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I Hate Final Fantasy VIII, but love it so!

halkunhalkun Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
I do.

I really hate this game, but out of my entire Squeenix collection, I've beaten this three times now, and currently working on my fourth.

Why?

Why must I hate this game so, but yet play it? Am I looking for something? Is there some kind of light buried under the shitty magic system and piss-poor character development? Could it be I'm searching for a ray of hope in probably the worst plot I've ever come across.

I have to play. I somehow feel compelled to play.

It's just... It's just that it could of been so good! If it just would of used normal magic points... Maybe if Squall was a little bit more charismatic. Maybe if Renoa would of been a little more goofy. If they would of just made it so I gave a damn

I do though.... but I don't.

I don't know. It's just so odd that I want to like this game so much, but I feel so empty when I play it. Does anyone have games like this? Games you play in spite of themselves?

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  • KagnarosKagnaros Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I, on the contrary, love FFVIII.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I love FF VIII.

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  • AydrAydr Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Yeah. Me too.

    Aydr on
  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I enjoyed FFVII myself too. I didn't even mind the junction and drawing. It also has some really memorable moments.

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  • BulwarkBulwark Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I love Triple Triad.

    FUCK YOU RANDOM RULE

    ...okay, maybe you're necessary, because I just play the same high-power cards and win.

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  • HalibutHalibut Passion Fish Swimming in obscurity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Triple Triad.

    That minigame will forever make me love FFVIII.

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  • Asamof the HorribleAsamof the Horrible Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    MMO's perhaps...

    When I played Maplestory obsessively for a month and a half, I wasn't really enjoying it. I became pretty braindead, and I just let my fingers take over...I'm glad I gave everything away and uninstalled that shit

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Halibut wrote: »
    Triple Triad.

    That minigame will forever make me love FFVIII.

    As long as random didn't spread, that was awesome!

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  • MashalotMashalot Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    This is the only one of the three psone FF's that didn't make me want to barf.

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I love this game so much.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Psshaw. It only takes like eight or nine hours of card playing and resetting (more on the resetting, less on the card playing) to spread Open and ONLY open to every region. Maybe that rule that gives you more of their cards when you win by a lot too, but spreading open and getting rid of everything else is a worthy accomplishment.

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  • StopAndSwishStopAndSwish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I didn't realized you could pull the trigger on the gunblade and cause more damage till more than 3/4s through the game.

    Before that i would wonder why they never used the gun on it.

    I would play this again, but i only have the PC version, and i'm sure there will be a shitload of incompatibilities.

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  • D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I hate it.

    The twists were all lazy fucking bullshit. All the characters' motivations were unbelievable and made no sense. And you don't know a thing about the true villain until the very end. And you never even know her motivation unless you go out of your way to use the Scan spell and read her bio.

    It's poor story-telling, from beginning to end.

    And the mechanics blew. Monsters and bosses increasing in levels with your characters made for maddeningly difficult boss fights. The game actually punished you for leveling instead of using the tedious draw system.

    There was only one bright point to the whole game:
    The battle between Balamb and Galbadia Gardens.

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  • StasisStasis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I've had FF8 for years. I can't actually remember when I got it, but I've never beaten it.

    So pretty recently I started a new game, and I've been playing through it again. I'm on disc 3 now and I'm actually enjoying it a lot.

    The story and writing are pretty awful.
    WE ALL GREW UP IN THE SAME ORPHANAGE OMGWTF

    "What's time compression?"
    "Time compression."
    "Oh, it makes perfect sense!"

    But I actually like the characters this time around. Around disc 2, when you start getting Squall's internal dialogue, he stopped seeming like the obligatory annoying emo lead, and I guess I understood him this time around.

    The writing is still awful and the draw system is broken, but I guess something about the characters is keeping me playing.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I loved the world of FF VIII. The Draw system was annoying occasionally, but I still think it's worth playing through occasionally.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I hate this game. I think it was one of the worst RPGs I've ever played with one of the stupidest stories of any game ever. I also hate all the characters.

    I love the LP of it though.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    IX was where it was at.

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  • D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oh Jesus, I just flashed on all the sequences with Laguna and his crew.

    Those were just plain painful.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    So, everyone realizes this thread is soon going to devolve into a pit of despair, right?

    Schide on
  • StasisStasis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    In my current playthrough, every time I find a monster with new magic, I sit there for the next fifteen minutes drawing as much as I can hold with all three party members, and since I already drew 100 Curas with everybody, I don't have to worry about the damage they're dealing.

    And then I auto junction to attack and continue becoming ridiculously powerful.

    I hate wasting so much time drawing, but I'm obsessive about doing it, so I have a love-hate relationship with the draw system.

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    D.T. wrote: »
    Oh Jesus, I just flashed on all the sequences with Laguna and his crew.

    Those were just plain painful.
    WHAT

    Those were probably the best part. Laguna's limit break was just sooooo great.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    nine was better.

    nine was the best.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Mashalot wrote: »
    This is the only one of the three psone FF's that didn't make me want to barf.

    Insert "FUCK YOU" panel here.

    Furu on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Can you imagine what it would of been like if Renoa would of been a little more odd? Like Sarah Silverman odd. Funny, but take-a-step back-from-her weird. It sure of hell would of explained what she saw in Squall.

    Drop two more points in the charisma bucket for Squall. It's not that much of a leap from "whatever" to "ya know... fuck it!" (With a smile).

    That would of made the whole relationship thing kind of fun, in a dysfunctional sort of way.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    D.T. wrote: »
    Oh Jesus, I just flashed on all the sequences with Laguna and his crew.

    Those were just plain painful.
    WHAT

    Those were probably the best part. Laguna's limit break was just sooooo great.

    If by Limit Break you mean his most excellent Battle Theme, then we agree.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Reno's a dude from FF7

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    seriously let's talk about IX

    I know nobody likes it because there's no angst or motorcycles

    but that's precisely why I did

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  • D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    D.T. wrote: »
    Oh Jesus, I just flashed on all the sequences with Laguna and his crew.

    Those were just plain painful.
    WHAT

    Those were probably the best part. Laguna's limit break was just sooooo great.

    The characters were obnoxious, the monsters Laguna and his dudes fought were obnoxious, the sequence in the Esther prison was agonizing, and the obvious ties between Winhill and Squall's past hit you over the head with so little subtlety that I had a headache afterwards.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    halkun wrote: »
    Can you imagine what it would of been like if Renoa would of been a little more odd? Like Sarah Silverman odd. Funny, but take-a-step back-from-her weird. It sure of hell would of explained what she saw in Squall.

    Drop two more points in the charisma bucket for Squall. It's not that much of a leap from "whatever" to "ya know... fuck it!" (With a smile).

    That would of made the whole relationship thing kind of fun, in a dysfunctional sort of way.
    Reno's a dude from FF7


    Yea, fixed that... Spell check got me.

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  • D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Final Fantasy IX is fucking rad. That was a great game.

    Could have turned to shit when Zidane's origin was revealed, but somehow they pulled it off.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    seriously let's talk about IX

    I know nobody likes it because there's no angst or motorcycles

    but that's precisely why I did

    There's a whole dungeon of angst near the end of FFIX.

    He gets better though.

    Anyways, this thread is about "hating" FF VIII. Go spread your FF IX "Love" somewhere else.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    seriously let's talk about IX

    I know nobody likes it because there's no angst or motorcycles

    but that's precisely why I did

    I love it so.

    So.

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  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I don't want to ruin anyones fond memories, but about 100% of JRPGs on the PS1 had bad stories.

    FF8 was a good game, but not because of the story.

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  • SilentCoconutSilentCoconut Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    seriously let's talk about IX

    I know nobody likes it because there's no angst or motorcycles

    but that's precisely why I did

    I hate FFVII with a passion, and I never played VIII. IX is pretty much the only Final Fantasy that's still worth playing. And there's angst, Vivi just pulls it off really well.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I loved the junctioning system in FF8. Talk about being able to power up your characters.

    Anyway, there are two games I was so desperate to love but didn't enjoy at all. Thief: The Dark Project (Yes, heresy, I know, shut up) and Pirates of the Burning Sea.

    EDIT: FF IX was painfully bad. :P I've always hated the 'job' system because I feel limited. I like to set up characters as I want, not how the game says I should. Probably why I liked FFXII as much as I did.

    Also, is it just me, or have all the female leads in FF games post FF7 been based on Tifa. I mean, Rinoa was more detailed, but the resemblance was there, but Princess Garnet looks like an out of roportion Rinoa and Yuna definitely looks like Rinoa.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    D.T. wrote: »
    Final Fantasy IX is fucking rad. That was a great game.

    Could have turned to shit when Zidane's origin was revealed, but somehow they pulled it off.

    Probably because other than explaining his connection to Kuja and adding his "sister" to the cast towards the end it didn't really affect much.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Neva wrote: »
    I don't want to ruin anyones fond memories, but about 100% of JRPGs on the PS1 had bad stories.

    FF8 was a good game, but not because of the story.

    The Suikoden series says fuck you.

    Furu on
  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    I don't want to ruin anyones fond memories, but about 100% of JRPGs on the PS1 had bad stories.

    FF8 was a good game, but not because of the story.

    The Suikoden series says fuck you.

    Suikoden 3 was good, but only because it was on the PS2.

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  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    FFIX is wonderful but oh god loading times

    FFXII has spoiled me with its lack of random battle clap-trap

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Neva wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    I don't want to ruin anyones fond memories, but about 100% of JRPGs on the PS1 had bad stories.

    FF8 was a good game, but not because of the story.

    The Suikoden series says fuck you.

    Suikoden 3 was good, but only because it was on the PS2.

    You clearly have horrible taste in RPGs if you though FF8 was a good game and Suikoden 1&2 were not.

    Whoops, there I go.

    Schide on
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