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Half-Life: Cosumer Confusion
Evander
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Okay, here is the deal.
After YEARS of hearing from al sides that Half-life is awesome, and I MUST play it, I'm willing to give in. Since it is impossible to get a hold of a PS2 copy, and I don't even have a PS2 anyway, I've downloaded Steam on my newly fixed PC, and bought the dongle that lets me use my 360 controller on it. When I went to download Half-Life, though, I ran into an issue of much confusion, and I was hoping you all could help me sort it out.
Essentially, I am looking at three different "packages", and I have no idea which one to get. For ten dollars I can get the original Half-life 1, which, I believe, also comes with Half-Life deathmatch. I was about to buy this, when I saw the "Half-Life 1 anthology", or whatever they called it. It is only five bucks more, at 15 dollars, and it also comes with Opposing Force, Blueshift, and Team Fortress Classic. The latter I have no need for, but if the first two are worth playing, I would definitely play them. Finally, there is the matter of Half-Life: Source, which I am aware only has a few minor tweaks, but it is also 10 dollars, so if I am going to skip the 15 dollar bundle, I am thinking it might be better to go with Source, than to download the original, but I don't know.
The other thing is that, as previously mentioned, I intend to use my 360 controller to play the game. I simply hate KBM controls (and no ammount of insistance that it is "better" is going to convince me, so let's just spare this thread from that flame war.)
So, can anyone help me figure out what the heck to buy? I have Orange Box for the 360 sitting right next to my console, but I am holding off on HL2, and the episodes until I play through number 1, so I want to get started on it already.
Thanks.
After YEARS of hearing from al sides that Half-life is awesome, and I MUST play it, I'm willing to give in. Since it is impossible to get a hold of a PS2 copy, and I don't even have a PS2 anyway, I've downloaded Steam on my newly fixed PC, and bought the dongle that lets me use my 360 controller on it. When I went to download Half-Life, though, I ran into an issue of much confusion, and I was hoping you all could help me sort it out.
Essentially, I am looking at three different "packages", and I have no idea which one to get. For ten dollars I can get the original Half-life 1, which, I believe, also comes with Half-Life deathmatch. I was about to buy this, when I saw the "Half-Life 1 anthology", or whatever they called it. It is only five bucks more, at 15 dollars, and it also comes with Opposing Force, Blueshift, and Team Fortress Classic. The latter I have no need for, but if the first two are worth playing, I would definitely play them. Finally, there is the matter of Half-Life: Source, which I am aware only has a few minor tweaks, but it is also 10 dollars, so if I am going to skip the 15 dollar bundle, I am thinking it might be better to go with Source, than to download the original, but I don't know.
The other thing is that, as previously mentioned, I intend to use my 360 controller to play the game. I simply hate KBM controls (and no ammount of insistance that it is "better" is going to convince me, so let's just spare this thread from that flame war.)
So, can anyone help me figure out what the heck to buy? I have Orange Box for the 360 sitting right next to my console, but I am holding off on HL2, and the episodes until I play through number 1, so I want to get started on it already.
Thanks.
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I was under the impression that if you owned Half-Life 2 (original, which comes with Orange Box) that you get Half-Life Source for free anyway.
Back when HL: Source came out, everyone who owned HL2 up to that point got HL: Source for free, I believe. Nowadays you don't get it automatically with HL2, and it's not in the Orange Box. I honestly wouldn't pay for HL: Source.
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Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. If you wind up liking half-life even just a little, you'll want OpFor
But yeah, get HL1+the expansions. Source only adds some physics from what I understand, and OpFor is good.
Nope, I got HL2 (retail) at launch at didn't get source free.
Edit: And what Noray said. I am not pretentious about KBAM > controller at all, but for halflife, seriously, use a mouse.
Pfft. Console newb!
But seriously all of them are very much worth playing. Get the first one, and play through it. If you liked it, go with the "expansions".
I don't know how it works on the PC, but I have Orange Box for my 360.
Dude, I said I really don't want this to turn into a control discussion.
I'm not claiming the way I play to be better, I'm just saying that's how I personally play.
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See where he said he already got the Orange Box for his 360? Which would make the Complete Pack extremely expensive and redundant?
That's fine but just realize that HL1 is fairly old and may not be set up with a controller in mind. Don't come back and complain that "everyone" that claimed HL1 is awesome is wrong.
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That's why I ASKED which would be better for controller support in the first post.
And if you didn't want to talk about controller vs KBAM you shouldn't have brought it up.
How can I ask about controller support without bringing it up?
Anyway, even though most PC FPS games will let you map controls to a game pad, PC game difficulty, layout, and AI are designed for the freedom of KBM controls. You are going to have a VERY tough time. I'm sure the PS2 version was very gimped for this reason.
Also, keep in mind that pretty much only flight sticks were analog on the PC back then.
Do you want to encourage people to playthis supposedly awesome game, or is it more important to you to argue about control styles?
Is Source more likely to have gamepad support, since it was released later? That right there would make my decision for me.
It most certainly is more important. Its downright wrong to play it without KBAM. This isn't Halo we're talking about here!
Oh, and on topic, go for the 15 buck package. The two expansions are really worth the 5 bucks extra.
Hahaha, no. HL is one of the most amazing games ever made, and its still as brilliant to play nearly a decade on.
If you adamantly refuse to pick up a keyboard and mouse (no matter how fat your fingers, or how spastic your mouse arm, the easy difficulty setting is very easy), you're just cheating yourself out of playing one of the genre's greatest achievements.
I do like FPS' and KB/M
Take that for what you will.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life:_Decay
Having played HL back when it was first out; wish I had left my memories untained by the horror that was the PlayStation version.
Otherwise, the game and the expansions are worth the 15. never played blue shift, but OpFor was awwesome, almost better than the main game.
Even though I was laughing at you inside, I made sure NOT to push KBM on you and yet you respond as if I did. You are resisting it so much, that you are misapplying your response to perceived KBM persuasion and revealing just how unreasonable and baseless your aversion truly is.
All I said was that it's going to be a chore because it will not simulate the console experience just because you have it on a controller. That's not trying to convince you to play with KBM. That's something you need to know. That's more persuading you to get the PS2 version than anything else you think it implies. This same concept works the other way around: play Turok 2 on a PC w/KBM... TERRIBLE!
Well, they didn't change the models at all, and in theory it should have any gamepad ability that the source engine at the time had, as that's part of the engine and not part of what they ported over.
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You can try to get hold of the old pre steam versions of HL1, Opposing Force, Blueshift, enter one of the keys and voila, free HL1 + expansions for your Steam Account.