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A friend IM'd me at work about this, and at first I didn't believe him at all (resisting the obvious pun). Then I went looking around, and sure enough.....
My thoughts go out to his family/friends/daughter. I agree, watching Dark Knight will now be a bittersweet experience.
“I stressed out a little too much,†Mr. Ledger said. He tends to do that. He is here in London filming the latest episode of the “Batman†franchise, “The Dark Knight.†(Mr. Bale, as it happens, plays Batman; Mr. Ledger plays the Joker.) It is a physically and mentally draining role — his Joker is a “psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy†he said cheerfully — and, as often happens when he throws himself into a part, he is not sleeping much.
“Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,†he said. “I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.†One night he took an Ambien, which failed to work. He took a second one and fell into a stupor, only to wake up an hour later, his mind still racing.
Even as he spoke, Mr. Ledger was hard-pressed to keep still. He got up and poured more coffee. He stepped outside into the courtyard and smoked a cigarette. He shook his hair out from under its hood, put a rubber band around it, took out the rubber band, put on a hat, took off the hat, put the hood back up. He went outside and had another cigarette. Polite and charming, he nonetheless gave off the sense that the last thing he wanted to do was delve deep into himself for public consumption. “It can be a little distressing to have to overintellectualize yourself,†is how he put it, a little apologetically.
Conducting a tour of the house, which he is renting for a few months, he made wry remarks about the art. One painting depicts a crowd of creatures who appear to be in hell, but who seem determined to extract as much sexual pleasure as they can from their eternity of free time; Mr. Ledger has turned another one around and hung it upside down, to no apparent ill advantage.
He was actually turning into The Joker. Holy shit.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
Well I certainly don't want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing The Penguin now.
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There are some acts so ruthless, some deeds so unpalatable, that only the Vlka Fenryka are capable of undertaking them. It's what we were bred for. It's the way we were designed. Without qualm or sentiment, without hesitation or whimsy. We take pride in being the only Astartes who will never, under any circumstances, refuse to strike on the Allfather's behalf, no matter what the target, no matter what the cause.
Well I certainly don't want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing The Penguin now.
For a moment, I was all "No, that'd be a great idea!" then I realized what you meant. :P
Yeah. Although The Penguin is probably the worst villain I could have chosen. As he's the least psychotic and may only lead Hoffman to start wearing a monocle and carrying an umbrella. Which, in my eyes, would only make him more awesome.
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There are some acts so ruthless, some deeds so unpalatable, that only the Vlka Fenryka are capable of undertaking them. It's what we were bred for. It's the way we were designed. Without qualm or sentiment, without hesitation or whimsy. We take pride in being the only Astartes who will never, under any circumstances, refuse to strike on the Allfather's behalf, no matter what the target, no matter what the cause.
Well I certainly don't want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing The Penguin now.
For a moment, I was all "No, that'd be a great idea!" then I realized what you meant. :P
Yeah. Although The Penguin is probably the worst villain I could have chosen. As he's the least psychotic and may only lead Hoffman to start wearing a monocle and carrying an umbrella. Which, in my eyes, would only make him more awesome.
Hell, he may even run for mayor. This really was a good idea!
My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
A couple people on other boards have related anecdotal stories about how friends have taken sleeping pills and ended up taking a whole bunch more sleeping pills or other pills while under the influence of the drug.
So it could have been poorly prescribed sleeping pills that just fucked him up.
A couple people on other boards have related anecdotal stories about how friends have taken sleeping pills and ended up taking a whole bunch more sleeping pills or other pills while under the influence of the drug.
So it could have been poorly prescribed sleeping pills that just fucked him up.
Yeah, I am thinking combination of perscription, over-the-counter meds, and the fact that he had pneumonia lead to his death.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
Method-acting the Joker is a highly unsettling prospect.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
While I've not heard this PARTICULAR anecdote, I've heard similar. Real "method acting" is highly discouraged in high school and college atmospheres, from what I've experienced. Oftentimes the kids just don't have the mental maturity it takes to be able to dive into and then out of a persona. Ledger was fantastic, but from what we're hearing now, it sounds like he had problems coming up for air, which is just another example of why method isn't for everyone.
My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
While I've not heard this PARTICULAR anecdote, I've heard similar. Real "method acting" is highly discouraged in high school and college atmospheres, from what I've experienced. Oftentimes the kids just don't have the mental maturity it takes to be able to dive into and then out of a persona. Ledger was fantastic, but from what we're hearing now, it sounds like he had problems coming up for air, which is just another example of why method isn't for everyone.
Moreover, as I've pointed out but wish to continue to point out for those who are not comic book literate, method-acting the Joker, properly, is not a prospect designed to keep one mentally balanced.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
While I've not heard this PARTICULAR anecdote, I've heard similar. Real "method acting" is highly discouraged in high school and college atmospheres, from what I've experienced. Oftentimes the kids just don't have the mental maturity it takes to be able to dive into and then out of a persona. Ledger was fantastic, but from what we're hearing now, it sounds like he had problems coming up for air, which is just another example of why method isn't for everyone.
Moreover, as I've pointed out but wish to continue to point out for those who are not comic book literate, method-acting the Joker, properly, is not a prospect designed to keep one mentally balanced.
Neither is method-acting Batman, which I'm pretty sure Christian Bale does.
It's what makes this series so damn good. In any case, I don't think method acting had something to do with Ledger's death, as filming was wrapped and he was doing a different movie, so the Joker should have been long since "released" by now. I'd say it probably had more to do with the medicine combined with pneumonia. I mean, pneumonia doesn't play. Without treatment, it's just as fatal as it's always been.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
While I've not heard this PARTICULAR anecdote, I've heard similar. Real "method acting" is highly discouraged in high school and college atmospheres, from what I've experienced. Oftentimes the kids just don't have the mental maturity it takes to be able to dive into and then out of a persona. Ledger was fantastic, but from what we're hearing now, it sounds like he had problems coming up for air, which is just another example of why method isn't for everyone.
Moreover, as I've pointed out but wish to continue to point out for those who are not comic book literate, method-acting the Joker, properly, is not a prospect designed to keep one mentally balanced.
Neither is method-acting Batman, which I'm pretty sure Christian Bale does.
It's what makes this series so damn good. In any case, I don't think method acting had something to do with Ledger's death, as filming was wrapped and he was doing a different movie, so the Joker should have been long since "released" by now. I'd say it probably had more to do with the medicine combined with pneumonia. I mean, pneumonia doesn't play. Without treatment, it's just as fatal as it's always been.
Ledger did go on record as saying that he was suffering from insomnia during his work on the film, and that it seemed to persist beyond the end of shooting for The Dark Knight. If he didn't go totally under while portraying the Joker, something about the part at least seems to have unsettled him.
Also, I'd think there's a big emotional and psychological difference between method acting Batman and method acting the Joker. Batman, at least, channels all his instability toward a coherent, positive focus. There's a redemptive aspect to the things Batman does. Joker is just... raw chaos.
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My point exactly. Method acting has an old urban legend surrounding it about some high-school student that had a slight hormonal balance that led to him be very susceptible to psychosis. Then he took on the role of dracula and... well, let's just say that he didn't come out the same way he went in. It's probably just a myth to deter kids from "over-acting" but... well, you never know...
While I've not heard this PARTICULAR anecdote, I've heard similar. Real "method acting" is highly discouraged in high school and college atmospheres, from what I've experienced. Oftentimes the kids just don't have the mental maturity it takes to be able to dive into and then out of a persona. Ledger was fantastic, but from what we're hearing now, it sounds like he had problems coming up for air, which is just another example of why method isn't for everyone.
Moreover, as I've pointed out but wish to continue to point out for those who are not comic book literate, method-acting the Joker, properly, is not a prospect designed to keep one mentally balanced.
Neither is method-acting Batman, which I'm pretty sure Christian Bale does.
It's what makes this series so damn good. In any case, I don't think method acting had something to do with Ledger's death, as filming was wrapped and he was doing a different movie, so the Joker should have been long since "released" by now. I'd say it probably had more to do with the medicine combined with pneumonia. I mean, pneumonia doesn't play. Without treatment, it's just as fatal as it's always been.
Ledger did go on record as saying that he was suffering from insomnia during his work on the film, and that it seemed to persist beyond the end of shooting for The Dark Knight. If he didn't go totally under while portraying the Joker, something about the part at least seems to have unsettled him.
Also, I'd think there's a big emotional and psychological difference between method acting Batman and method acting the Joker. Batman, at least, channels all his instability toward a coherent, positive focus. There's a redemptive aspect to the things Batman does. Joker is just... raw chaos.
I would have to attribute method acting to at least some of Ledger's emotional instability as he admitted to the press about his insomnia, restlessness etc. The character of the Joker is an incredible undertaking and I imagine could be extremely taxing to his psyche: immersing himself into the position of an un-empathetic, twisted, murderous, sociopath. Though I won't say that method acting is to "blame" for his suicide--if it indeed was intentional--I wouldn't peg it as out-right impossible that it had a detrimental effect on his identity management. That--in turn--could have led him to this very unfortunate reality. Whatever it was, it's all very sad.
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Peace be upon you, Heath of the Ledgers. Surely God has taken you from us in a fit of jealousy. Where ever you rest, I'm sure it's a lot more awesome now than it was before.
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Yeah. The combination of his role as Bob Dylan in that recent film, along with his portrayal of the Joker gave him insomnia. He probably just took too much medication in an attempt to sleep. Tragic accident, but I don't see suicide.
Nooooooo. He was one of the few decent things to come out of my crummy city. Gosh.
But I'll admit, my immediate reaction was that this may just be the universe atoning for A Knight's Tale, followed by OH SHIT BATMAN!
Chin up man, you still got what, that old 90's band, Jebediah!
They were alright...
And hey! Aeroplane races!
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I did a scan of the last couple of pages to check on this being mentioned yet. The image linked below has some harsh language in it, so I would label is as possibly NSFW (considering the text is all bolded and huge).
It's from the Westboro Baptist Church. These brain damaged lowlifes are planning to picket Heath Ledger's funeral. They sure seem to love the word "fag" as well. I was considering making a seperate topic about the WBC, not just about this but about their picketing of other funerals, but I wouldn't do it any justice.
Just thought I'd chip in with my RIP Heath... a sad loss. Reminds me of when Aaliyah died back in 2001, that made me incredibly sad as I was quite connected to her music at the time. I've not seen Heath in many movies, but those I had seen he was great in, and it looks like his turn as The Joker will be great.
On the subject of the WBC - I sure hope those motorcycle fellas turn up to block these shitbags from the view of the family, like they have done at many military funerals. I don't understand what WBC hope to achieve besides getting a beating... they must realise that their message is backwards and will have no sway over most modern, free thinking people. Using a time of grief to push their agenda is just sickening, and I hope that they are stopped somehow, or at least allowed no-where near the ceremony.
This does make me wonder about the responsibility a director has over his actors, especially if they do method-acting. While this is just vague speculating, it doesn't seem unlikely that the combination of living a stressful, unstructured, rootless life and method-acting a horrible, unstable character could have had a big influence on this event. He constantly moved? How healthy is that?
Having no experience with acting, I cannot really imagine how strong the effect of playing a role can be on a person. But psychological research has shown that a person acting a certain way does really affect him.
Just wondering...
And to chime in with some of you: I'm not usually shaken or affected by the death of a celebrity, but the death of Heath Ledger 'bothers' me more than expected.
I did a scan of the last couple of pages to check on this being mentioned yet. The image linked below has some harsh language in it, so I would label is as possibly NSFW (considering the text is all bolded and huge).
It's from the Westboro Baptist Church. These brain damaged lowlifes are planning to picket Heath Ledger's funeral. They sure seem to love the word "fag" as well. I was considering making a seperate topic about the WBC, not just about this but about their picketing of other funerals, but I wouldn't do it any justice.
I did a scan of the last couple of pages to check on this being mentioned yet. The image linked below has some harsh language in it, so I would label is as possibly NSFW (considering the text is all bolded and huge).
It's from the Westboro Baptist Church. These brain damaged lowlifes are planning to picket Heath Ledger's funeral. They sure seem to love the word "fag" as well. I was considering making a seperate topic about the WBC, not just about this but about their picketing of other funerals, but I wouldn't do it any justice.
I saw this, and while being horrible. It's not even remotely out of character for the WBC. The thing is, the funeral will quite possibly be in Australia and I don't think the WBC has the cash to get their crazy congregation all the way there. This is probably just a move to grab attention and it just smacks of opportunism on their part.
On their use of "fag" I once heard an interview with Fred Phelps' son where he described, through some very convoluted logic and their interpretation of bible passages, that fag is a perfectly biblical word and therefore perfectly ok to use.
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I did a scan of the last couple of pages to check on this being mentioned yet. The image linked below has some harsh language in it, so I would label is as possibly NSFW (considering the text is all bolded and huge).
It's from the Westboro Baptist Church. These brain damaged lowlifes are planning to picket Heath Ledger's funeral. They sure seem to love the word "fag" as well. I was considering making a seperate topic about the WBC, not just about this but about their picketing of other funerals, but I wouldn't do it any justice.
I saw this, and while being horrible. It's not even remotely out of character for the WBC. The thing is, the funeral will quite possibly be in Australia and I don't think the WBC has the cash to get their crazy congregation all the way there. This is probably just a move to grab attention and it just smacks of opportunism on their part.
On their use of "fag" I once heard an interview with Fred Phelps' son where he described, through some very convoluted logic and their interpretation of bible passages, that fag is a perfectly biblical word and therefore perfectly ok to use.
... what?! How... I... grah.
I hope the funeral is out of reach for them. But I was just told that a law was passed because of these idiots that prevents them (or any other protests) from being within 500 feet of the funeral itself. If it goes to Australia, they'll be free to do what they want (assuming they actually go) (and assuming Australia doesn't have laws similar to the one above).
This does make me wonder about the responsibility a director has over his actors, especially if they do method-acting. While this is just vague speculating, it doesn't seem unlikely that the combination of living a stressful, unstructured, rootless life and method-acting a horrible, unstable character could have had a big influence on this event. He constantly moved? How healthy is that?
Having no experience with acting, I cannot really imagine how strong the effect of playing a role can be on a person. But psychological research has shown that a person acting a certain way does really affect him.
Just wondering...
And to chime in with some of you: I'm not usually shaken or affected by the death of a celebrity, but the death of Heath Ledger 'bothers' me more than expected.
Hollywood used to do this but stars still did what they do now. In most cases, these actors are adults, and you can try and help, you can talk to them or give structure or offer to get them therapy or anything, but in the end you're dealing with an adult who may not want your help.
That being said, sad news for his family and friends.
From what I understand, the book of Leviticus has some crazy rules. Anybody up for, if they actually manage to follow through with their inanity, picketing the picketers? That is, grabbing passages from their document and throwing it their faces? Such as, I do believe Lev. mentions something about having a full beard; that'd be a good thing to use.
Or would that just be childish?
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From what I understand, the book of Leviticus has some crazy rules. Anybody up for, if they actually manage to follow through with their inanity, picketing the picketers? That is, grabbing passages from their document and throwing it their faces? Such as, I do believe Lev. mentions something about having a full beard; that'd be a good thing to use.
Or would that just be childish?
As much as I'd love to see (maybe even do) such a thing as retaliating in such a fashion, it isn't going to help. I guess it depends on how humiliated they feel. Which probably won't be easy to achieve, given that they seem to have no fear in what they do.
From what I understand, the book of Leviticus has some crazy rules. Anybody up for, if they actually manage to follow through with their inanity, picketing the picketers? That is, grabbing passages from their document and throwing it their faces? Such as, I do believe Lev. mentions something about having a full beard; that'd be a good thing to use.
Or would that just be childish?
Just have a sign that says god hates figs and stand next to them.
I liked the www.godhatesgodhatesfags.com idea... would be funny. I think if you stood with them, with signs saying things like 'God Hates Shellfish' or 'God Hates Garments Made Of Two Fabrics', with appropriate imagary, saying nothing, just trying to blend in... that'd be funny, and prove a point. Someone really needs to mock up some potential posters for that.
EDIT: Oh, someone has already got hold of that site... maybe a better laid out, and satirical site would be more appropriate?
From what I understand, the book of Leviticus has some crazy rules. Anybody up for, if they actually manage to follow through with their inanity, picketing the picketers? That is, grabbing passages from their document and throwing it their faces? Such as, I do believe Lev. mentions something about having a full beard; that'd be a good thing to use.
Or would that just be childish?
As much as I'd love to see (maybe even do) such a thing as retaliating in such a fashion, it isn't going to help. I guess it depends on how humiliated they feel. Which probably won't be easy to achieve, given that they seem to have no fear in what they do.
I always thought the best retaliation would be for people to stand in front of them with signs plastered with scenes of hardcore gay sex. That and to hold the worlds biggest gay orgy on the grave of Fred Phelps after he finally dies.
From what I understand, the book of Leviticus has some crazy rules. Anybody up for, if they actually manage to follow through with their inanity, picketing the picketers? That is, grabbing passages from their document and throwing it their faces? Such as, I do believe Lev. mentions something about having a full beard; that'd be a good thing to use.
Or would that just be childish?
As much as I'd love to see (maybe even do) such a thing as retaliating in such a fashion, it isn't going to help. I guess it depends on how humiliated they feel. Which probably won't be easy to achieve, given that they seem to have no fear in what they do.
I always thought the best retaliation would be for people to stand in front of them with signs plastered with scenes of hardcore gay sex. That and to hold the worlds biggest gay orgy on the grave of Fred Phelps after he finally dies.
While that would be rather funny, not exactly gonna promote a great image. Paying them as little attention as possible, or just ripping the complete piss out of them without them really catching on is the best way to undermine them really. Not that many people take them seriously anyway, as I say... they're just a nuisense.
One of the articles said something about Ledger being on Ambien. I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with it or not, but it's an insane sleeping pill. I was on it for a bit (being a new cop, I saw things people just shouldn't see) and couldn't sleep for a damn when I got home. For about a week when I would take Ambien I would actually hallucinate, like I was on acid or lsd.
Luckily for me, I only woke up to find that I re-arranged my living room or cleaned my guns or something. The thing about though, I didn't remember doing any of that shit. Once I went back to my doctor he took me off it right away saying a lot of people have a negative reaction to it, and do things they don't even remember.
If Heath was on Ambien - then I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that he wasn't in complete control of himself and overdosed himself in a hallucination.
And to chime in with some of you: I'm not usually shaken or affected by the death of a celebrity, but the death of Heath Ledger 'bothers' me more than expected.
And to chime in with some of you: I'm not usually shaken or affected by the death of a celebrity, but the death of Heath Ledger 'bothers' me more than expected.
Heath Ledger is not a celebrity, but an actor.
Seriously, and it really kills me when people say "hey maybe it's a publicity stunt!".
None of that crazy stuff was his style, he really was in it for the art.
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He was actually turning into The Joker. Holy shit.
There was a combination of over-the-counter and prescription meds.
Yeah. Although The Penguin is probably the worst villain I could have chosen. As he's the least psychotic and may only lead Hoffman to start wearing a monocle and carrying an umbrella. Which, in my eyes, would only make him more awesome.
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So it could have been poorly prescribed sleeping pills that just fucked him up.
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It's what makes this series so damn good. In any case, I don't think method acting had something to do with Ledger's death, as filming was wrapped and he was doing a different movie, so the Joker should have been long since "released" by now. I'd say it probably had more to do with the medicine combined with pneumonia. I mean, pneumonia doesn't play. Without treatment, it's just as fatal as it's always been.
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Also, I'd think there's a big emotional and psychological difference between method acting Batman and method acting the Joker. Batman, at least, channels all his instability toward a coherent, positive focus. There's a redemptive aspect to the things Batman does. Joker is just... raw chaos.
I would have to attribute method acting to at least some of Ledger's emotional instability as he admitted to the press about his insomnia, restlessness etc. The character of the Joker is an incredible undertaking and I imagine could be extremely taxing to his psyche: immersing himself into the position of an un-empathetic, twisted, murderous, sociopath. Though I won't say that method acting is to "blame" for his suicide--if it indeed was intentional--I wouldn't peg it as out-right impossible that it had a detrimental effect on his identity management. That--in turn--could have led him to this very unfortunate reality. Whatever it was, it's all very sad.
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But I'll admit, my immediate reaction was that this may just be the universe atoning for A Knight's Tale, followed by OH SHIT BATMAN!
Ditto, man.
They were alright...
And hey! Aeroplane races!
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It's from the Westboro Baptist Church. These brain damaged lowlifes are planning to picket Heath Ledger's funeral. They sure seem to love the word "fag" as well. I was considering making a seperate topic about the WBC, not just about this but about their picketing of other funerals, but I wouldn't do it any justice.
On the subject of the WBC - I sure hope those motorcycle fellas turn up to block these shitbags from the view of the family, like they have done at many military funerals. I don't understand what WBC hope to achieve besides getting a beating... they must realise that their message is backwards and will have no sway over most modern, free thinking people. Using a time of grief to push their agenda is just sickening, and I hope that they are stopped somehow, or at least allowed no-where near the ceremony.
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I'm not saying the director should be blamed per sé, but is it strange to suggest stronger 'monitoring' of actors playing difficult roles? Compare it to some in the medical profession, or maybe firemen, or cops; they're mental health is watched over (to some degree), isn't it?
Having no experience with acting, I cannot really imagine how strong the effect of playing a role can be on a person. But psychological research has shown that a person acting a certain way does really affect him.
Just wondering...
And to chime in with some of you: I'm not usually shaken or affected by the death of a celebrity, but the death of Heath Ledger 'bothers' me more than expected.
You have to be fucking kidding me... :x
I saw this, and while being horrible. It's not even remotely out of character for the WBC. The thing is, the funeral will quite possibly be in Australia and I don't think the WBC has the cash to get their crazy congregation all the way there. This is probably just a move to grab attention and it just smacks of opportunism on their part.
On their use of "fag" I once heard an interview with Fred Phelps' son where he described, through some very convoluted logic and their interpretation of bible passages, that fag is a perfectly biblical word and therefore perfectly ok to use.
... what?! How... I... grah.
I hope the funeral is out of reach for them. But I was just told that a law was passed because of these idiots that prevents them (or any other protests) from being within 500 feet of the funeral itself. If it goes to Australia, they'll be free to do what they want (assuming they actually go) (and assuming Australia doesn't have laws similar to the one above).
Hollywood used to do this but stars still did what they do now. In most cases, these actors are adults, and you can try and help, you can talk to them or give structure or offer to get them therapy or anything, but in the end you're dealing with an adult who may not want your help.
That being said, sad news for his family and friends.
Or would that just be childish?
As much as I'd love to see (maybe even do) such a thing as retaliating in such a fashion, it isn't going to help. I guess it depends on how humiliated they feel. Which probably won't be easy to achieve, given that they seem to have no fear in what they do.
Just have a sign that says god hates figs and stand next to them.
EDIT: Oh, someone has already got hold of that site... maybe a better laid out, and satirical site would be more appropriate?
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I always thought the best retaliation would be for people to stand in front of them with signs plastered with scenes of hardcore gay sex. That and to hold the worlds biggest gay orgy on the grave of Fred Phelps after he finally dies.
While that would be rather funny, not exactly gonna promote a great image. Paying them as little attention as possible, or just ripping the complete piss out of them without them really catching on is the best way to undermine them really. Not that many people take them seriously anyway, as I say... they're just a nuisense.
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Luckily for me, I only woke up to find that I re-arranged my living room or cleaned my guns or something. The thing about though, I didn't remember doing any of that shit. Once I went back to my doctor he took me off it right away saying a lot of people have a negative reaction to it, and do things they don't even remember.
If Heath was on Ambien - then I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that he wasn't in complete control of himself and overdosed himself in a hallucination.
Jay Leno, je vous accuse.
Heath Ledger is not a celebrity, but an actor.
None of that crazy stuff was his style, he really was in it for the art.