My uncle had an old school Dalek book from the original Dr Who series that I looked at a few times as a kid, and I remember them having hover platforms and such.
My uncle had an old school Dalek book from the original Dr Who series that I looked at a few times as a kid, and I remember them having hover platforms and such.
Yeah they did in the Peter Cushing movies. They stopped needing them when they just made the Daleks able to hover and float up stairs during the 7th Doctor period.
As far as I can remember, the hover platform was just a disk with some type of railing to keep the Dalek from sliding off. Should be easy to make.
This is all assuming I can easily make a 40k scale Dalek. I have some of the old Dalek minatures made by another wargame company I can't remember at the moment. They are a bit small compared to 40k stuff, but should work for a base.
Wait, half the posts about Necrons are "They are tough to win against" the other half are "They are too weak and need a new codex"
Interesting.
Like what was said before, that's essentially the codex in a nutshell.
Half the units are ridiculously good at what they do.
The other half are either prohibitively expensive or outright useless.
I think a lot of the complaining is that, more then most armies Necrons are are not balanced versus each other army, against some opponents they are much more effective against others. Marines seem to have an easier time against them then say Eldar.
Wait, half the posts about Necrons are "They are tough to win against" the other half are "They are too weak and need a new codex"
Interesting.
Like what was said before, that's essentially the codex in a nutshell.
Half the units are ridiculously good at what they do.
The other half are either prohibitively expensive or outright useless.
I think a lot of the complaining is that, more then most armies Necrons are are not balanced versus each other army, against some opponents they are much more effective against others. Marines seem to have an easier time against them then say Eldar.
Yeah, and from my experience, terminator (or terminator-like) armies tend to do extremely well against Necrons, since they have only a single gun with low AP that has an appreciable range.
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Timspork, the most skilled thread assassin the world has ever known.
Well, considering he and SJ account for roughly 20% of all posts in this thread, it's a rather statistically likely event. :P
Timspork is actually a Callidus assassin. He's several of the posters on here: SJ, Ein, Sharp, and more. He'll make the last post, and then refrain from posting. It's good practice.
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Okay, on topic. Yeah, my Necrons tend to have a rough time against my friend's termies. They just don't die.
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Timspork, the most skilled thread assassin the world has ever known.
Well, considering he and SJ account for roughly 20% of all posts in this thread, it's a rather statistically likely event. :P
Timspork is actually a Callidus assassin. He's several of the posters on here: SJ, Ein, Sharp, and more. He'll make the last post, and then refrain from posting. It's good practice.
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Okay, on topic. Yeah, my Necrons tend to have a rough time against my friend's termies. They just don't die.
It's true. Why do you think SJ agrees with him so much?
On another note, 1500 point tau list.
HQ:
Shas'El: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Command and Control Node, HW Multi-tracker
(97)
Shas'El: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Command and Control Node, HW Multi-tracker
(97)
The idea is to be partially mobile from the suits and the mounted squads, but to have enough bodies to put down fire and be able to withstand attacks (going fully mechanized seems like it would give me an awfully low body count...not sure about this though, definitely would like to hear other opinions).
Do Daemonhunters/Grey Knights seem poorly executed to anyone else, or is it just me?
Because I played a game as Grey Knights today, and they really weren't terribly fun to play. I mean, they never really did anything interesting. Granted, it may have something to do with my army composition, but if so, I think it really serves to emphasize the problem.
For example, the defining point of Necrons is that they're tough, and get back up after dying. Dark Eldar are speedy and they screw with your Ld. Tau have superior weaponry. IG have tons of tanks/infantry/both. Orks... well, they're Orks. They all have a clear theme to the way the army plays. Daemonhunters... are good against Daemons. Quite good. The thing is, they're pretty terrible against anything else. And being good against Daemons isn't a theme. It's a feature of the army, but it doesn't factor in to the way you play the army. They feel like they're expensive Space Marines. They have some bonuses, sure, but it just feels the same.
Am I the only one who feels like this?
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The best thing you can do with the Daemonhunter codex is make a pure GK force out of it, unless you have stuff to ally them with. They really wanted to make the Daemonhunters like the 'super omgz awesome' units with prohibitive costs and all. They nailed the cost part, I think, but not the rest; I always picture them as the Imperium's thousand sons. I would much rather they lost The Shrouding entirely in favor of an invulnerable save (faith!), since The Shrouding is mostly pulled out of nowhere and relies heavily on luck and positioning.
The Aegis is good, though.
Really, while Grey Knights are good at both shooting and assault, they're outclassed by specialists in both areas that are cheaper. It makes the army a bitch and a half to play against armies geared towards one extreme or the other.
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I may have to crack out my old daemonhunters army to see how it does under 5th ed rules. I used to play with a pretty rough bunch of players and usually held my own in 4th (the exception being the nasty drop pod army that popped up around the time of the new SM codex).
1x4 Grey Knight Terminator Squad w/2 Psycannons (one is on the brother captain)
2x5 Stormtroopers w/2 meltaguns
2x Rhinos with extra armor, smoke
2xArmored fist squad w/Lascannon, plasma gun
2xChimera with multilaser/heavy bolter
1xLeman Russ w/triple heavy bolter
1xGrey Knight Dread w/Lascannon, missile launcher, extra armor.
At least, IIRC that was how the list went. It absolutely murdered eldar, dark eldar, and ork lists. Marines and Necrons I had to get a little creative with.
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So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I would be there in a fucking second if I didn't have to fly from Nebraska.
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
Hmm... same day I'm coming back from my vacation, so it's a possibility. With my luck, probably not.
Secondly, BoLS has recieved word that the Black Reach Box WILL contain a full mini-rulebook, similar to the Battle for Macragge set. That means a full set of rules (as opposed to a cut down version that would only allow use of the included minis) in a black and white format that matches the rules section of the hardcover release. It does not contain any of the the lavish full color army background, hobby, and campaign sections.
The best thing you can do with the Daemonhunter codex is make a pure GK force out of it, unless you have stuff to ally them with. They really wanted to make the Daemonhunters like the 'super omgz awesome' units with prohibitive costs and all. They nailed the cost part, I think, but not the rest; I always picture them as the Imperium's thousand sons. I would much rather they lost The Shrouding entirely in favor of an invulnerable save (faith!), since The Shrouding is mostly pulled out of nowhere and relies heavily on luck and positioning.
The Aegis is good, though.
Really, while Grey Knights are good at both shooting and assault, they're outclassed by specialists in both areas that are cheaper. It makes the army a bitch and a half to play against armies geared towards one extreme or the other.
I quite enjoy them! Also, I never really have too hard a time playing against my friends with them. I mean, it's tactically difficult, yes, but it's almost always evenly matched and very enjoyable, in my opinion. I like them because of their fluff, mostly, but also because they get things like Psycannons, Inquisitors, and the general feel of them. (which, now that I think about it, is pretty much just fluff all over again)
So what I'm getting at is, I really like their fluff.
How much is the mini rulebook going for? Or is it just going to be in box sets?
Just in the starter set. (that comes out later this year)
In related news, I just Pre-ordered the limited Gamers Edition of the new book, along with some other stuff to get free shipping (Limited editions are Direct Services only here...).
So I'll be getting that wash set in my order sometime in the next couple weeks... We'll see just how good these washes are compared to my own :P
The mini rulebook really does have everything, even the reference tables at the end with the dreaded space marine chaplain that now has the statline of a regular marine :P
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So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I'd definately be willing to try. No guarentees though- I don't know the actual schedule at the Movie Theatre that i work at- I MIGHT be busy....
And what time is it? I have summer school starting the next day, so if it ends later then 9:15 i could be in for a trouble night.
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I'd definately be willing to try. No guarentees though- I don't know the actual schedule at the Movie Theatre that i work at- I MIGHT be busy....
And what time is it? I have summer school starting the next day, so if it ends later then 9:15 i could be in for a trouble night.
I'm going to hazard maybe 10-6. They close at whenever-they-feel-like-it-late-at-night-o-clock, if I recall, but that should be enough for a game or two if you have to leave early. :P
I was reading the Ork faq again and noticed they say we can upgrade boyz in any order we want. So, acording to this, is it possible to give a boy a rokkit launcha, then upgrade him to a nob, and then give him a big choppa?
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I would be there in a fucking second if I didn't have to fly from Nebraska.
What about Canada? That's closer right?
Who wants to come to Canada to teach me how to play?!
I heard the mini rulebook was going to be a simplified version of the rules.
I'm hoping I'm misinformed because that would be unbelievably stupid.
Oh, YOU want to play Warhammer? Well first you have to buy this 80 dollar book. OH NO YOU CAN'T EVEN PLAY YET, that's just the rulebook.
The same stupid rumor dogged Macragge even after it came out because morons with tiny brains were utterly confounded by the fact that it came with a condensed rulebook, as well as a Macragge Scenario book.
The Black Reach mini rulebook will be the exact same format as Macragge. I believe there's already a leaked pdf of it out there.
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I would be there in a fucking second if I didn't have to fly from Nebraska.
What about Canada? That's closer right?
Who wants to come to Canada to teach me how to play?!
I might be able to play a game with you some time. The only problem is that I only have 2 armies painted right now... and both of them are Nurlge. :P
Maybe I'll paint up 500pts of Orks and we can have a throw down this summer.
So would any of you New Jersey-based bastards be up for a game of Apocalypse this Sunday? I've convinced Wulf it's a good idea. Maplewood Hobby would probably be the place.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
I would be there in a fucking second if I didn't have to fly from Nebraska.
What about Canada? That's closer right?
Who wants to come to Canada to teach me how to play?!
I might be able to play a game with you some time. The only problem is that I only have 2 armies painted right now... and both of them are Nurlge. :P
Maybe I'll paint up 500pts of Orks and we can have a throw down this summer.
Awesome! I was also thinking of making a 500 pt tyranid army as well. But not for a few more weeks. Or we could have an all nurgle dance party!
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Yeah they did in the Peter Cushing movies. They stopped needing them when they just made the Daleks able to hover and float up stairs during the 7th Doctor period.
As far as I can remember, the hover platform was just a disk with some type of railing to keep the Dalek from sliding off. Should be easy to make.
This is all assuming I can easily make a 40k scale Dalek. I have some of the old Dalek minatures made by another wargame company I can't remember at the moment. They are a bit small compared to 40k stuff, but should work for a base.
Well, considering he and SJ account for roughly 20% of all posts in this thread, it's a rather statistically likely event. :P
Oddly enough, it's been Tim pretty much every time though.
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I think a lot of the complaining is that, more then most armies Necrons are are not balanced versus each other army, against some opponents they are much more effective against others. Marines seem to have an easier time against them then say Eldar.
Yeah, and from my experience, terminator (or terminator-like) armies tend to do extremely well against Necrons, since they have only a single gun with low AP that has an appreciable range.
OH SHIT fucking egg beaters we're all screwed
Timspork is actually a Callidus assassin. He's several of the posters on here: SJ, Ein, Sharp, and more. He'll make the last post, and then refrain from posting. It's good practice.
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Okay, on topic. Yeah, my Necrons tend to have a rough time against my friend's termies. They just don't die.
It's true. Why do you think SJ agrees with him so much?
On another note, 1500 point tau list.
Shas'El: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Command and Control Node, HW Multi-tracker
(97)
Shas'El: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Command and Control Node, HW Multi-tracker
(97)
Elites:
Crisis Suit: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker
(62)
Crisis Suit: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker
(62)
Crisis Suit: Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker
(62)
Troops:
Fire Warrior Squad: 12 Fire Warriors
(120)
Fire Warrior Squad: 12 Fire Warriors
(120)
Fire Warrior Squad: 12 Fire Warriors
(120)
Fire Warrior Squad: 12 Fire Warriors; Devilfish with Disruption Pod
(205)
Fire Warrior Squad: 12 Fire Warriors; Devilfish with Disruption Pod
(205)
Heavy Support:
Hammerhead: Railgun, Smart Missile System, Disruption Pod, Multi-tracker
(175)
Hammerhead: Railgun, Smart Missile System, Disruption Pod, Multi-tracker
(175)
Total: 1500 points
The idea is to be partially mobile from the suits and the mounted squads, but to have enough bodies to put down fire and be able to withstand attacks (going fully mechanized seems like it would give me an awfully low body count...not sure about this though, definitely would like to hear other opinions).
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OH CRAP! THEY'RE ON TO ME... ER I MEAN US!
AAAAnnnnd I killed the thread again.
I mean really I come back to see how many posts there have been in the last FOUR HOURS.
Nope, none, just tim killing the thread again.
PS: um ... I wonder if any of my friends will pick up 40k again when 5th drops.
Because I played a game as Grey Knights today, and they really weren't terribly fun to play. I mean, they never really did anything interesting. Granted, it may have something to do with my army composition, but if so, I think it really serves to emphasize the problem.
For example, the defining point of Necrons is that they're tough, and get back up after dying. Dark Eldar are speedy and they screw with your Ld. Tau have superior weaponry. IG have tons of tanks/infantry/both. Orks... well, they're Orks. They all have a clear theme to the way the army plays. Daemonhunters... are good against Daemons. Quite good. The thing is, they're pretty terrible against anything else. And being good against Daemons isn't a theme. It's a feature of the army, but it doesn't factor in to the way you play the army. They feel like they're expensive Space Marines. They have some bonuses, sure, but it just feels the same.
Am I the only one who feels like this?
It is pretty bad. I can't argue this.
The best thing you can do with the Daemonhunter codex is make a pure GK force out of it, unless you have stuff to ally them with. They really wanted to make the Daemonhunters like the 'super omgz awesome' units with prohibitive costs and all. They nailed the cost part, I think, but not the rest; I always picture them as the Imperium's thousand sons. I would much rather they lost The Shrouding entirely in favor of an invulnerable save (faith!), since The Shrouding is mostly pulled out of nowhere and relies heavily on luck and positioning.
The Aegis is good, though.
Really, while Grey Knights are good at both shooting and assault, they're outclassed by specialists in both areas that are cheaper. It makes the army a bitch and a half to play against armies geared towards one extreme or the other.
We did this once before, but a lot of you suffered from 'I can't be on time to save my life'-itis. :P
Let me see if I can remember what my list used:
1x3 Grey Knight Terminator Retinue w/1 Psycannon
1 Elite Inquisitor w/Terminator Armor, Tarot, Psycannon
1 Callidus assassin
1x4 Grey Knight Terminator Squad w/2 Psycannons (one is on the brother captain)
2x5 Stormtroopers w/2 meltaguns
2x Rhinos with extra armor, smoke
2xArmored fist squad w/Lascannon, plasma gun
2xChimera with multilaser/heavy bolter
1xLeman Russ w/triple heavy bolter
1xGrey Knight Dread w/Lascannon, missile launcher, extra armor.
At least, IIRC that was how the list went. It absolutely murdered eldar, dark eldar, and ork lists. Marines and Necrons I had to get a little creative with.
I would be there in a fucking second if I didn't have to fly from Nebraska.
Does anyone know yet if there is anything missing from the mini rulebook?
The new one or the old one? The new one has all the rules and is just minus the fluff I think. (Or most of the fluff atleast)
Hmm... same day I'm coming back from my vacation, so it's a possibility. With my luck, probably not.
I quite enjoy them! Also, I never really have too hard a time playing against my friends with them. I mean, it's tactically difficult, yes, but it's almost always evenly matched and very enjoyable, in my opinion. I like them because of their fluff, mostly, but also because they get things like Psycannons, Inquisitors, and the general feel of them. (which, now that I think about it, is pretty much just fluff all over again)
So what I'm getting at is, I really like their fluff.
Just in the starter set. (that comes out later this year)
In related news, I just Pre-ordered the limited Gamers Edition of the new book, along with some other stuff to get free shipping (Limited editions are Direct Services only here...).
So I'll be getting that wash set in my order sometime in the next couple weeks... We'll see just how good these washes are compared to my own :P
I'd definately be willing to try. No guarentees though- I don't know the actual schedule at the Movie Theatre that i work at- I MIGHT be busy....
And what time is it? I have summer school starting the next day, so if it ends later then 9:15 i could be in for a trouble night.
I'm going to hazard maybe 10-6. They close at whenever-they-feel-like-it-late-at-night-o-clock, if I recall, but that should be enough for a game or two if you have to leave early. :P
I'm hoping I'm misinformed because that would be unbelievably stupid.
Oh, YOU want to play Warhammer? Well first you have to buy this 80 dollar book. OH NO YOU CAN'T EVEN PLAY YET, that's just the rulebook.
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
What about Canada? That's closer right?
Who wants to come to Canada to teach me how to play?!
The Black Reach mini rulebook will be the exact same format as Macragge. I believe there's already a leaked pdf of it out there.
I might be able to play a game with you some time. The only problem is that I only have 2 armies painted right now... and both of them are Nurlge. :P
Maybe I'll paint up 500pts of Orks and we can have a throw down this summer.
Awesome! I was also thinking of making a 500 pt tyranid army as well. But not for a few more weeks. Or we could have an all nurgle dance party!
Can't make it. Work is calling me in.