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"Purity Balls", Or Objectify Them While They're Young

AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
This should make you cringe:
Dancing the Night Away, With a Higher Purpose
By NEELA BANERJEE
Published: May 19, 2008

COLORADO SPRINGS — In their floor-length gowns, up-dos and tiaras, the 70 or so young women swept past two harpists and into a gilt-and-brocade dining room at the lavish Broadmoor Hotel, on the arms of their much older male companions.

At a hotel in Colorado Springs, Courtney McAlpin, 14, of Minneapolis, listened as her father, Steve, read a pledge in which he vowed to follow evangelical ideals to protect her purity. More Photos »

The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law last Friday night to the ninth annual Father-Daughter Purity Ball. The first two hours of the gala passed like any somewhat awkward night out with parents, the men doing nearly all the talking and the girls struggling to cut their chicken.

But after dessert, the 63 men stood and read aloud a covenant “before God to cover my daughter as her authority and protection in the area of purity.”

The gesture signaled that the fathers would guard their daughters from what evangelicals consider a profoundly corrosive “hook-up culture.” The evening, which alternated between homemade Christian rituals and giddy dancing, was a joyous public affirmation of the girls’ sexual abstinence until they wed.

Yet the graying men in the shadow of their glittering daughters were the true focus of the night. To ensure their daughters’ purity, they were asked to set an example and to hew to evangelical ideals in a society they say tempts them as much as it does their daughters.

“It’s also good for me,” said Terry Lee, 54, who attended the ball for a second year, this time with his youngest daughter, Rachel, 16. “It inspires me to be spiritual and moral in turn. If I’m holding them to such high standards, you can be sure I won’t be cheating on their mother.”

Relying on word-of-mouth that brought families mostly from the thriving evangelical community in Colorado Springs and from as far as Virginia and California, Randy and Lisa Wilson built their Purity Ball into an annual gala that costs about $10,000, financed by ticket sales. This year, about 150 people attended the dinner, purity ceremony and dance.

The purity pledges for the fathers to sign stood in the middle of the dinner tables. Unlike other purity balls, the daughters here do not make a pledge, said Amanda Robb, a New York-based writer researching a book about the abstinence movement who was at the Broadmoor event.

“Fathers, our daughters are waiting for us,” Mr. Wilson, 49, told the men. “They are desperately waiting for us in a culture that lures them into the murky waters of exploitation. They need to be rescued by you, their dad.”

The Wilsons organized what was considered the country’s first father-daughter purity ball 10 years ago, as their oldest girls entered adolescence. Randy Wilson is the national field director of church ministries for the Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy group, and Lisa Wilson is a stay-at-home mom.

“The culture says you’re free to sleep with as many people as you want to,” said Khrystian Wilson, 20, one of the Wilsons’ seven children, including five girls. “What does that get you but complete chaos?”

For the Wilsons and the growing number of people who have come to their balls, premarital sex is seen as inevitably destructive, especially to girls, who they say suffer more because they are more emotional than boys. Fathers, they say, play a crucial role in helping them stay pure.

“Something I need from dad is affirmation, being told I’m beautiful,” said Jordyn Wilson, 19, another daughter of Randy and Lisa. “If we don’t get it from home, we will go out to the culture and get it from them.”

Recent studies have suggested that close relationships between fathers and daughters can reduce the risk of early sexual activity among girls and teenage pregnancy. But studies have also shown that most teenagers who say they will remain abstinent, like those at the ball, end up having sex before marriage, and they are far less likely to use condoms than their peers.

No one knows for certain how many purity balls are held nationwide, because they are grass-roots efforts. The Abstinence Clearinghouse, an advocacy group, says it sells hundreds of purity ball kits annually to interested groups all over the country and abroad.

Abstinence is never mentioned at the Colorado Springs Purity Ball, but a litany of fathers’ duties is — mainly, making time to get involved in their daughters’ lives and setting an example.

In a ballroom after dinner, bare but for a seven-foot wooden cross at one end, the fathers and daughters gathered along the walls. Kevin Moore, there with his three girls, told the men they were taking a stand for their families and their nation. Then he and Mr. Wilson walked to the cross with two large swords, which they held up before it to make an arch.

Each father and his daughter walked under the arch and knelt before the cross. Synthesized hymns played. The fathers sometimes held their daughters and whispered a short prayer, and then the girls each placed a white rose, representing purity, at the foot of the cross. Mr. Lee and Rachel walked away holding hands.

The girls, many wearing purity rings, made silent vows. “I promise to God and myself and my family that I will stay pure in my thoughts and actions until I marry,” said Katie Swindler, 16.

Her father, Jim, said he brought her to show her how much he cherished her after almost losing her in a car accident two years ago.

Loss tinged many at the ball. Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16. Mr. Clark brought Ashley, in her white satin gown, to show her that he loved her like a daughter, he said, something he felt he needed to underscore after Ashley’s father left her family a year ago.

Mrs. Wilson, the organizer, said that her father abandoned her family when she was 2, and that Mr. Wilson’s father was distant. One father said he had terminal cancer and came with his two daughters. Others were trying to do better in their second marriages.

“I’ve heard from fathers that this challenged them, to guard their own eyes, for example,” Mr. Wilson said. “It is a call to covenant which basically says I as my daughter’s father will be a man of integrity and purity.”

If most teenage girls would not be caught dead dancing with their dads, the girls at the ball twirled for hours with their game but stiff fathers. Every half-hour, Mr. Wilson stopped the dancing so that fathers could bless their daughters before everyone.

The dancing continued past the ball’s official end at midnight. Mr. Wilson had to tell people to go home. The fathers took their flushed and sometimes sleepy girls toward the exit. But one father took his two young daughters for a walk around the hotel’s dark, glassy lake.

Just...squick.

I really don't think there's much to be said about this "phenomenon" that the article doesn't say already. At least events like True Love Waits try to make it about a decision by the individual in question. These...these are just horrifying. This isn't about chastity and purity, except so much as those concepts fit into the patriarchal structure that is being reinforced. This is about making sure to keep women "in their place", pure and simple.

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    edited May 2008
    You don't stop somebody from becoming a whore by teaching them to be a madonna.

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  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    My balls are always bouncing
    To the left and to the right

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    My balls are pure and smooth like eggs.

    Seriously though, this shouldn't be much of a surprise to anybody. Besides, it's not like stuff like this works anyway. I'm pretty sure I read some survey results about a year ago that showed teens who make abstinence pledges actually break said pledges the vast majority of the time.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There is something profoundly creepy about this concept

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Abstinence-only education is the dumbest thing I experienced in high school, hands down. And what was with their insistence that the butthole is an exit only?

    It was such a joke to the majority of the students, too. The only people who took it seriously were generally the extremely religious students who you would expect to support such education styles. Abstinence only classes don't seem to convert anybody, at least in my experience.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    There is something profoundly creepy about this concept

    Seriously. It just smells of cheap booze, cigarette smoke and repressed memories.

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    Lolfundies

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  • chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
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    I cringe whenever people equate spirituality with morality.

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  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    “Something I need from dad is affirmation, being told I’m beautiful,” said Jordyn Wilson, 19, another daughter of Randy and Lisa. “If we don’t get it from home, we will go out to the culture and get it from them.”

    I think this is a good example of the main problem these girls are facing:

    self-esteem?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    Arranged Marriage - It's Not Just For Indians Anymore!

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    There is something profoundly creepy about this concept

    Besides any debates about the effectiveness of abstinence pledges, I think this point here is my main concern. I remember reading about these balls in (I think) Macleans a while back and I can definitely remember the adoring look of a 15 year old debutante gazing into the eyes of her 'big strong daddy' who promised to always protect her from 'all that thar wickedness' giving me a glurge attack.

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Speaker wrote: »
    My balls are always bouncing
    To the left and to the right
    Gold!

    And damn you for cracking me up while I'm on the phone with my parents.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    But studies have also shown that most teenagers who say they will remain abstinent, like those at the ball, end up having sex before marriage, and they are far less likely to use condoms than their peers.

    I didn't know about that last bit, and that's what makes me angriest about abstinence only education. This is why we have all these idiot white-trash teenaged girls having sex with their idiot white-trash teenaged boyfriends and then getting pregnant with his idiot white-trash child.

    And for the record, I attended high school in a very white-trash area so I'm not just talking out of my ass.

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    But studies have also shown that most teenagers who say they will remain abstinent, like those at the ball, end up having sex before marriage, and they are far less likely to use condoms than their peers.

    I didn't know about that last bit, and that's what makes me angriest about abstinence only education. This is why we have all these idiot white-trash teenaged girls having sex with their idiot white-trash teenaged boyfriends and then getting pregnant with his idiot white-trash child.

    And for the record, I attended high school in a very white-trash area so I'm not just talking out of my ass.

    Well, anyone who's spent any time around teenagers knows damn well this kind of shit never holds water. Don't the 3 states with the highest "abstinence only" education rates also have the highest teen preggers rate? I think it was Kentucky and a few others. Lemme go look for a cite.

    EDIT: Dammit google foo isn't helping.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    But studies have also shown that most teenagers who say they will remain abstinent, like those at the ball, end up having sex before marriage, and they are far less likely to use condoms than their peers.
    I didn't know about that last bit, and that's what makes me angriest about abstinence only education. This is why we have all these idiot white-trash teenaged girls having sex with their idiot white-trash teenaged boyfriends and then getting pregnant with his idiot white-trash child.

    And for the record, I attended high school in a very white-trash area so I'm not just talking out of my ass.

    Well, anyone who's spent any time around teenagers knows damn well this kind of shit never holds water. Don't the 3 states with the highest "abstinence only" education rates also have the highest teen preggers rate? I think it was Kentucky and a few others. Lemme go look for a cite.
    I would not be surprised at all if Missouri was one of them. In my grad class alone there were at least, oh, 10 pregnant girls out of about 80 girls total.

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Breakings news, evangelical scientists find that denial cures cancer and makes all problems disappear.

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  • valiancevaliance Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    What's wrong with that?

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This isn't especially unusual.

    Breeding a loyal, unquestioning work force is the whole point of well-controlled religions and cultures.

    If you want to be shocked wait until they find ways to use body modification, like they do with female genital mutilation in some areas.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    valiance wrote: »
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    What's wrong with that?
    That part, mainly

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  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's hard to say from that quote whether the author is saying the future fathers-in-law are with grade school/high school girls, rather than just with the college girls.

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Notice that college was in the latter part of that spectrum.

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  • GlaealGlaeal Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    valiance wrote: »
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    What's wrong with that?
    That part, mainly

    I haven't noticed a large problem with grade school arranged marriages in Colorado Springs.

    Maybe you're reading that a little too harshly.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Speaker wrote: »
    It's hard to say from that quote whether the author is saying the future fathers-in-law are with grade school/high school girls, rather than just with the college girls.

    What?

    "Loss tinged many at the ball. Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16."

    --

    You arrange them when a kid is really young, and make it clear that it is their sole purpose in life, and you make them excited about it while they're too stupid to think twice, so they become dependent on the idea.

    16 is just the legal "marry your underage kid off" age.

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  • valiancevaliance Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Speaker wrote: »
    It's hard to say from that quote whether the author is saying the future fathers-in-law are with grade school/high school girls, rather than just with the college girls.

    What?

    "Loss tinged many at the ball. Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16."

    I don't think that's so awful.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    High school promise rings aren't exclusively a crazy fundy thing

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  • chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Awful? Maybe not. A little fucked-up? Perhaps.

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Speaker wrote: »
    It's hard to say from that quote whether the author is saying the future fathers-in-law are with grade school/high school girls, rather than just with the college girls.

    What?

    "Loss tinged many at the ball. Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16."

    Whoops, missed that one. I know that the exchanging of promise rings is not that uncommon for teenagers in serious relationships, though that sentence implies that someone else is doing the promising for her. What sounds like an acceptable dowry these days, do you think they'd still go for the 5 goat routine?

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  • GlaealGlaeal Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Speaker wrote: »
    It's hard to say from that quote whether the author is saying the future fathers-in-law are with grade school/high school girls, rather than just with the college girls.

    What?

    "Loss tinged many at the ball. Stephen Clark, 64, came to the ball for the first time with Ashley Avery, 17, who is “promised” to his son, Zane, 16."

    --

    You arrange them when a kid is really young, and make it clear that it is their sole purpose in life, and you make them excited about it while they're too stupid to think twice, so they become dependent on the idea.

    16 is just the legal "marry your underage kid off" age.

    I knew more than one couple that was engaged while in High School, and none of them were even remotely religious.

    Just naive.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    valiance wrote: »
    I don't think that's so awful.

    I pretty much consider treating your children like breeding animals to be sick.

    But that's the kink people have had for most of history.

    --

    We need The Cat in here to explain what happens to someone who does not follow their fundie family's religious instructions.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The sentence is too vague, I think, to indict them on charges of conducting weird fundy backwoods arranged marriages

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Just the thought of early grade-schoolers being pledged to get married makes me a bit ill. I'm sure the vast majority of the pledged girls there weren't fourth graders or whatever.

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  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    valiance wrote: »
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    What's wrong with that?

    Assuming that "future fathers-in-law" doesn't refer to just 2 guys out of 200, and that a significant portion of these girls are in fact engaged, I think they're much too young to have made a wise and/or autonomous decision. I'm not saying getting married right out of high school is never a good idea, I just think it works out in such a small percentage of the time that, as a general rule-of-thumb, people shouldn't do it. I guess the best we can hope for is that the "fathers-in-law" refers to the 20-something college girls. And it's not just "Oh you're too young to get married" ageism thing, I truly feel that people tend to reach emotional maturity in their mid-20s, and entering such a long-term emotional commitment is a bad idea when you don't even really know who you are as a person.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    The sentence is too vague, I think, to indict them on charges of conducting weird fundy backwoods arranged marriages

    If it isn't true in this case it sure is true in others.

    This shit isn't even rare.

    Hell, the Hmong-American culture still has bride prices.

    They had to lower it this year.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Am I the only person who read that as "a couple of college girls were there with their fathers in law"?

    I mean, I found the whole thing creepy, but this Deliverance interpretation didn't jump out at me.

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  • valiancevaliance Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    valiance wrote: »
    I found this part particularly troubling:
    The girls, ages early grade school to college, had come with their fathers, stepfathers and future fathers-in-law
    These girls are already getting engaged?

    What's wrong with that?

    Assuming that "future fathers-in-law" doesn't refer to just 2 guys out of 200, and that a significant portion of these girls are in fact engaged, I think they're much too young to have made a wise and/or autonomous decision. I'm not saying getting married right out of high school is never a good idea, I just think it works out in such a small percentage of the time that, as a general rule-of-thumb, people shouldn't do it. I guess the best we can hope for is that the "fathers-in-law" refers to the 20-something college girls. And it's not just "Oh you're too young to get married" ageism thing, I truly feel that people tend to reach emotional maturity in their mid-20s, and entering such a long-term emotional commitment is a bad idea when you don't even really know who you are as a person.

    Well the marriage decision may have been wise, but it was almost certainly not autonomous--which is the real issue. I don't really see a problem with people getting married young, but the arranged aspect is a bit creepy. This purity ball thing is a really creepy, wrongheaded way of trying to prevent your daughters from getting pregnant before they're ready for it. The intent is admirable, but the execution and cultural mores that inform it fail epically.

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    edited May 2008
    Well, perhaps if you start browbeating horny teenagers that they can't have sex until marriage, maybe, just maybe they'll channel their repressed energy into dreams of wedding bells, leading them to rush into a lifelong decision far before they're ready.

    But hey that's just conjecture.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    valiance wrote: »
    The intent is admirable, but the execution and cultural mores that inform it fail epically.

    No, the intent isn't admirable. This isn't about keeping the girls "pure" out of kindness - it's about asserting and demonstrating control by the head of the household.

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