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Well shits guys, they've figured us out: US spies have decided World of Warcraft (along with other MMO's of course) is ridden with terrorists, and are working to be able to detect "suspisious behavoir and actions in the virual world" and take approprate action.
Thanks for the warning Yahoo!, I'll be sure to keep my terrorist activism on the down low while they've got their spies in my game... although I doubt the frequency of T-Bagging Alliance will subside much.
Perhaps someone should inform them of John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.
Lilly
P.S. I'm not a terrorist
I like my country
and fish.
no, more discourse really... this is the Debate and Discourse fourm, yes?
I guess I'm really more curious as to why in the world (of warcraft?) they would think terrorists reside in MMO[RPGs] in such high numbers that Congress would agree to the investigation of online gaming profiles in order to detect terrorism?
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2008
I can see how an overly paranoid DHS worker would look at an MMO and see the potential for secretive communication. It's much harder to filter out the chatter and find something suspicious over WoW, especially factoring in 3rd party programs like ventrilo, than say a phone conversation, of which NSA keeps records of every one that takes place in the country.
But even if they dedicate the time and effort to sifting through WoW chatlogs for incrimination info, it won't amount to much, other than:
1) Terrorist leader using the alias "Chuck Norriz" is planning something big, and we can't stop him.
2) Legolass is trying to get "his dude" to "stop by later with a fat sack of [Ghost Mushroom]s"
I can see how an overly paranoid DHS worker would look at an MMO and see the potential for secretive communication. It's much harder to filter out the chatter and find something suspicious over WoW, especially factoring in 3rd party programs like ventrilo, than say a phone conversation, of which NSA keeps records of every one that takes place in the country.
But even if they dedicate the time and effort to sifting through WoW chatlogs for incrimination info, it won't amount to much, other than:
1) Terrorist leader using the alias "Chuck Norriz" is planning something big, and we can't stop him.
2) Legolass is trying to get "his dude" to "stop by later with a fat sack of [Ghost Mushroom]s"
This is being done instead of stuff the CIA probably should be doing, like figuring out where that Bin Laden guy is. Though, from what I've heard the CIA is so messed up and confused that it couldn't really find its own asshole, therefore some guy gets 10 million dollars to do this because otherwise they wouldn't be doing anything that could be pointed to as an accomplishment.
Of course, this could be an excuse to have all those people at Langley just sit around and play WOW instead of just sit around and wait for work to do.
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2008
Oddly enough, I saw a white van today with the Homeland Security logo on it going like 90 down the highway.
Judging by how dirty it was, they were probably heading to an Al-Qaeda lan party.
Haha yeah, aside from your run-of-the-mill D-bags, know-it-alls, and 10-year-olds, WoW chatlogs are quite terrorism-free.
The other question I have, is when would terrorists have the time to level a character and engage in their bad-man-plans?
-"Hey man, so when are we getting underway with 9/11/2008? Its been a while..."
-"Oh well we were planning on-- ah, crap I just agroed half of Nagrand! Come heal me."
Of course, this could be an excuse to have all those people at Langley just sit around and play WOW instead of just sit around and wait for work to do.
Some terrorists groups used to set up pornography websites to communicate, because they thought nobody would look for Muslim extremists on porno sites. And for a while, nobody did.
so how come for people who think themselves agents of Islamic morality, killing in the name of the ought-to-be world order, it's ok to indulge in strippers? Do they consider it an advance on the 72 virgins?
Some terrorists groups used to set up pornography websites to communicate, because they thought nobody would look for Muslim extremists on porno sites. And for a while, nobody did.
so how come for people who think themselves agents of Islamic morality, killing in the name of the ought-to-be world order, it's ok to indulge in strippers? Do they consider it an advance on the 72 virgins?
Seriously, you're looking for logic? I applaud you, but it's a fool's errand.
One unexpected consequence of the WOW plan: Manrik's wife will be declared as the CIA's most wanted person.
I think I see a flaw in this spectacular idea. Let's assume they can tap Ventrilo, all chat & communication, and then sift it with any degree of efficiency. They find suspicious chats! Cue court case:
DA - The accused were recorded plotting terrorist atrocities! Accused1: K, u use the C4 & claymores to take out president's limo, I'll cover with LAW from the book depository.
Accused2: Rgr
Judge - What online game was this? Defence - Er, Ghost Recon 4...
I think I see a flaw in this spectacular idea. Let's assume they can tap Ventrilo, all chat & communication, and then sift it with any degree of efficiency. They find suspicious chats! Cue court case:
DA - The accused were recorded plotting terrorist atrocities! Accused1: K, u use the C4 & claymores to take out president's limo, I'll cover with LAW from the book depository.
Accused2: Rgr
Judge - What online game was this? Defence - Er, Ghost Recon 4...
Seriously. I'd love to see the software they design to flag god only knows what as keywords, phrases, or subjects. I mean, we are talking about sifting through game conversations that deal with mass death and destruction b/c it's part of the game. So... back to what Monkey said:
hahahahahahahahahaah, fucking good fucking luck.
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Talkin to the robbery expert.
"This is where I say something profound and you bow, so lets just skip to your part."
You all need to read the source document. I had a skim over it a couple of days back and it basically seems to be a brief outline of potential areas of technology that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence would like money to investigate further. The virtual world monitoring is just one of many areas mentioned
no, more discourse really... this is the Debate and Discourse fourm, yes?
I guess I'm really more curious as to why in the world (of warcraft?) they would think terrorists reside in MMO[RPGs] in such high numbers that Congress would agree to the investigation of online gaming profiles in order to detect terrorism?
I'm calling it now.
Some people in the U.S. government play WoW (and other MMO's) and had the glorious idea that it'd be awesome to get paid to play.
"Hey Bob, you free tonight for dinner?"
"Sorry Dave, we're raiding Black Tem... I mean, I'm putting in some overtime to hunt for dirty, dirty terrorists."
Also; having the clout to hunt down and have the asshole rogue that stole your herb/ganked you beaten or killed .
Edit: having read more of the first page, I see that I wasn't the only one to come up with this idea.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Also just the idea of the government attempting to establish a profile of internet gaming communities, like a norm of internet-peoples behavior, really seems so rediculous to me. I dont mean to be a cheese by pulling out that "John Gabriel Internet Fuckwad Theory" strip, but it's so true... How could they create a profile of a community in which you can be whoever, do whatever, and say whatever-- none of which in any way has to (and/or can and/or does) reflect your true nature.
That said, with people able to do/say/act/be whatever, whenever, however they want, how would they be able to differentiate suspicious behavior from some douchebag that likes general chat a little too much?
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edited February 2008
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I mean, LOLCIALOL, but other than that, what?
I guess I'm really more curious as to why in the world (of warcraft?) they would think terrorists reside in MMO[RPGs] in such high numbers that Congress would agree to the investigation of online gaming profiles in order to detect terrorism?
But even if they dedicate the time and effort to sifting through WoW chatlogs for incrimination info, it won't amount to much, other than:
1) Terrorist leader using the alias "Chuck Norriz" is planning something big, and we can't stop him.
2) Legolass is trying to get "his dude" to "stop by later with a fat sack of [Ghost Mushroom]s"
This is being done instead of stuff the CIA probably should be doing, like figuring out where that Bin Laden guy is. Though, from what I've heard the CIA is so messed up and confused that it couldn't really find its own asshole, therefore some guy gets 10 million dollars to do this because otherwise they wouldn't be doing anything that could be pointed to as an accomplishment.
Of course, this could be an excuse to have all those people at Langley just sit around and play WOW instead of just sit around and wait for work to do.
Judging by how dirty it was, they were probably heading to an Al-Qaeda lan party.
The other question I have, is when would terrorists have the time to level a character and engage in their bad-man-plans?
-"Hey man, so when are we getting underway with 9/11/2008? Its been a while..."
-"Oh well we were planning on-- ah, crap I just agroed half of Nagrand! Come heal me."
They'll never figure it out.
This is clearly the advent of fascism.
That's ingenious!
Agent: Staging a raid on a terrorist boss, sir!
Boss: Good, keep up the good work!
jesus
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Already a thread on this in G&T.
Also, posters managed to work in this by page 4.
Government organizations have this little credo: "Protect the budget."
That means you spend as much as you can every single year to make sure you never get a smaller budget.
So they probably have the best graphics cards available and also vibrating chairs that speak gentle phrases of encouragement.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
HAHAHAHAHA!
Or whichever the most horrible of furry MUDs is still around.
Tapestries: OF TERROR
Dun dun duuuuun.
Next step, whisky-affecittiano sites?
Seriously, you're looking for logic? I applaud you, but it's a fool's errand.
One unexpected consequence of the WOW plan: Manrik's wife will be declared as the CIA's most wanted person.
IOS Game Center ID: Isotope-X
I think I see a flaw in this spectacular idea. Let's assume they can tap Ventrilo, all chat & communication, and then sift it with any degree of efficiency. They find suspicious chats! Cue court case:
DA - The accused were recorded plotting terrorist atrocities!
Accused1: K, u use the C4 & claymores to take out president's limo, I'll cover with LAW from the book depository.
Accused2: Rgr
Judge - What online game was this?
Defence - Er, Ghost Recon 4...
Seriously. I'd love to see the software they design to flag god only knows what as keywords, phrases, or subjects. I mean, we are talking about sifting through game conversations that deal with mass death and destruction b/c it's part of the game. So... back to what Monkey said:
hahahahahahahahahaah, fucking good fucking luck.
"This is where I say something profound and you bow, so lets just skip to your part."
If they do get into WoW, would it be illegal to raid their in game guild meetings? Obstruction of justice, assaulting a government agent, heh
I'm calling it now.
Some people in the U.S. government play WoW (and other MMO's) and had the glorious idea that it'd be awesome to get paid to play.
"Hey Bob, you free tonight for dinner?"
"Sorry Dave, we're raiding Black Tem... I mean, I'm putting in some overtime to hunt for dirty, dirty terrorists."
Also; having the clout to hunt down and have the asshole rogue that stole your herb/ganked you beaten or killed .
Edit: having read more of the first page, I see that I wasn't the only one to come up with this idea.
That said, with people able to do/say/act/be whatever, whenever, however they want, how would they be able to differentiate suspicious behavior from some douchebag that likes general chat a little too much?