Melodramatic Games

walnutmon

I just started playing Ace Combat: Fires of liberation and it's just starting to get to me that it seems like tons of games these days have become soft pansy fests of emotional crap. It's not like I can't take a good story, with quality characters and a wide range of emotion, but Ace Combat feels so forced that I sit there, listening to this wimpy blonde chicks inner monologues about her daughter and her stupid dead husband who painted her stupid name on his stupid plane before getting shot down, and I just sit there wishing it would end. I want to play the enemy, and drop bombs on her and her stupid daughter.

Go play with the angels.

Another game that struck me as just overly dramatic recently was Eternal Sonata. The game was beautiful and I couldn't wait to get into it... but after the first 30 minutes of wishy washy bullshit, I just couldn't justify spending any more time on it.... luckily it was a gamefly rental, so I didn't waste any money on it.

I don't want to sound like an over-testosterone driven buffoon, but can I play a game that gets me psyched up anymore without goofy stories about boring shit that noone cares about. I liked SOTC, I like FF7, I like sad movies and shit, but if you don't have the writing talent to pull off a emotional story, don't try, and just let me fire missles at terrorists that are developing super weapons to destroy the world. Please.

Fuck Gracemaria.

Anyone else feel the way I do? Or am I just a miserable fuck?

Lunysgwen

All of the MGS games - The ones on PS1 and PS2 anyways, and it's not all bad. It seems like you need a nice dose of action. Have you tried Portal or Hitman?

Sushisource

Lost Odyssey.

God the plot was awful and contrived.

Djiem

walnutmon wrote: »

Or am I just a miserable fuck?

Fuck yes you are!
While it is true that some games are way too melodramatic, Ace Combat was fantastic (in-mission at least, and during the intro). I feel more patriotism towards Emeria than Canada (or even Québec).

Go dance with the angels :x

walnutmon

Djiem wrote: »

walnutmon wrote: »

Or am I just a miserable fuck?

Fuck yes you are!
While it is true that some games are way too melodramatic, Ace Combat was fantastic (in-mission at least, and during the intro). I feel more patriotism towards Emeria than Canada (or even Québec).

Go dance with the angels :x

hahaha

But that fucking woman... she is just annoying the hell out of me, the enemy guy with the brief case is pretty cool though. The game in general does seem pretty good so far.

walnutmon

Sushisource wrote: »

Lost Odyssey.

God the plot was awful and contrived.

Damnit! I was really looking forward to getting that game from my gamer queue.

Damn you sissy game development writers!!! Damn you to hell!

Shadowfire

No, AC6's plot was generally looked upon as shit. Generally, the Ace Combat fans fight over which game, between 4 and 5, had the best storyline... 6's is pretty awful.

Erchamion

walnutmon wrote: »

Sushisource wrote: »

Lost Odyssey.

God the plot was awful and contrived.

Damnit! I was really looking forward to getting that game from my gamer queue.

Damn you sissy game development writers!!! Damn you to hell!

Don't let one guy on a forum ruin it for you. I'm about halfway through disc 2 and loving the majority of the game. There are certain annoying characters that could be removed without hurting the story, but it's definitely not the the point of "fuck this game it's dumb."

mastman

kyrandia

SimBen

Man, the MGS games are nothing BUT whiny bullshit (well, MGS1 and 2 at least - 3 has almost none of it, thankfully). You can't even fucking save your game without hearing about how Raiden's room is empty LIKE HIS SOUL and god she just goes on and on and on and they should've made an entire spin-off with just Rose whining because that's how long it is I mean you remember how long it took in Kingdom Hearts 2 before you were Sora yeah well that's about how long I'm talking about GOD.

Reznik

MGS1 wasn't really that whiny.

Well, I guess except for that "can love bloom on the battlefield" bullshit

Lunysgwen

I think the best part was when rose starts confessing she wants/is having his kid and he's in the middle of a boss fight.

Then again the Hari Kari Campbell is awsome at the end - I remember him telling me I was playing the game too long, and it really hit the spot. I had played through the entire game in ELEVEN HOURS STRAIGHT, in one sitting, and that bastard tells me to take a break.

SimBen

Reznik wrote: »

MGS1 wasn't really that whiny.

Well, I guess except for that "can love bloom on the battlefield" bullshit

I guess you've never killed any boss in MGS1.

OH AND SPEAKING OF KINGDOM HEARTS

Reznik

I need scissors! 61!

edit: point. I guess I just accepted it as the typical Japanese style of "hey, you know this character's whole background? HERE IT IS in one giant monologue". I wouldn't really put it on the same level as MGS2 whiny.

Marty81

Go play some God Hand or something.

SimBen

Also, just because he'd hate that so much, I'm gonna go ahead and refer to Squall in the past tense now.

Squall was a pissy emofag.

SimBen

Reznik wrote: »

I need scissors! 61!

edit: point. I guess I just accepted it as the typical Japanese style of "hey, you know this character's whole background? HERE IT IS in one giant monologue". I wouldn't really put it on the same level as MGS2 whiny.

MGS1 was already shattering the Cloud Strife scale (which is how whine was rated back then), but MGS2 just pulled all the stops and swung for the fence. It still hasn't been topped.

Zenitram

At least MGS1 had enough awesomeness to make you (me) forget about it. MGS2 most certainly did not.

LockedOnTarget

Screw you guys, both MGS and MGS2 were among the best plot-driven games ever.

And Cloud was not a whiner.

maximumzero

The ending of Sonic Adventure 2.

I mean, really, the fuck?

Reznik

Yeah I didn't find Cloud to be whiny at all, really.

He was more like "Hey guys, why don't we just forget about my problems and go kill Sephiroth k?"

Squall, on the other hand...

SkyGheNe

Man, all I know is that Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War has by far one of the best trailers ever. It gets me so fucking amped every time I see it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/9740.html

Then I played five with a friend and we both agreed...not a game for us.

Ohtsam

Lunysgwen wrote: »

I think the best part was when rose starts confessing she wants/is having his kid and he's in the middle of a boss fight.

Then again the Hari Kari Campbell is awsome at the end - I remember him telling me I was playing the game too long, and it really hit the spot. I had played through the entire game in ELEVEN HOURS STRAIGHT, in one sitting, and that bastard tells me to take a break.

I remember watching my older brother play MGS2 back when the PS2 really started to get popular and as a result memory cards were impossible to find
We had the system on for about 36 hours straight at that point and he thought for a moment that those codecs were meant to deter players whose lives were being absorbed by the game until he started hearing the really fucked up ones

SimBen

Cloud was WAY whiny by the time's standards. He was the whiniest, for a time. It's just that he's been outdone by the subsequent monstrous quantum leaps in bullshit technology.

slash000

You've got a fever, and the only prescription is:





Just reading the manual to this game will put hair on your chest.

Ohtsam

SimBen wrote: »

Cloud was WAY whiny by the time's standards. He was the whiniest, for a time. It's just that he's been outdone by the subsequent monstrous quantum leaps in bullshit technology.

He was also so completely fucked up mentally that once we learn of his ridiculous mental state and his inferiority complex its kind of believable. But some its just I'm angsty because I'm a complete retard whos in a dangerous situation I'm completely oblivious to while I whine

Renzo

SkyGheNe wrote: »

Man, all I know is that Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War has by far one of the best trailers ever. It gets me so fucking amped every time I see it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/9740.html

Then I played five with a friend and we both agreed...not a game for us.

Play Ace Combat 4. It doesn't match the trailer for Zero, but it's good. It doesn't have the bullshit that 5 has.

MasterHelios

You want dramatic, what about Nero in DMC4?

KYRIEEEEEEEE!!!

LockedOnTarget

Anyone calling Cloud whiny is remembering the game wrong.

He was pretty much the opposite of whiny. He had all these fucked up issues, and while everyone else is worrying about him he's basically all like "fuck it, we've got evil to stomp".

Cloud was NOT whiny.

Jebral

Man oh man.... I really, really love the MGS games, but they are awfully full of hamfisted cheese. But mostly in a good and enjoyable kind of way.

Then we have incidents like "Do you think love can bloom on the battlefield?" and "THAT DEATH WAS MEANT FOR ME ABLOOHOO"

It makes me squirm every time Fortune opens her mouth.

LockedOnTarget

Fortune was an good character IMO, and she still has one of my favorite deaths in a video game story.

But I don't consider the cheese in the MGS series to be a bad thing. The games clearly embrace it and so do I.

PunkBoy

I still prefer the story of Ace Combat 5 over 4. But I'm a big sucker for melodrama in games.

kaliyama

Japanese games seem weirdly emotionally stunted - like a lot of their pop-consumption manga. My suspicion is that this is a facet of gaming's popular appeal; while more obviously melodramatic, it's no worse than a typical american action movie in its lack of emotional connection. I think what bothers many observers is that the japanese melodramas are pretending like they are offering depth or some personality development when they shovel that crap on us.

American games don't fare much better. The ones that do tend to serve what, at least in comparison, are niche markets for older gamers- PC RPGs, and adventure games.

randombattle

What jeeze this whole topic on overly melodramatic and not one has someone said

I SHOULD OF BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=obPYsLZwhxE&feature=related

I don't think its even possible to be more melodramatic then that.

Sueve

Wow thats funny.

"I should have been the one to fill YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT"

Rotam

Kingdom hearts series.

Some of the cutscenes made me cringe.

acidlacedpenguin

slash000 wrote: »

You've got a fever, and the only prescription is:





Just reading the manual to this game will put hair on your chest.

super limed.

yes yes a million times yes. (Contra 4)

I booted that game up one day in the morning, before I got to the title screen I had a beard all the way down to my nipples.

Edcrab

Oh yeah? I had a beard growing from my nipples.

But yeah Contra 4 is pretty inarguably badass and so if you wanted to find soul-searching and dramatic monologues in it you'd have to supply your own.

Casually Hardcore

Kingdom Hearts 2

WTF is that bullshit?

I think I lost a inch or two from my penis after playing that game.

NickTheNewbie

Shadowfire wrote: »

No, AC6's plot was generally looked upon as shit. Generally, the Ace Combat fans fight over which game, between 4 and 5, had the best storyline... 6's is pretty awful.

5 had an excellent storyline, but terrible delivery. I hated the characters.

NickTheNewbie

Renzo wrote: »

SkyGheNe wrote: »

Man, all I know is that Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War has by far one of the best trailers ever. It gets me so fucking amped every time I see it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/9740.html

Then I played five with a friend and we both agreed...not a game for us.

Play Ace Combat 4. It doesn't match the trailer for Zero, but it's good. It doesn't have the bullshit that 5 has.

4 and zero are pretty much the best games ever.