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Europa Universalis: Rome

ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
I was surprised to find out there hasn't been a thread on this since way before it was released.

So I decided to pick this game up finally, since I love Roman stuff. I wasn't sure what to expect because I've never played an EU game before, or any game developed by Paradox, for that matter. Thankfully I was in for a treat, and this thing has been sucking up every free moment of my life the past few days.

The premise is you begin a game by selecting a certain time period and faction. Time periods go from 474 AUC (since the building of Rome, which equals about 270 BC: The Pyrrhic Wars) and continue on until the last, which is 300 or so years later. Factions range from the big papas like Rome, Carthage, and Macedonia to the small guys like Achaea, Epirus, etc.

The gameplay is much like Risk, although not nearly in the same sense as Medieval: Total War was. Combat is completely computer-calculated, there is no battle mode like the Total War games. This focuses entirely on the positioning of fleets and armies, politics, province management, recruitment, things like that. The best way I can put it is like this. I haven't played M:TW2 so I can't include that, but: If you felt the diplomatic aspect of the Total War games was lackluster, then this is your game. Everything about this is deeper and feels more whole. The interface can sometimes be wonky where you have to go through four menus to find what you want, but generally everything else about it feels right.


Here's my game so far (pic included):


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I started a game at the very beginning (474 AUC). The yellow blob on the map is my starting provinces. After many bouts with Carthage, Massilia (my former BFF, RIP :(), Achaea/Aetolia/Crete, and others, I finally began pushing back and gaining territories (red) while forcing some to pay tribute or to annex their home provinces to the glory of Rome. Finally, almost exactly 100 years later, the areas of northern Iberia (Spain), thar-be-barbarian country (France) and Macedonia look ripe for the taking.


In summary: If you really like the Total War series and can do without the battle mode, then you should give this a try.

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    jedijzjedijz Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    What bothers me about Europa Universalis is that you can occupy every single territory in a enemy nation but when it's peace treaty time, you might only receive 2-3 out of 20 provinces.

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    taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I like EU:Rome, and it is a great game, but what bothered me about it is that it's basically EU3 Lite: In Rome.

    They removed features that were in EU:3, and stuck it in a dfifferent time period then called it a day (well, they added some new stuff, and some of it's really neat, but they took away some things I liked too). That being said I still like it as a change of pace from EU3

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    SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    How much does this game cost? I really enjoy anything with a Roman theme and have been looking at this, but I'm not quite sure I'll be able to afford it anytime soon.

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    FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    jedijz wrote: »
    What bothers me about Europa Universalis is that you can occupy every single territory in a enemy nation but when it's peace treaty time, you might only receive 2-3 out of 20 provinces.

    This. This is the most annoying part about the game so far for me. I get a casus belli against a faction, proceed to rape them and get a 100% victory, and they wont give up a lot of their provinces. The worst part is when they wont give me a province that cuts all of my winnings in half, making me have to crawl through barbarian territory to get around. Then I have to do it all over again until I can finally take all of their crap.

    Still a fun game though.

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    ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I haven't actually had any problems getting factions to cough up their provinces to me. When fighting Carthage I occupied all their island provinces and Carthage itself and they folded and gave me everything but Carthage.

    Then again, I didn't play before the 1.2 patch. I heard that fixed a LOT of problems.
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    How much does this game cost? I really enjoy anything with a Roman theme and have been looking at this, but I'm not quite sure I'll be able to afford it anytime soon.

    $50

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    taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, this thread inspired me to start a new game ..and first, screw you Zen for getting me re-addicted to a Europa game, and secondly, it compares much more favorably to EU3 than my original post had indicated /i remembered:P

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    ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, this thread inspired me to start a new game ..and first, screw you Zen for getting me re-addicted to a Europa game, and secondly, it compares much more favorably to EU3 than my original post had indicated /i remembered:P


    This is my first EU game....is that a good thing or a bad thing? I've also been thinking about picking up Hearts of Iron 2 because I love me some WW2, and if it's anything like this then I'll be set for the rest of the year.

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    taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Zenitram wrote: »
    Well, this thread inspired me to start a new game ..and first, screw you Zen for getting me re-addicted to a Europa game, and secondly, it compares much more favorably to EU3 than my original post had indicated /i remembered:P


    This is my first EU game....is that a good thing or a bad thing? I've also been thinking about picking up Hearts of Iron 2 because I love me some WW2, and if it's anything like this then I'll be set for the rest of the year.
    It pretty much boils down to if you like Rome for the gameplay, not just the setting, you'll also like EU3, its mechanics are all very close, just a different setting, different factions and some slight differences in the way diplomacy/religion/research work. 1 and 2 look and feel quite a bit dated now, so while they were awesome when they came out there's really no need to bother with them if you have 3. I haven't played Hearts of Iron 2, so I really can't comment on that.

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    Random IntegerRandom Integer Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I love the Total War games but auto-resolve a lot of battles so this game sounds appealing to me. You've persuaded me to check out.

    HoI2 is a great game but it's mainly combat oriented, by the sounds of it much more so than this one. Theres little in the way of province development and most of the diplomacy focuses around your responses to scripted events.

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Hearts of Iron was my first Paradox game, and I've since moved on to both HoI2 and the EU series. I enjoy both series for different reasons. Besides HoI2 is probably pretty cheap about now, so if you are enjoying another of Paradox's games, give it a shot.

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    DoronronDoronron Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You can snag the Hearts of Iron Anthology for $20. It'll give you HoI, HoI2 and both HoI2 expansion packs.

    In addition to EU: Rome, Paradox has been quietly churning out other EU expansions. One tacks on the Napoleonic Wars, and the other pushes the start date back to October 1399 and all the religious stuff that goes with it.

    The only downside to these is that I don't see a way of getting physical copies. They seem to be DD only through Gamersgate.

    Really looking forward to a Victoria 2 and HoI3 that uses this engine and allows for savegame transfers like the old ones, even if I am pretty terrible at these games.

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