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Mod Approved: Pitch Your PAX Location Idea Thread
Moe Fwacky
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Okay, so here it is. Many of you know of my disapproval of the "PAX should be in my hometown" argument in speculative discussions of alternate PAX locations. Now, there has been no official announcements regarding an east coast or other location for PAX. PAX, as has been told, will always be in Seattle. A possible second PAX, personally, I don't think we'll be seeing for at least four years. Should it happen, great, if not, we still have PAX.
But, I would like to open up the floor for some well thought out and/or comedic alternate PAX locations. I will open up the floor with my own.
Location: Chicago, IL
Chicago is at an easily accessible nexus point between the eastern seaboard, the midwest and the south.
Convention Centers: I could find two major downtown centers. the Navy Pier and McCormick Place Complex
Airport: O'Hare International is about 18 miles from downtown.
Hotels: Chicago is full of hotels.
So there, now you guys do it. I know you already want to.
edit: I should add that off-topic banter will be removed from this thread with wild abandon
But, I would like to open up the floor for some well thought out and/or comedic alternate PAX locations. I will open up the floor with my own.
Location: Chicago, IL
Chicago is at an easily accessible nexus point between the eastern seaboard, the midwest and the south.
Convention Centers: I could find two major downtown centers. the Navy Pier and McCormick Place Complex
Airport: O'Hare International is about 18 miles from downtown.
Hotels: Chicago is full of hotels.
So there, now you guys do it. I know you already want to.
edit: I should add that off-topic banter will be removed from this thread with wild abandon
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I know it's not a whole lot closer to the East Coasters... but there's plenty of cheap flights to Vegas and the town is basically designed for conventions (I've heard conventions is actually the #1 source of tax revenue, not gambling suprisingly).
Plus there is gambling... which is gaming technically
Game design schools too.
Aside from Navy Pier and McCormick place, there's also the Donald E Stephens Convention Center (formerly known as the Rosemont Convention Center) in Rosemont, which is literally down the street from O'Hare airport. It's also more reasonably sized, which is a plus since McCormick place is really fucking huge and usually holds multiple conventions at once.
It's also a block from where I work. I'm not biased or anything though, really.
CHICAGO HISTORY MUSEUM
DAVE & BUSTER'S - sure there is one everywhere but there is one here too.
Wrigley Field - a row of bars and tourist shops across the street from it.
Gameworks & Gamecrazy - two arcades in driving distance from chicago downtown.
There is assorted night life, from clubs to bars, the time will be good for people over 21. People under 21 there are multiple historical and architectural places to visit. If this event were to happen in the summer, the beaches lakeside are pretty money. The women of Chicago are delicious.
I would suggest the event happen in the summer, not just for the women, but there are more events available for those under 21. As nice as Chicago is, there is not much downtown at night for those under age. If anyone who lives in Chicago and not just vacations there like I do, please add some info to this thread on some underage fun. Not because I am a pedo lurker <i'm coming for you> , but for the sole fact that the event's attendence age is around 18 to 28. So if you are rooting for Chicago or another city, please add to the fact that everyone can have a good time at the event please.
Right downtown and attached to hotels. Also attached by skywalk to the Inner Harbor.
It's a great place to hold a convention (I know it hosts Otakon (sp?) every year).
New York is a major hub for pretty much all airline, rail, and bus systems. It's easy to get to by any mode of transportation
Convention Centers: The Javits Center is the big one, but there are a multitude of smaller ones if that's too large to be feasible.
Airport: LaGuardia and JFK are both close to the city and easily accessible through the subways.
Hotels: New York's hotel industry is huge, as they're used to catering to business travelers as well as tourists. There are a variety of options: If money's no expense, there's the Hilton and Plaza, and if it is, there's smaller hotels either in Manhattan or easily accessible in Brooklyn and Queens.
Game companies: There are some big names in the area, like Activision, Take 2, Vivendi, soon Nintendo, and the like. But the real allure of New York is that there's a really vibrant independent games scene. Greg Costikyan's Manifesto Games is based out of the area, and there are a multitude of indie game designers and the like that would be able to attend PAX that couldn't otherwise. A PAX in NY could go far in making the city's gaming culture a bigger part of gaming culture as a whole.
Game schools: The big ones in the area are Parsons and NYU, which recently added a game design concentration. There are also a lot of smaller colleges which may have programs.
So yeah. A pipe dream, but I'd love to see it happen. Not just because it's near me, but because I think it could do a lot.
I live in Baltimore but I have not been here long so I don't know much about places like game design schools and gaming friendly places. There are nearby Dave and Busters and Bethesda is located in uh... Bethesda Maryland.
Dave and busters in Hanover is 12.7 miles or 19 minutes away from the BCC
Bethesda Softworks is 45 miles or 53 minutes away from the BCC
I came up empty looking for a video game place like Gameworks here in Maryland, BUT, there is a Gameworks in Chicago.
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Also, there is quite an extensive Wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billings,_Montana
A few facts from that article:
1. As of the 2000 census, the city had a total population of 89,847 and a 2006 estimate indicates the city's population has grown to 100,148. (Over 100,000 people wow!)
2. It is not unusual to find fossilized fish in the area. (who doesn't want fossilized fish?)
3. Deniz Tek of the influential Australian punk band Radio Birdman worked in Billings as a doctor. (get a rockstar to operate on you fuck yeah!)
4. In the summer, the temperature can rise to over 100 degrees Fahrenheit while the winter can bring temperatures below zero.
5. The Billings Police Department is the main law enforcement agency in Billings. It is the largest city police force in Montana, with about 136 sworn officers and 80 civilian employees. (not too many cops, we can get away with more!)
So what do you guys think? PAXtana 08?
Oh, and to bring back my arguements from the last thread, Chicago has got Grand Central, O'Hare and 7 major US interstates comming in, and quite a public transit system to use to get around while we're there.
Plus you have that one Museum, I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head.
Seattle.
Field Museum. That's the one with the dinosaurs and whatnot.
Also the Museum of Science and Industry, which has more tech and space kind of stuff. And that huge WW2 German submarine that you can go on tours in, unless they've shut down that exhibit.
edit: Oh, apparently they weren't shutting it down all those years ago, they were moving it and building an enclosure around it to keep it from deteriorating. Cool.
Or after 2009, put it in the new Vancouver Convention & Exhibition Centre.
http://www.vcec.ca/
Chicago does sound decent for an Eastern sojourn though.
Centrally located, if a bit far south of center. Several large hotels and convention centers available, though the one right by DFW airport is think too small for the behemoth PAX has become. Several airports. DFW is the biggest. There's a few game companies that I know are based in Dallas, apparently referred to as the Dallas Gaming Mafia according to Wikipedia. Among them are iD, Apogee, Fountainhead, Gearbox, and Ensemble Studios. SMU is located here and they have that Guildhall development program. There's plenty of great restaurants and bands and such for those poor misguided souls who don't want to spend every waking hour at the con.
But would you not want PAX in the state where you are mayor?
Would think the options for an east coast PAX would be Chicago, New York City, Washington DC, Ft Lauderdale and Huston.
This is also not a bad idea. Digital Life and Wiredfest both host at the Javits center every year. NYC also has fun for all ages all year round. Barcade is there. As well as Dave and Busters and tons of arcades. Could be good.
This is true. Which is why I thought the NYC idea could be good. Aren't there enforcers from the city ? I was told one of them runs the Childsplay Foundation fundraiser at Barcade. I love Chicago personally, but if it works out with enforcers better for NYC then go for it. Really it would be up to them.
If there was an Eastern PAX I think plenty of people would step up. I know I would. ;-)
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Ideally if there was a second PAX somewhere, it would be in a city thats got a big convention center but is outside of a major city and doesn't have as many people hanging around on the weekends. Unfortunately I don't know of such a city, I certainly don't live in one.
Why not Boise, ID or Portland, OR?
I'm just kidding. :P
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- It's convention center is 3 times the size of Seattle's horribly designed one, and doesn't have a shitty floorplan, because they didn't have to build it onto 3 other buildings
- 5 hotels within walking distance, one has a skybridge that directly connects
- Event only parking
- Doesn't have Seattle's horrible highway system
- Doesn't have Chicago's horrible highway system or tollbooths or dirty air
- It's right in the center of the United States. It's equally as far away to everyone!
- Old market + tons of bars + restaurants for all the people that like to kill their brain cells with alchy-ma-hol.
Same with the highways. Not horrible, you cant get lost unless you are an idiot :P
San diego Convention Center, home of comic-con international (comic-con.org)
There is a ton of cross over between the PAX crowd and the Comic-con crowd. It would be a familiar venue. I don't know how easy it would be to reserve it, I know that demand is high. There are lots of hotels and it is right near the airport and right next to the ocean.
Otherwise San diego is a stellar vacation spot even without a convention.
We could bring 'em to Ohio...
On second thought,
I don't think I'd wish that torture on anyone. :P
I like Seattle,
although Chicago is a close and noteworthy second.
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Don't forget the indoor plumbing.
Yeah, just like LA. Which has EA, and uh...
EA Sports.