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Republican Debates

ElkiElki get busyModerator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
edited January 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
The two debates are held back-to-back, but I thought it would be a good idea to have two separate threads.

Criteria to be a candidate in this debate: Place first through fourth in Iowa, poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major New Hampshire surveys, or poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major national surveys.


Location: Manchester, New Hampshire

Network: ABC

Date & Time: January 5th, 7:00 P.M. EST

Candidates:

Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
John McCain
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson

Candidates who do not meet the criteria:

Duncan Hunter

Moderator: Charles Gibson

Webstream: ???



This is not the general primaries thread. General primaries talk goes here.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Tancredo's out, remember.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2008
    *bump*

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Zoolander wrote: »
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

    It was hilarious. Post-Iowa I saw and interview with him. It seems like he's finally caught on that his 9/11 whoring is a running joke. Whenever he really wanted to stay 9/11 he kinda of stumbled and mumbled out"...erm....crisis" really awkwardly.

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  • toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh I thought this was the one at the Reagan Library. I'm going to buy some liquor for that baby.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2008
    I'm going to DVR this, and watch it later. Why did they schedule the debate against freaking football? Jerks.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Zoolander wrote: »
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

    It was hilarious. Post-Iowa I saw and interview with him. It seems like he's finally caught on that his 9/11 whoring is a running joke. Whenever he really wanted to stay 9/11 he kinda of stumbled and mumbled out"...erm....crisis" really awkwardly.

    I think he's getting more concerned about its potential for alcohol poisoning.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    I'm going to DVR this, and watch it later. Why did they schedule the debate against freaking football? Jerks.

    Isn't scheduling, like, anything against football death in the States?

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

    It was hilarious. Post-Iowa I saw and interview with him. It seems like he's finally caught on that his 9/11 whoring is a running joke. Whenever he really wanted to stay 9/11 he kinda of stumbled and mumbled out"...erm....crisis" really awkwardly.

    I think he's getting more concerned about its potential for alcohol poisoning.

    When asked if he was worried about his (piss-poor) results he responded with something like "on 911 there are times when I was worried." I larfed.

    I'm not a fan of Ron Paul but I was happy as shit when he destroyed Rudy in the polls.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

    It was hilarious. Post-Iowa I saw and interview with him. It seems like he's finally caught on that his 9/11 whoring is a running joke. Whenever he really wanted to stay 9/11 he kinda of stumbled and mumbled out"...erm....crisis" really awkwardly.

    I think he's getting more concerned about its potential for alcohol poisoning.

    When asked if he was worried about his (piss-poor) results he responded with something like "on 911 there are times when I was worried." I larfed.

    I'm not a fan of Ron Paul but I was happy as shit when he destroyed Rudy in the polls.

    Rudy forfeited Iowa months ago when he decided not to campaign there and only really start after Florida had its vote. That's like beating up on the hobo's pet rat and calling it a victory.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    And for surviving this far, all remaining candidate podiums now come with chairs!

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    And for surviving this far, all remaining candidate podiums now come with chairs!

    Oooo, casual!

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I caught this thread 1 minute before the start time. :D

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LIVE FROM MANCHESTER, IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!

    Sorry.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh, no, he's getting out of the way and not timing people. Paul, nice knowing you.

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    What will Rudy's 9/11 count be today

    It was hilarious. Post-Iowa I saw and interview with him. It seems like he's finally caught on that his 9/11 whoring is a running joke. Whenever he really wanted to stay 9/11 he kinda of stumbled and mumbled out"...erm....crisis" really awkwardly.

    I think he's getting more concerned about its potential for alcohol poisoning.

    When asked if he was worried about his (piss-poor) results he responded with something like "on 911 there are times when I was worried." I larfed.

    I'm not a fan of Ron Paul but I was happy as shit when he destroyed Rudy in the polls.

    Rudy forfeited Iowa months ago when he decided not to campaign there and only really start after Florida had its vote. That's like beating up on the hobo's pet rat and calling it a victory.

    Don't deny me my guilty pleasure damn you! :lol:

    I despise the man back from his Mayoral Days (I'm 40 mins out from NYC) but even I thought he'd do better then the paltry showing he displayed in Iowa. And yes I know he didn't campaign there, but I still think it's telling.

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  • toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Is anyone else on the west coast not getting this live? My ABC isn't showing the debate until 7pm PST/ 10pm EST.

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh hell, Facebook.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Was Shinto getting a haircut today?

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    95% of Iowa precincts reporting?! WHAT THE HELL, 5% OF IOWA?

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Paul drawing a center seat for once.

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  • manaleak34manaleak34 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    Is anyone else on the west coast not getting this live? My ABC isn't showing the debate until 7pm PST/ 10pm EST.

    Yep, which considering it would be airing normally the same time as the big Seahawk game it's probably the better decision.

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh man. Is the only online stream of this through Facebook?

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Wow, strong start from Huckabee.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Go McCain.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    Paul drawing a center seat for once.

    "The seating order was chosen at random", which is the polite way of saying "John McCain isn't all the way on the left because some of you GOP voters think he's a commie".

    Oh, and isn't this debate the sum total of Fred Thompson's New Hampshire campaign?

    And in a stunning upset, Fred Thompson makes the first 9/11 War On Global Jihad reference! Suck it, Rudy!

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Opening question: Are you going to run on Bush foreign policy, or are you running away from it? Starting with Huckabee, who basically has said he'd run on it. He tries to moderate his position, but can't hold the center and drifts back to 'yeah, I'm running on it'. Thompson not so apologetic about it. Giuliani... what do you think.

    Annnnnd Rudy wants to seriously beef up the military. 10 more brigades, beef up the NAVY, etc.

    Edit: And here's McCain's response in visual form:

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Did Mitt just roll his eyes at Rudy?

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Good luck filling up all those uniforms, Giuliani.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    McCain: Bush is fantastic. Gonna keep on with what he's doing.

    And you people like him?

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Paul trying to inject the we-have-bases-in-their-neighborhoods-how-do-you-THINK-they're-going-to-react argument. Romney pretty much ignoring it.

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So, no online stream at all, then?

    ::kicks dust::

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Wow, all the viable GOP candidates are groveling at the feet of the Bush Doctrine.

    Because that's the way to win a national election: Say you agree with a President who's got a 30% approval rating.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Romney had a pretty good answer. The answer isn't blowing people up, but rather helping them and educating.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Wow, all the viable GOP candidates are groveling at the feet of the Bush Doctrine.

    Because that's the way to win a national election: Say you agree with a President who's got a 30% approval rating.
    Seriously. I cannot believe that. Although at least Huckabee made an effort in his answer to get away from it (a failed attempt, but an attempt.) Everyone else save Paul just dropping trou.

    Edit: Oh, wow. Paul using the how-would-we-feel-if-China-put-bases-in-Mexico question. Romney says "you're reading their propaganda". You fucking prick.

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
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    Am I the only one who thinks of a Downy commercial every time I see that picture?

    Mmmmm ............ spring time fresh!

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    HAHAHAHAHAH I love how Paul tries to make salient points, and gets cutoff by the "fight the tur'rists!"

    JUST CUT HIM OFF BACK RON! Christ!

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Romney accusing Ron Paul of falling for radical violent Jihadist propaganda.

    Dogpile on Ron Paul! But for the only policy stance Ron Paul's right about! Go!

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Wow, all the viable GOP candidates are groveling at the feet of the Bush Doctrine.

    Because that's the way to win a national election: Say you agree with a President who's got a 30% approval rating.
    Seriously. I cannot believe that. Although at least Huckabee made an effort in his answer to get away from it (a failed attempt, but an attempt.) Everyone else save Paul just dropping trou.

    It's so sad. If any of these bozos somehow magically win the election, I'm gonna become an alcoholic.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Huckabee tries again to distance himself from Bush, but trots out "Islamofacism" reference #1!

    Props for the Sayyid Qutb reference, Huck! Someone's been studying after those Pakistan gaffes!

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