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Pokemon Pearl, Action Replay, and Bans

SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Games and Technology
I recently purchased for my little cousin this holiday season (1) copy of "Pokemon Pearl". Now this is the game shes been asking about for what seems like forever and having recently discovered it hidden in my suitcase (What the hell is with little kids rummaging through your stuff?) shes become ecstatic and wont cease to stop talking about it.

However theres a problem.

Now if theres any "PokeyMons" fans out there please forgive me. I haven't played these games since the good ol' black and white days. The days where you could kill people by bludgeoning them over the head with the plastic brick so often referred to as a Gameboy. But apparently nintendo is up to over 400 of these things and with the addition of the new 100 or so it is now impossible to catch her favorite one.

So being the amazing cousin that I am I promptly used the awesome power of google to continue to solve all of life's problems. After about 30secs of searching (god bless google) it turns out that there are two options.

1.) Import it from a previous game - Out of the question since she had her parents sell her old gameboy stuff to get money for a DS awhile ago.

2.) Use an "action replay"

Oh what luck! I have an action replay she can use! (Dont judge me)
However the same google response turned up an article talking about how nintendo was banning people using certain action replay codes. (All pokemon, all shiny (wtf does this mean?) and pokemon with stats and abilities that they should not have)
Now the last thing I want to do is get my cousins DS banned however she is obsessed with this pokemon and refuses to give up hope, so I beg of anyone out there with knowledge of the new games...

If I spawn this one in the wild do you think nintendo will ban her DS? I'm told with the new games it records when each pokemon was caught and by whom, however couldn't it just read like she transferred it from an old game?

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Your best bet is to just have someone trade the one she wants with her through the intarwebs.

    Also, 'shiny' is a rare 'condition' in which some of the pokemon you end up catching(very, very few) have an alternate coloring. I forget if it affects stats at all, though.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm pretty sure it just means banned from competitive tournaments, which I doubt a little girl would be much interested in it.

    All the same, if you're concerned about it, I'm positive that someone around here has the Pokemon she wants. What is it?

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm pretty sure it just means banned from competitive tournaments, which I doubt a little girl would be much interested in it.

    All the same, if you're concerned about it, I'm positive that someone around here has the Pokemon she wants. What is it?

    I'm hearing that nintendo is banning all online play all together, so if I spawn it for her and she gets caught she will no longer be able to play mario cart with her friends from the comfort of her home.

    That being said she wants a 'mewtwo'. Keep in mind if she does trade for it she still won't be getting the game till christmas and probably won't have anything worth trading for for some time.

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  • WickerBasketWickerBasket Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Sparrow wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it just means banned from competitive tournaments, which I doubt a little girl would be much interested in it.

    All the same, if you're concerned about it, I'm positive that someone around here has the Pokemon she wants. What is it?

    I'm hearing that nintendo is banning all online play all together, so if I spawn it for her and she gets caught she will no longer be able to play mario cart with her friends from the comfort of her home.

    That being said she wants a 'mewtwo'. Keep in mind if she does trade for it she still won't be getting the game till christmas and probably won't have anything worth trading for for some time.
    I wouldn't chance it, from Nintendo's point of view it's cheating. With the trading system available in the game she should be able to trade for a mewtwo if she trades something of equal value from her game.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I have tons of Mewtwos I can trade for a heart scale, and if you lack that, give me any trash Pokémon you don't want. Except Bidoof, I hate Bidoof.

    By the way:

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=3865337

    El Tema de Pokymen.

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    RockinX wrote: »
    I have tons of Mewtwos I can trade for a heart scale, and if you lack that, give me any trash Pokémon you don't want. Except Bidoof, I hate Bidoof.

    By the way:

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=3865337

    El Tema de Pokymen.

    Ill talk to her about it and if she's ok with it we'll open her present early and generate a friend code so that she can trade you. Keep in mind that she hasn't even started a file yet so she would most likely end up trading you 'trash' if your ok with that.

    Ill send you a pm if she's ok with it seeing as we would have to re-wrap the game when were done since it is her christmas present.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Sparrow wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it just means banned from competitive tournaments, which I doubt a little girl would be much interested in it.

    All the same, if you're concerned about it, I'm positive that someone around here has the Pokemon she wants. What is it?

    I'm hearing that nintendo is banning all online play all together, so if I spawn it for her and she gets caught she will no longer be able to play mario cart with her friends from the comfort of her home.

    That being said she wants a 'mewtwo'. Keep in mind if she does trade for it she still won't be getting the game till christmas and probably won't have anything worth trading for for some time.

    Where'd you see that? It... sounds kind of dubious to me.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    There are a few problems for her.

    1.) She will have to trade to get it, and (If I Recall Correctly) she will most likely get a PAR'd one because I don't remember them being breedable.(Correct if wrong)

    2.) If she gets a traded one, it will most likely be of a higher level, unless she gets a PAR'd one that is like level 5. If the pokemon is of a high level she will have to earn badges to get it to listen to her in battle. Each badge increases the level range of pokemon listening by 10 levels I think? with no badges it is up to lvl 10, two is up to 20. I believe. So if she gets traded a level 50 Mewtwo, it will take some time for her to be able to use it in battle.

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  • Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Sparrow wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it just means banned from competitive tournaments, which I doubt a little girl would be much interested in it.

    All the same, if you're concerned about it, I'm positive that someone around here has the Pokemon she wants. What is it?

    I'm hearing that nintendo is banning all online play all together, so if I spawn it for her and she gets caught she will no longer be able to play mario cart with her friends from the comfort of her home.

    That being said she wants a 'mewtwo'. Keep in mind if she does trade for it she still won't be getting the game till christmas and probably won't have anything worth trading for for some time.

    Where'd you see that? It... sounds kind of dubious to me.

    Yeah. There is large and thriving community of Pokemon Hackers on the net. This is the first time that I've heard of Nintendo banning people. And this game came out in April.

    Sounds like lies spread by anti-cheaters trying to scare gullible people. I'd pay it no mind.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Like... how would they even track whether or not you cheated in another game?

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Like... how would they even track whether or not you cheated in another game?

    Probably by the ds's mac address (if it has one)

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    At any rate, a properly done hacked Mewtwo is entirely indistinguishable from a legit one. Isn't there a program out there that generates AR codes for different Pokemon?

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  • ElKaboomElKaboom Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Well, even if RockinX somehow is unable to get you one of those Mewtwos I'd be willing to support the cause and give mine up (I can just trade for another on the GTS). I'll be backup if the time comes.

    Mine is completely legitimate, unhacked and transferred from my very own FireRed so that won't be an issue if you're truly worried and want to play on the safe side (although this scare seems a little...iffy).

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Essentially if you can trade it online, nintendo can't recognize it as hacked. Or else they wouldn't let you get online with it. But! Being banned from nintendo wifi completely for pokeshenanigans is 100% bogus anyways. I'd just use the action replay and not use the all pokemon or shiny codes, which from what I've heard, CAN get your cart banned from playing pokemon online.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    A wild mewtwo could be caught by Nintendo's anti-cheat if they check it's trainer ID and find that it is the same as your games. Since you have to trade mewtwo from the GBA games it can not possible have the same trainer ID(unless it gets a new one from the trade, I don't know how the time machine works). If you hack a mewtwo, you'll need to use a code that gives it a new trainer ID and flip a 'traded' flag.

    It sounds like the best option is to trade online with other people and it's not that hard to find the species you want.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I really don't think Nintendo is banning entire DSes from online play for shenanigans in one game; otherwise there would have been a rash of bannings after Metroid Hunters online turned to shit.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    everyone here is forgetting that they need to FINISH THE GAME FIRST if they are going to trade online. to get the Mewtwo you need to unlock the national Pokedex, which means you need to see all 150 pokemon in the main game, which means that you need to finish it first.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    wunderbar wrote: »
    everyone here is forgetting that they need to FINISH THE GAME FIRST if they are going to trade online. to get the Mewtwo you need to unlock the national Pokedex, which means you need to see all 150 pokemon in the main game, which means that you need to finish it first.

    At least you don't have to go though an unknown dungeon to get him this time.

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Aight, thanks for the feedback guys. I think ill just load up one from the 'action replay' if she's alright with it, seeing as there have been no reports of bans using that certain code.

    However if she's not I'll pm one of you.

    Thanks again

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    wunderbar wrote: »
    everyone here is forgetting that they need to FINISH THE GAME FIRST if they are going to trade online. to get the Mewtwo you need to unlock the national Pokedex, which means you need to see all 150 pokemon in the main game, which means that you need to finish it first.

    not true
    if you were to do so in the gts you'd be right but friend to friend is easily possible\
    I actually got an eevee before finishing the second gym

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The 100% "legal" (as in there's no way the game can recognize it's not real) way to get a Mewtwo with no one being hurt is to get one in Fire/Leaf, trade it to Emerald, clone it using the clone trick, and then send it to Diamond/Pearl.

    I don't know if when you get Pokemon in Diamond/Pearl if it gives them your Trainer ID since you have to catch them over again in that special area and everything. If it does then creating a "wild" Mewtwo shouldn't be a problem.

    And yeah, you don't need to beat the game to get traded Pokemon from another D/P user, even if that Pokemon is old-world. I've had a Shroomish/Breloom and I haven't beaten the game yet (it's funny, its number is ??? since I don't have the national dex).

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Essentially if you can trade it online, nintendo can't recognize it as hacked. Or else they wouldn't let you get online with it. But! Being banned from nintendo wifi completely for pokeshenanigans is 100% bogus anyways. I'd just use the action replay and not use the all pokemon or shiny codes, which from what I've heard, CAN get your cart banned from playing pokemon online.

    I beg to differ
    Hacked pokemon can be traded
    My friend got a poorly hacked arceus from the gts
    fucked up his entire save game

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Essentially if you can trade it online, nintendo can't recognize it as hacked. Or else they wouldn't let you get online with it. But! Being banned from nintendo wifi completely for pokeshenanigans is 100% bogus anyways. I'd just use the action replay and not use the all pokemon or shiny codes, which from what I've heard, CAN get your cart banned from playing pokemon online.

    I beg to differ
    Hacked pokemon can be traded
    My friend got a poorly hacked arceus from the gts
    fucked up his entire save game

    I, of all people, realize that you can use hacked pokemon on nintendo's wifi, like a blissey with seismic toss in a heal ball or something. The point is that it DID get online and that being online it's clear that the person wasn't banned from playing online - nintendo's hack sensors were not activated.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wasn't that before Nintendo started banning hacked Pokémons on the GTS? I've read about people getting bad eggs while battling.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    This is a purely hypothetical hacked pokemon. If you encounter a pokemon online in any form, either by battle, gts, or trade, you can be sure that nintendo can't detect it as being a hacked pokemon that would be restricted from being online. Because you saw it online. So it wasn't restricted.

    If you trade for a pokemon over nintendo wifi, you won't have to worry about getting your game cart banned from wifi play because of it.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You haven't tried to offer a hacked Poké you got from the GTS when you first got the game.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    We know that the pokemon won't have last been online months ago since the trade has not happened yet. The question is "if I trade for a mewtwo, am I going to be at risk of getting banned from online play (possibly for every game in that ds) if it was a hacked pokemon?" and the answer is no. If it was hacked to the point of someone getting banned they wouldn't be able to receive it in a trade, because the trader would be banned when they attempted to trade it.

    The only risk is if nintendo becomes more strict about it later, but they have no reason to do this.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Nintendo are basically the last company you have to worry about strictly moderating the online scene.

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