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A Man Chooses, A Slave Obeys: Real Life Rapture
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Rapture To Become Reality
Sound familiar? Sound a bit like the premise of a certain popular game that came out not so long ago? Well, the similarity has not gone unnoticed.
So, what do you guys think about building such micronation utopias? Will this be another pipe dream ala Republic of Minerva and Sealand or will this actually come to fruition due to the backing of some major Silicon Valley entrepreneurs?
Also, if these seasteads actually come to fruition, will they be viable? Will they become independent or will they always rely on the charity of Randian idealistics (ironic, isn't it?)?
Wired wrote:Tired of the United States and the other 190-odd nations on Earth?
If a small team of Silicon Valley millionaires get their way, in a few years, you could have a new option for global citizenship: A permanent, quasi-sovereign nation floating in international waters.
With a $500,000 donation from PayPal founder Peter Thiel, a Google engineer and a former Sun Microsystems programmer have launched The Seasteading Institute, an organization dedicated to creating experimental ocean communities "with diverse social, political, and legal systems."
Sound familiar? Sound a bit like the premise of a certain popular game that came out not so long ago? Well, the similarity has not gone unnoticed.
So, what do you guys think about building such micronation utopias? Will this be another pipe dream ala Republic of Minerva and Sealand or will this actually come to fruition due to the backing of some major Silicon Valley entrepreneurs?
Also, if these seasteads actually come to fruition, will they be viable? Will they become independent or will they always rely on the charity of Randian idealistics (ironic, isn't it?)?
Also, I'm really hoping one of these is built and a bunch of genetically modified madmen cause it to sink. I think that would be fun.
Peter Thiel wrote:I am Peter Thiel, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No!", says the man in Washington, "It belongs to the poor." "No!", says the man in the Vatican, "It belongs to God." "No!", says the man in Moscow, "It belongs to everyone." I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.
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Dude, haven't you read Atlas Shrugged? You'd be better off trusting your health to the mighty titans of industry rather than the evil, moustache-twirling governments of the world.
Most insipid strawmen in history.
I don't believe so. I think you may be thinking of Freedonia?
Nope. Laissez Faire City was apparently the name of it.
Why is it always the Libertarians that always try to do this? Maybe it has to do with the ultimate value they place on property, so they feel that in order for their philosophy to be legitimised, they need to actually own a real nation and feel respected. Communists just form kibutzes and communes and don't really give a shit about their national sovereignty.
Libertarianism by definition equates freedom with strong property rights, so they cannot feel "free" for their value of free unless they own, which to them equates to having full and exclusive sovereignty over, the land on which they live.
It's cute, because by definition their world-view makes it incredibly difficult to fathom the idea that a Government wouldn't be interested in selling off parcels of sovereign land for cash.
Or that the kind that would take that cash wouldn't worry about legal niceties if they decided to take it back at a later date.
Yeah, 20,000 loonertarians were supposed to move there to bring on the libertopia. By their own numbers:
521 people. wow
That's the real problem with modern-day utopianist migrations. In the old days:
"Let's move!"
"For what!"
"Gooold, and corn!"
Now:
"Let's move!"
"For what!"
"Let's move!"
and no escape
And it is gonna be awesome when the city of Rapture because of a rapture in the hull.
or was that rupture
Punch me? Is that what you call a punishment?
Is Tortuga still a good place to go to find myself a ship and a buccaneer crew?
PIRATE WAR: I'm with the millionaires.
That alone convinced me that libertarians aren't living in reality.
Young people.
God I love this picture. We need a good Bioshock movie to shut down the GOP. Nevermind Bush. Nothing sends the message better than a Big Daddy with a big drill and a bone to pick.
I think that the relationship is too abstract for most people. Hell, we had people in the last objectivist thread who didn't realize that Bioshock was a parody of Rand, and then you need to go an additional step of connection Rand with the Reagan rhetoric of the early 1980s.
Which reminds me, I should post this again:
http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19870914
Love that comic.
The movie would have to paint Ryan as one of the people who hated FDR, and may have to go so far as give a brief history segment on the Great Depression. I love history movies.
Clearly we need to start construction on our pirate armada.
Seriously, that project is like the Mormons deciding that they want to control their own state, and encouraging everyone to move to Utah. In, like, 2008.
To be fair, what political system wouldn't be easier with robots?
There may be an added bonus of getting away from the poor people and the colored people.