Oh my God, how do you criticize Obama for the church he goes to and then call him a Muslim? Why do papers publish these letters, knowing the statements within them to be misinformed and the writer himself to be highly ignorant?
"he is essentially a Black Panther with strong Muslim views of America — an extreme liberal."
I could have sworn Muslims are not traditionally aligned with Liberal ideals. And definitely not 'extreme' liberal.
Nah, you're thinking about it wrong. Obama is a Muslim and he is also an extreme liberal. Therefore, Muslims are generally extremely liberal. And therefore, Obama is an extreme liberal Muslim. Solve for x.
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Heh, well, as a bit of clarification, I attend probably one of the most liberal colleges out there, Reed College. So yeah, communism is definitely alive and well around these parts.
What???
I am also a Reedie.
And I should be working on my thesis instead of posting here.
"he is essentially a Black Panther with strong Muslim views of America — an extreme liberal."
I could have sworn Muslims are not traditionally aligned with Liberal ideals. And definitely not 'extreme' liberal.
Nah, you're thinking about it wrong. Obama is a Muslim and he is also an extreme liberal. Therefore, Muslims are generally extremely liberal. And therefore, Obama is an extreme liberal Muslim. Solve for x.
I think you stumbled into something.
Wolfson needs to stress the importance of counting Quantum State Delegates, which are a little understood measurement for who will win the election.
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Say jotate, how do you feel about Hillary being the reason you've been put in the hole?
Good enough to start a website featuring the internet's new meme. Whatever goes on there needs to be simple, so I don't eat through the minimal amount of bandwidth I'm willing to dedicate to this project. :P
Say jotate, how do you feel about Hillary being the reason you've been put in the hole?
Good enough to start a website featuring the internet's new meme. Whatever goes on there needs to be simple, so I don't eat through the minimal amount of bandwidth I'm willing to dedicate to this project. :P
Any ideas?
heh, no ideas, but while we're on the subject, this is a ytmnd i made like two years ago
Say jotate, how do you feel about Hillary being the reason you've been put in the hole?
Good enough to start a website featuring the internet's new meme. Whatever goes on there needs to be simple, so I don't eat through the minimal amount of bandwidth I'm willing to dedicate to this project. :P
Any ideas?
heh, no ideas, but while we're on the subject, this is a ytmnd i made like two years ago
"he is essentially a Black Panther with strong Muslim views of America — an extreme liberal."
I could have sworn Muslims are not traditionally aligned with Liberal ideals. And definitely not 'extreme' liberal.
Nah, you're thinking about it wrong. Obama is a Muslim and he is also an extreme liberal. Therefore, Muslims are generally extremely liberal. And therefore, Obama is an extreme liberal Muslim. Solve for x.
All liberals are extreme Muslims or all Muslims are extreme liberals? One of these needs to be a thing.
It's been done, but you could make it an Obama-is-your-new-bicycle rip off. But instead of putting fake silly things, you could just paraphrase her campaign's silly things and add relevant embellishment's here and there.
HILLARY CLINTON DODGED YOUR SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA
HILLARY CLINTON NEGOTIATED PEACE FOR YOU IN IRELAND
HILLARY CLINON DEFENDED YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA
HILLARY CLINTON ANSWERED YOUR 3 A.M. DRUNK DIAL
HILLARY CLINTON STOLE YOUR PLEDGED DELEGATES
HILLARY CLINTON IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WOMAN LEADER IN YOUR WESTERN WORLD
Say jotate, how do you feel about Hillary being the reason you've been put in the hole?
Good enough to start a website featuring the internet's new meme. Whatever goes on there needs to be simple, so I don't eat through the minimal amount of bandwidth I'm willing to dedicate to this project. :P
Any ideas?
I don't know, but whatever you decide- count me in.
The recent uproar about Barack Obama's pastor has pushed a very explosive issue into the presidential campaign. The issue of our country's history with regard to race is one that Senator Obama literally embodies in his physical being as well as various political stances he has taken.
I'm responding to the attacks that he has endured because of the statements made by his pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama has pointed out the failures our nation has made in trying to live up to the words in the Constitution of the United States which state that "all men are created equal."
Undoubtedly, black Americans have had the worst time of any ethnic group in trying to benefit from that concept. The vitriol in Rev. Wright's words is a direct result of what he sees when he reviews how that has played out throughout the history of this country. This is not to say that there has been no progress made in those situations, but sadly that progress has been too often slow and grudgingly acquired. Because of the nature of the problems, which in many cases were started in the 19th Century, Americans in this day and age have to pay for issues that they didn't cause and shouldn't have to fix. But nonetheless we are stuck with the tab.
An example of this situation can be seen in the mess that developed in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck. Racist policies that were in place in the 1920s and 30s caused a hugely disproportionate share of grief to fall on the shoulders of the black residents of New Orleans. The decision to build homes in an area that is 12 to 15 feet below sea level, immediately adjacent to a lake and also located on a shoreline that sees hurricanes every hurricane season could only be seen as wishful thinking. This disaster was bound to happen whenever a hurricane hit the coastline somewhere near New Orleans. A direct hit wasn't even needed to inflict damages.
The incompetence and unpreparedness of the authorities who where supposed to do something about the disaster was seen by blacks as racism pure and simple. But actually the folks at FEMA were trying to straighten out a situation created by racist policies put in place 80 or 90 years ago. Again and again these situations rear up and bite us all and create more bitterness and distrust between different sectors of Americans.
Reverend Wright suggested in one of his sermons that AIDS was intentionally allowed to infect people because it would probably do most of its damage in the black community. White Americans see this view point as racist paranoia. But black Americans remember the Tuskegee experiment when black men who had syphilis were left untreated intentionally so the progress of the disease could be studied by government doctors. This actually happened and its memory has caused a collective distrust of doctors in the black community for which white Americans can not see any rational basis. Again we are stuck with dealing with the evil deeds that were done before many of us were born.
Many of those situations were created by the response of the people of the Old Confederacy who used the law to attempt to permanently insure that blacks would never be able to achieve equal treatment in any of the Southern States. The failure of Reconstruction to secure the human and civil rights of black Americans is the real problem at the root of the lingering racial tension in America. Southern citizens wanted to make sure that no black person could rise up from the poverty and ignorance that had been imposed on them from the days of slavery. Violence was a key component in enforcing the Jim Crow laws. Between 1889 and 1918, 2,522 blacks were lynched in America and nothing was done about it. I can remember the picture of Emmett Till who was murdered in1955. There was a trial of those accused of the killing but an all-white jury acquitted the accused in very short order. The people of Mississippi were very defiant in stating how sure they were that the accused would be found 'innocent', which was what happened. Soon after the verdict came in the murderer sold an article to Look Magazine which gave the details of the kidnapping, torture and death of Emmitt Till. The white people of Mississippi had nothing to say at that point and the rest of America seemed to shrug off the results as a quaint episode of Southern life. Contrast that scenario with the response to the murder of Nicole Simpson. When you do that you will get a sense of why Black Americans are so paranoid about the actual reality of equal protection under the law. Just last week the Supreme Court threw out the conviction of a black man who lost his case in court because the prosecutor succeeded in his plan to eliminate all blacks from the jury. The OJ trial was mentioned during the time the case was in front of the jury.
White Americans could not consider the reality of police brutality against blacks. It took the Rodney King incident to start any real change in attitudes on that subject. If Rodney King had tried to accuse the cops who beat him of brutality he would have gotten nowhere. He was after all a large black man with a criminal record who was undoubtedly breaking the law. No white jurors would consider taking his word over the testimony of the cops. The only thing that changed the situation was an undeniable video tape that proved to anyone with any common sense that the beating was way beyond a routine traffic stop. It doesn't surprise black Americans that DNA testing has uncovered dozens of unjustly convicted black prisoners. The faulty eyewitness testimony that figured so prominently in the conviction of these men is another symptom of racial divide. White jurors are too often comfortable with doubtful testimony if the accused is black. Prosecutors can make their careers by keeping those dangerous black thugs off the streets. Justice falls by the wayside in far too many cases.
I am mentioning these events to give a more complete background to Rev. Wright's comments from his pulpit. From his perspective, America is not always able to deliver on some very important issues and the effect on him over time is to become enraged and at times to overreact. The wonderful thing about life in America is that we can address and remedy even the worst of problems when the collective will of our nation comes into play. The Civil Rights movement would never have achieved what it did if this were not true. That potential gives us the hope that Senator Obama so articulately identifies as the force that can bring us together to affect positive change. I for one hope that people will unite and work together to make sure that the unfortunate events of the past do not kill the positive potential of our future. Together we can make the dreams of the Founding Fathers a reality for all Americans.
Anyone paying attention to McCains foreign policy speech right now?
I'm going to have to read the transcript because so far I've only caught headlines like "we must try and cure the continent of Africa from malaria" and "We must expand the power and reach of freedom"
Maybe he'll tell us who we are attackin.......I mean bringing freedom to.
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No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
The recent uproar about Barack Obama's pastor has pushed a very explosive issue into the presidential campaign. The issue of our country's history with regard to race is one that Senator Obama literally embodies in his physical being as well as various political stances he has taken.
I'm responding to the attacks that he has endured because of the statements made by his pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama has pointed out the failures our nation has made in trying to live up to the words in the Constitution of the United States which state that "all men are created equal."
Undoubtedly, black Americans have had the worst time of any ethnic group in trying to benefit from that concept. The vitriol in Rev. Wright's words is a direct result of what he sees when he reviews how that has played out throughout the history of this country. This is not to say that there has been no progress made in those situations, but sadly that progress has been too often slow and grudgingly acquired. Because of the nature of the problems, which in many cases were started in the 19th Century, Americans in this day and age have to pay for issues that they didn't cause and shouldn't have to fix. But nonetheless we are stuck with the tab.
An example of this situation can be seen in the mess that developed in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck. Racist policies that were in place in the 1920s and 30s caused a hugely disproportionate share of grief to fall on the shoulders of the black residents of New Orleans. The decision to build homes in an area that is 12 to 15 feet below sea level, immediately adjacent to a lake and also located on a shoreline that sees hurricanes every hurricane season could only be seen as wishful thinking. This disaster was bound to happen whenever a hurricane hit the coastline somewhere near New Orleans. A direct hit wasn't even needed to inflict damages.
The incompetence and unpreparedness of the authorities who where supposed to do something about the disaster was seen by blacks as racism pure and simple. But actually the folks at FEMA were trying to straighten out a situation created by racist policies put in place 80 or 90 years ago. Again and again these situations rear up and bite us all and create more bitterness and distrust between different sectors of Americans.
Reverend Wright suggested in one of his sermons that AIDS was intentionally allowed to infect people because it would probably do most of its damage in the black community. White Americans see this view point as racist paranoia. But black Americans remember the Tuskegee experiment when black men who had syphilis were left untreated intentionally so the progress of the disease could be studied by government doctors. This actually happened and its memory has caused a collective distrust of doctors in the black community for which white Americans can not see any rational basis. Again we are stuck with dealing with the evil deeds that were done before many of us were born.
Many of those situations were created by the response of the people of the Old Confederacy who used the law to attempt to permanently insure that blacks would never be able to achieve equal treatment in any of the Southern States. The failure of Reconstruction to secure the human and civil rights of black Americans is the real problem at the root of the lingering racial tension in America. Southern citizens wanted to make sure that no black person could rise up from the poverty and ignorance that had been imposed on them from the days of slavery. Violence was a key component in enforcing the Jim Crow laws. Between 1889 and 1918, 2,522 blacks were lynched in America and nothing was done about it. I can remember the picture of Emmett Till who was murdered in1955. There was a trial of those accused of the killing but an all-white jury acquitted the accused in very short order. The people of Mississippi were very defiant in stating how sure they were that the accused would be found 'innocent', which was what happened. Soon after the verdict came in the murderer sold an article to Look Magazine which gave the details of the kidnapping, torture and death of Emmitt Till. The white people of Mississippi had nothing to say at that point and the rest of America seemed to shrug off the results as a quaint episode of Southern life. Contrast that scenario with the response to the murder of Nicole Simpson. When you do that you will get a sense of why Black Americans are so paranoid about the actual reality of equal protection under the law. Just last week the Supreme Court threw out the conviction of a black man who lost his case in court because the prosecutor succeeded in his plan to eliminate all blacks from the jury. The OJ trial was mentioned during the time the case was in front of the jury.
White Americans could not consider the reality of police brutality against blacks. It took the Rodney King incident to start any real change in attitudes on that subject. If Rodney King had tried to accuse the cops who beat him of brutality he would have gotten nowhere. He was after all a large black man with a criminal record who was undoubtedly breaking the law. No white jurors would consider taking his word over the testimony of the cops. The only thing that changed the situation was an undeniable video tape that proved to anyone with any common sense that the beating was way beyond a routine traffic stop. It doesn't surprise black Americans that DNA testing has uncovered dozens of unjustly convicted black prisoners. The faulty eyewitness testimony that figured so prominently in the conviction of these men is another symptom of racial divide. White jurors are too often comfortable with doubtful testimony if the accused is black. Prosecutors can make their careers by keeping those dangerous black thugs off the streets. Justice falls by the wayside in far too many cases.
I am mentioning these events to give a more complete background to Rev. Wright's comments from his pulpit. From his perspective, America is not always able to deliver on some very important issues and the effect on him over time is to become enraged and at times to overreact. The wonderful thing about life in America is that we can address and remedy even the worst of problems when the collective will of our nation comes into play. The Civil Rights movement would never have achieved what it did if this were not true. That potential gives us the hope that Senator Obama so articulately identifies as the force that can bring us together to affect positive change. I for one hope that people will unite and work together to make sure that the unfortunate events of the past do not kill the positive potential of our future. Together we can make the dreams of the Founding Fathers a reality for all Americans.
That's fucking beautiful. Too bad it'll get written off as a black man protecting one of his own.
Remember, it's the White House, people. Can't let the darkies in! :roll:
(Above statement appearing on Fox News in 3... 2...)
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User types in a statement, the site translates it into something awesomely Hillary-esque.
Example: "I rode my bike to school today" -> "I rode my massively awesome bike to pirate school today while dodging a thousand hand grenades."
It would probably take a lot of work to pull off well, since it would need to include a competent text parsing engine. Unless you could set it up mad-lib style, where every statement is of the form <person> <verb clause> <noun clause>. That would be pretty simple.
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Hey, did anyone see Anderson Cooper last night? He and a couple other people got to play Eviscerate the Stupid Hillary Supporter. Anderson asked the group (consisting of a Hillary supporter, an Obama supporter, and Joe Klein) if the timing of Hillary's comments on Wright were meant to draw attention from the Bosnia thing. The Hillary supporter went into some line about "Well, the important thing to remember is that Obama is a big fat liar, and lied about this and this and this..." and Anderson cut him off and insisted he actually, you know, answer the damned question, but he never really did. Then the other two kept talking about how pathetically desperate Hillary must be.
It was kind of nice seeing Hillary get slugged around for a change.
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"Yeah, well there was sniper fire, and the greeting party was moved inside, but there was this one little eight year old girl. Whatchagonna do? I bravely shook her hand before fleeing from the snipers."
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I could have sworn Muslims are not traditionally aligned with Liberal ideals. And definitely not 'extreme' liberal.
Nah, you're thinking about it wrong. Obama is a Muslim and he is also an extreme liberal. Therefore, Muslims are generally extremely liberal. And therefore, Obama is an extreme liberal Muslim. Solve for x.
Yeah, I don't think Mr. Tarver knows his left from his right.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
What???
I am also a Reedie.
And I should be working on my thesis instead of posting here.
I think you stumbled into something.
Wolfson needs to stress the importance of counting Quantum State Delegates, which are a little understood measurement for who will win the election.
"Students for a Democratic Society" was thought to be a front group for the Soviets back in the day. In any case, they're determined socialists.
"Let's see what are three black things I don't like..."
The ones in our campus used to be known as Solidarity. They're pretty nuts.
Say jotate, how do you feel about Hillary being the reason you've been put in the hole?
The ones in our campus are known as the Jesuits.
Good enough to start a website featuring the internet's new meme. Whatever goes on there needs to be simple, so I don't eat through the minimal amount of bandwidth I'm willing to dedicate to this project. :P
Any ideas?
heh, no ideas, but while we're on the subject, this is a ytmnd i made like two years ago
http://thatnotimportant.ytmnd.com/
not exactly a biting political commentary, but :whistle:
BWAH, HA HA HA HA HA.
Oh man, warn me before clicking shit like that at work.
All liberals are extreme Muslims or all Muslims are extreme liberals? One of these needs to be a thing.
HILLARY CLINTON DODGED YOUR SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA
HILLARY CLINTON NEGOTIATED PEACE FOR YOU IN IRELAND
HILLARY CLINON DEFENDED YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA
HILLARY CLINTON ANSWERED YOUR 3 A.M. DRUNK DIAL
HILLARY CLINTON STOLE YOUR PLEDGED DELEGATES
HILLARY CLINTON IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WOMAN LEADER IN YOUR WESTERN WORLD
etc.
I love Jesuits. They are one of the most devoutly spiritual, yet totally free-thinking religious groups out there.
I don't know, but whatever you decide- count me in.
Something hilarious to go on http://www.dodgingsniperfire.com/. Still trying to figure out what that is exactly...
I'm going to have to read the transcript because so far I've only caught headlines like "we must try and cure the continent of Africa from malaria" and "We must expand the power and reach of freedom"
Maybe he'll tell us who we are attackin.......I mean bringing freedom to.
Iran, Iran all night and day-ay-ay.
Couldn't get away."
That's fucking beautiful. Too bad it'll get written off as a black man protecting one of his own.
Remember, it's the White House, people. Can't let the darkies in! :roll:
(Above statement appearing on Fox News in 3... 2...)
An exaggerator-o-tronimatic?
User types in a statement, the site translates it into something awesomely Hillary-esque.
Example: "I rode my bike to school today" -> "I rode my massively awesome bike to pirate school today while dodging a thousand hand grenades."
It would probably take a lot of work to pull off well, since it would need to include a competent text parsing engine. Unless you could set it up mad-lib style, where every statement is of the form <person> <verb clause> <noun clause>. That would be pretty simple.
It was kind of nice seeing Hillary get slugged around for a change.
Hahaha.
"Yeah, well there was sniper fire, and the greeting party was moved inside, but there was this one little eight year old girl. Whatchagonna do? I bravely shook her hand before fleeing from the snipers."
:^::^::^: