefit would there be to have a programming forum, rather than just making a thread in H/A, D&D, or G&T?
Yes, if you add a special interest forum and don't have a good reason to do it over another special interest, there will be relentless whining to add other forums.
And, like you said, programming isn't special. So it wouldn't be a special interest forum now would it?
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Damn you and your pointing out of flaws in my wording.
Yes there's less traffic than sports or whatever, but as a topic that covers a lot of old ground and usually involves answers which are quite involved and relevant months later, you can see what I'm getting at.
Regardless the majority of people around here don't seem to be programming orientated so I can't see the justification.
More people are than you think, it's just that there's no place for programming topics or even really technical discussion topics to go anymore. G&T is all "Games Games Games" until a really interesting news tidbit comes along about hardware/software/programming/operating systems, then after everyone is done giving their input on it (usually either "OH COOL I SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT" or "Why would I use this when I have X?") they go back to talking about games and the thread dies.
It's unfortunate because the majority of the posts I made in G&T (pre-H/A) were tech related and I miss it being as big a part of the forum as it was. It was never overwhelming, but tech topics lasted a hell of a lot longer than they do now.
though if anyone knows OS/390 or similar IBM mainframe assembler language and wants to discuss instructions and debugging I will be your best friend.
To be honest, though, while G&T generally doesn't get a lot of programming threads, did it get a lot of tabletop threads before Of Dice and Men/Critical Failures was created? How many MMO threads did we have on a regular basis before the MMO subforum went in? Not many, as I remember. It seems to me that if a new subforum was created for programming, there would be enough people on the board with knowledge related to it that there could be a decent amount of threads at any given time.
However, having a sprawling number of forums is cool and all, but this isn't GameFaqs. We seem to be doing pretty well with the amount of forums we have now.
Pros and cons aside, I think it would be a great idea.
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Whoever the dude was that was so interested in the idea will just have to wait until the next Forum Crisis where we get a new admin and try again.
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because I mean if that is your goal congratulations you are well on your way to fulfilling it
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I wanted to ask Tube and the admin staff if they are still set on this not happening, and also reframe the suggestion as follows:
Would this be possible if we didn't focus it on the technical/problem-solving side and instead framed it as a Game Development subforum? I think it would be lovely if we had something on the order of the Artist's Corner or Writer's Block where we could critique and discuss each other's work, and generally have a good time discussing the hobby and business of developing games. It has been fun doing this to some extent in the XNA Community Games thread, and I would love to do it on a larger scale.
To plead the case for it, my reasoning is that we have a forum about writing and a forum about creating visual art, both of which pretty clearly tie in with PA; games are the third pillar, and while we do discuss them, we don't have much chance to discuss making them. I think the atmosphere in G&T is not really conducive to this because posting about your own game is against the rules and generally comes across as spam/advertising. Other threads do trend toward game criticism, but not on the constructive level so much as the level of a bystander arguing for or against a popular game. You don't really get the same atmosphere as in, say, the Artist's Corner where somebody can post their work and get very frank, constructive thoughts about it, or the thoughtful threads about the techniques involved in game design.
That said, I can appreciate that forum bloat is something the mods and admins would like to avoid. If the answer is still no, then that's cool, I just wanted to bring it up and see if there was any change in feelings on the matter, or if reframing the subject of the forum would impact the issue.
By comparison there are way more posts about WoW (for example) and that doesn't have a separate subforum. There was one for a few months after release, but that's because those topics would have flooded the other subforums if there hadn't been. That's not the case for game programming and the like, and a couple threads can handle the load quite well.