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Democratic Debate: Round 24 And A Half

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Talous wrote: »
    Hillary Clinton just said she's against ''The rush to war with Iran."

    What the fuck does that mean?

    Thats why she voted for the war authorization with Iran

    OH YEAHHH.

    God I fucking hate her so much.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    "We cannot permit Iran to use nuclear weapons."

    Way to go out on a limb there, Richardson.

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    The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    geckahn wrote: »
    Talous wrote: »
    Hillary Clinton just said she's against ''The rush to war with Iran."

    What the fuck does that mean?

    Thats why she voted for the war authorization with Iran

    OH YEAHHH.

    God I fucking hate her so much.

    Thank God Edwards called her out on it. All I could think about during her entire answer was "But you just voted for war authorization! You voted for it! Gods fuck damn, shut up!".

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    One more person says carrot and sticks...I'm going to...eat some carrots...and sticks. Alright, that didn't make any sense, but it's still a stupid phrase they've said three times in the last three minutes.

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    geckahn wrote: »
    Talous wrote: »
    Hillary Clinton just said she's against ''The rush to war with Iran."

    What the fuck does that mean?

    Thats why she voted for the war authorization with Iran

    OH YEAHHH.

    God I fucking hate her so much.

    Thank God Edwards called her out on it. All I could think about during her entire answer was "But you just voted for war authorization! You voted for it! Gods fuck damn, shut up!".

    I was saying something along the lines of, "shut the fuck up you stupid bitch" and "I hope you die in a fire"

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    That was a stupid question. Please someone tell him that's a stupid fucking question.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2007
    Go-bama! Go-Bama!

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Are there commercials during this thing? I need more beer...

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    <3 Dodd and Biden

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Did Biden just suggest he'd attack Pakistan before Iran? And then have Dodd back him up on it?

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    The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Every time Biden brings context and nuance into foreign policy answers, I get a funny feeling in my pants.

    Richardson, on the other hand.......

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    jotate wrote: »
    Did Biden just suggest he'd attack Pakistan before Iran? And then have Dodd back him up on it?

    They said it was more of an issue. Something I completely agree with.

    I don't think people really appreciate how close to being completely unstable that country is.

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    TalousTalous Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    geckahn wrote: »
    Talous wrote: »
    Hillary Clinton just said she's against ''The rush to war with Iran."

    What the fuck does that mean?

    Thats why she voted for the war authorization with Iran

    OH YEAHHH.

    God I fucking hate her so much.

    Thank God Edwards called her out on it. All I could think about during her entire answer was "But you just voted for war authorization! You voted for it! Gods fuck damn, shut up!".

    Your avatar fits the perplexity of the situation.

    Talous on
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    übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    jotate wrote: »
    Did Biden just suggest he'd attack Pakistan before Iran? And then have Dodd back him up on it?

    I think he meant that in attacking Iran, it could cause an uproar that would overthrow Bhuto and Musharraf and hand a country over that has at the least some Taliban and at worst lots of Taliban and some Al Qaeda a nuclear arsenal.

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Ohhhh, Kucinich. Bad call on the nuclear power. Somebody hasn't been reading the AmPol thread...

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    Anime OwnsAnime Owns Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Kucinich is, er, kind of an idiot.

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Gym wrote: »
    Kucinich is, er, kind of an idiot.

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    übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    geckahn wrote: »
    Gym wrote: »
    Kucinich is, er, kind of an idiot.

    He's entertaining though.

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I'd be okay if none of them talked about Bush's policies. It's pretty indistinguishing at this point.

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    geckahn wrote: »
    Gym wrote: »
    Kucinich is, er, kind of an idiot.

    He's entertaining though.

    Gravel was entertaining. Kucinich is annoying and useless.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Edwards with a gut punch.

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    TalousTalous Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Gravel was the one who brought up the whole Lieberman-Kyl resolution. I really enjoyed his role in the debates. IE -- Calling out the bullshit.

    Yeah, Edwards is coming off strong.

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    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Oh snap, Edwards hit Clinton hard.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    After a fierce battle with MSNBC's obfuscation and digging through packets to get a direct URL, I don't think I want to try that again.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    KungFu wrote: »
    Oh snap, Edwards hit Clinton hard.

    Edwards is here to bitch-slap some fools tonight.

    I guess he was coming to the realization that his candidacy was pretty much over if he didn't start.
    Of course, it's probably over anyway, but now he can say he tried.

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    übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So first break, thoughts?

    For me, so far most of them are trying to put forth the idea that they can "fix things" without firing a shot, which I don't think is very realistic or very honest.

    Who do you guys think came out ahead in that first 40 minutes?

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    After a fierce battle with MSNBC's obfuscation and digging through packets to get a direct URL, I don't think I want to try that again.

    Dude. It works in IE.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    All right, from how I understand and read these people, here's how things would end up:

    Clinton and Edwards would allow the war to happen, as would the entire Republican field save Paul.
    Obama would try diplomacy, give it an honest try, but would break it off and resort to some sort of military action if it became clear he was getting nowhere (but no longer than he absolutely has to).
    Richardson is a diplomacy wonk and would run that to the bitter end before he went to war.
    Paul would run diplomacy into the ground too, but would do that to a fault as he would view a war as unconstitutional.
    Kucinich would bake the guns into a pie and give them to Ahmadinejad as a peace offering.
    Dodd and Biden would be tougher with Pakistan, don't know exactly how tough and if that would involve war.
    Gravel didn't even poll high enough to get invited tonight.

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So first break, thoughts?

    For me, so far most of them are trying to put forth the idea that they can "fix things" without firing a shot, which I don't think is very realistic or very honest.

    Who do you guys think came out ahead in that first 40 minutes?

    Edwards. That guy has balls like a cannon with Hillary staring at him as he slaps her around.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    jotate wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    After a fierce battle with MSNBC's obfuscation and digging through packets to get a direct URL, I don't think I want to try that again.

    Dude. It works in IE.

    That's great for people using Windows. I'm trying to help out the people who aren't, or would prefer to not watch it embedded.

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    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So far, I have to say Edwards is winning this by a lot.

    And Im someone who hasn't ever really glanced at Edwards previous to this. But he is actually saying something when he answers these questions and manages to attack Clinton effectively at the same time.

    I have been somewhat of an Obama fan, but he hasn't impressed me this evening as of yet.

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    lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Clinton is looking really ticked off, and Edwards is really just going for the throat, with Obama making distinctions , finally a reasonably good debate to watch.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Well, they were saying this was something of a last-chance debate to make a name for yourself, as people are starting to pay attention now and time's running out until Iowa. If Obama and Edwards don't stick Clinton's head on a pike tonight, the media's about ready to anoint Hillary.

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    TalousTalous Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I almost think Clinton is wishing she hadn't come at this point in the debate.

    Wow, Obama really said something for the first time, just now.

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    jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Sing it, Barack!

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    lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Holy shit

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    lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Obama FINALLY stood up to Hillary

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Clinton's leaning on her podium, half-akimbo elbows, shooting death glares at Obama. She won't even look at Edwards.

    EDIT: Now she's looking. And she won't look away.

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    lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    go Edwards too, with his Santa Clause line :)

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    The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    "I believe in Santa Claus, I believe in the tooth fairy, but I don't think that's going to happen." Oh my.

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