PAX Fancypants Restaurant Guide

MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in PAX Archive
Hello All,

As it will be my first time in Seattle, I am looking to hit up some fancy dining in the area. Anyone got any recommendations? Also nice bars/microbreweries. Friends and I are staying at the Westin so would prefer something within reasonable distance.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Teh internets say the only four star establishment in the area is the Georgian.

    As far as pubs, last year I had a great meal at Kell's, which has standard Irish Pub fair. I had the stew, which was perfectly seasoned.

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  • CAP CbassCAP Cbass Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I was just going to post up asking the same thing. I need to know this as eating fast/junk food for 3 days will make my ass explode, get migraine headaches, and sleep for uncontrollable extended periods of time. The internet isn't helping much by searching.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Basically for good food the general recommendation is to try different places at Pike Place Market. I'm working on a general guide to food in the area at http://pax.wikidot.com/food but it's far from complete at this point. Hopefully this thread turns into people posting where they had good meals last year.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    CAP Cbass wrote: »
    I was just going to post up asking the same thing. I need to know this as eating fast/junk food for 3 days will make my ass explode, get migraine headaches, and sleep for uncontrollable extended periods of time. The internet isn't helping much by searching.
    LOL Welcome to the club of assplodery.

    Having the internal digestive system of a unicorn, hence they are all dead, is the main reason I can't eat shit and grease for 3 days.

    Kell's looks just like a few local places here in Texas so I think it might be a good lunch trip since it is cheap.

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  • LigerLiger Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    For Fancy non-ass-explodey recommendations, I summon ElectricTurtle!! I think he's been wanting to point people in the right directions for a while now.

    Protip: avoid the space needle restaurant.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Liger wrote: »
    Protip: avoid the space needle restaurant.

    San Antonio has the Tower of Americas aka Space Needle Part II: The Revenge. And yes, the food blows so I figured that as a no go. I am looking for places that the locals hit up also the kind of place you might only go a few times a year because eating fois gras daily is too fatty.

    I just also want to get the most out of this trip as I have always wanted to visit Seattle and just excited since I am teh noobtardz when it comes to PAX.

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    While I'm not a local, I enjoyed the Taproom and Dragonfish last year. Pleasingly snooty, tasty, affordable foods. Plus The Taproom has the wonderment of the beer wall.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've also heard good things about Earth & Ocean and Lampreia.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    While I'm not a local, I enjoyed the Taproom and Dragonfish last year. Pleasingly snooty, tasty, affordable foods. Plus The Taproom has the wonderment of the beer wall.

    Now that's what I am talking about Wifflebat. Dragonfish looks really good. Also if you know any dirty hole in the wall Chinese dumpling houses, please include.

    When it comes to beer I am spoiled at the Flying Saucer. I have pretty much already tasted every beer in the world that is shipped more than 100 miles hence I am looking for some microbrewery places in Seattle.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've also heard good things about Earth & Ocean and Lampreia.

    See that is exactly what I am looking for, anyone have personal eating experience at either place? Food? Service? Wine selection?

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Oooh, Earth and Ocean looks faboo.

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm not sure of how accurate they are, not being from Seattle, but Zagat has a bunch of fancypants things listed in their top lists. I invested in their thing on Seattle so if you're interested and PM me then maybe we can share notes or something--I was trying to figure out a fancypants place to try out too.

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  • BrennaCeDriaBrennaCeDria Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm not looking for fancypants so much, since I'm going to be quite broke from paying for my flights, but I NEED some good udon noodles. Is Dragonfish the best bet for that, or is someplace else better?

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Not to spam the thread or anything, but what is the local opinion on Salumi? I'm told it's fabulous but nigh impossible to get into.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    Not to spam the thread or anything, but what is the local opinion on Salumi? I'm told it's fabulous but nigh impossible to get into.

    Salumi looks like a NYC deli. Not to bash but just not fancypants. Is this the place?

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hypatia wrote: »
    I'm not sure of how accurate they are, not being from Seattle, but Zagat has a bunch of fancypants things listed in their top lists. I invested in their thing on Seattle so if you're interested and PM me then maybe we can share notes or something--I was trying to figure out a fancypants place to try out too.

    See I try to think that Zagat means something but I have eaten at almost every high-ranked Zagat place in Houston, Austin, and San Antonio and most of them sucked big time. Lots of the best places are in Zagat but not ranked so it's hard to tell. But yea I am interested to hear what they might say.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    MaoChan wrote: »
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    Not to spam the thread or anything, but what is the local opinion on Salumi? I'm told it's fabulous but nigh impossible to get into.

    Salumi looks like a NYC deli. Not to bash but just not fancypants. Is this the place?
    It's got some clout because it's run by iron chef Mario Batali's father, and places that cure their own meat are rare in Seattle.

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Of course I would happen to see this just before I have to leave work. I will make a point of posting something major tonight.

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    MaoChan wrote: »
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    Not to spam the thread or anything, but what is the local opinion on Salumi? I'm told it's fabulous but nigh impossible to get into.

    Salumi looks like a NYC deli. Not to bash but just not fancypants. Is this the place?
    It's got some clout because it's run by iron chef Mario Batali's father, and places that cure their own meat are rare in Seattle.

    That's the place. Any establishment that Mario Batali sites as inspiration is good enough for me. Is it feasible at all to get in there on a Friday afternoon?

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As a disclaimer, I'm not captain haute cuisine, I don't make reservations at Canlis, Palomino or Palisade or whatever (although Maggie Bluffs in Palisade's basement has the best burgers in the region).

    I can add my voice to those endorsing Kell's. That's the best Irish restaurant in the state I'm sure. Earth and Ocean is too full of yuppies, so I've never tried it. I don't know how far people are willing to travel, so I'll try to work outward. Within the first half mile or so there's Ayutthaya for Thai, 13 Coins which is Seattle's only 24 hour gourmet, and Nijo Sushi.

    As I go through stuff further out, I realize most of my recommendations would be for Japanese or Chinese places, would that interest anybody?

    Meh, I need to sleep. I hate getting up at 04:30 everyday.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'd be willing to hop the bus to the international district for authentic dim sum or a good izakaya, or take the monorail to Seattle Center for something good this time. I want to see more of Seattle than I did last year.

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  • CAP CbassCAP Cbass Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    A great Chinese restaurant recommendation would be welcome. If I can find at least one place with good food ill just eat there the whole time. I only eat one meal a day (and a snack or two) anyhow. I would say less than one mile away from the convention center would be ideal so I can walk off the full stomach.

    Thanks for all the suggestions so far everybody, looks like some very nice places. A few places look a little to opulent for my taste but I bet they have great food and environment anyway.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The opulent places are at the OPs request. I'll probably only have one big deal dinner on the trip, but I want to put a little more effort than just grabbing Subway for the rest of my meals.

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  • LigerLiger Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just saw someone recommended the Taproom. It's actually called the Taphouse, and you can find the website here.

    I fully endorse this place. I celebrated my birthday there with a crowd of Enforcers. :D

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  • BrennaCeDriaBrennaCeDria Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As I go through stuff further out, I realize most of my recommendations would be for Japanese or Chinese places, would that interest anybody?

    YES!!! I'm primarily looking for cheap sushi and awesome udon... it's killing me being away from the beautiful udon at the whole-in-the-wall I go to here in town ALL SUMMER while I try to save money for PAX and I'm going into withdrawal.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Liger wrote: »
    I just saw someone recommended the Taproom. It's actually called the Taphouse, and you can find the website here.

    I fully endorse this place. I celebrated my birthday there with a crowd of Enforcers. :D

    Wow, now you are speaking my language Liger. :lol: The menu looks great and the beer, surprisingly there are a few there at are new to me so I am now officially marking down the Taphouse as somewhere that needs to be visited.

    Also after hearing that Batali is down with Salumi, then I might need to try and get some lunch there.

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    So, I used to live in CT/ID (Chinatown/International District), and in my opinion the best Chinese restaurant is Shanghai Garden. Their hand-shaven noodles are amazing as are their signature Shanghai steamed dumplings. Honey Court is a solid alternative, and they're open all the way to 2 am on Fri-Sat, but I won't make any specific recommendations because for some reason everything I like there everybody else hates (come on, minced pork with steamed egg is good!). For dim sum, which for the uninitiated has the best selection only during the lunch hour, I would go to China Gate. A lot of online reviews of China Gate paint them as mediocre, but I've never been able to figure out what those people are smoking. In any case, House of Hong or Honey Court are good dim sum alternates. Just don't embarass me by asking for a menu.

    Where Japanese food is concerned, Bush Garden is always first in my mind. The service is hit or miss, but their sukiyaki is delicious, their sushi is fresh (if a bit traditional compared to all the crazy creations elsewhere in the city), and their sake selection is competent. Just try to avoid the kareoke...
    Fuji Sushi is a good, quiet backup, once again more traditional, but if you want crazy sushi + the best sake selection in the city, go to Umi Sake House. Umi can be loud and crowded with Belltown yuppies, and commensurately a little overpriced, but their rolls range from creative and inspired to downright madness.

    Hearing mention of the monorail, I must say the only thing worth time I've yet found on the other side is Racha. It may just be the best Thai food in the state. Just don't go there before a Seattle Opera performance, the proximity just packs the place.

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Maybe the best way to do this is to grab some of the Zagat listed places and ask what people think of them? I'd be interested in hearing what people really think of some of these "top" places:

    Best Buys: 1) Bakery Nouveau, 2) Armandino's Salumi, 3) Paseo, 4) Cafe Besalu, 5) Belle Pastry, 6) Thai Tom, 7) Glo's, 8) Other Coast Cafe, 9) Macrina Bakery and Cafe, 10) Pecos Pit BBQ

    Chinese: 1) Szechuan Chef, 2) Kau Kau Barbeque Market, 3) Jade Garden, 4) Shanghai Garden, 5) House of Hong

    Japanese: 1) Kisaku Sushi, 2) Nishino, 3) Shiro's Sushi, 4) Maneki, 5) Chiso Restaurant

    Italian: 1) Cafe Juanita, 2) Armandino's Salumi, 3) Il Terrazzo Carmine, 4) Tropea, 5) La Rustica

    "Meet for a Drink": 1) Campagne, 2) Metropolitan Grill, 3) El Gaucho, 4) Brasa, 5) Volterra

    Most Popular: 1) Wild Ginger, 2) Dahlia Lounge, 3) Canlis, 4) Restaurant Zoe, 5) Flying Fish

    Seafood: 1) Seastar Restaurant and Raw Bar, 2) Flying Fish, 3) Shuckers, 4) Waterfront Seafood Grill, 5) Ray's Boathouse

    There's a bunch of other categories in this but those were the ones I really wanted to see and I don't want to be overly spammy, if you want any specific lists posted though just let me know - I'd really like to hear what the local peoples' opinions as they're probably more accurate than the Zagat ratings.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hypatia wrote: »
    Maybe the best way to do this is to grab some of the Zagat listed places and ask what people think of them?

    Does your Zagat book list any Afghan restaurants? I had it for the first time in D.C. in January and oh my god was it amazing. Think Persian mixed with hints of Indian food.

    There was this dish called Kadu that made me want to have sex with the plate. It was pumpkin with a meat sauce and yogurt sauce. I was blown away by it and would like to get some more.

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    MaoChan wrote: »
    Hypatia wrote: »
    Maybe the best way to do this is to grab some of the Zagat listed places and ask what people think of them?

    Does your Zagat book list any Afghan restaurants? I had it for the first time in D.C. in January and oh my god was it amazing. Think Persian mixed with hints of Indian food.

    There was this dish called Kadu that made me want to have sex with the plate. It was pumpkin with a meat sauce and yogurt sauce. I was blown away by it and would like to get some more.

    I remember seeing an Afghan place in Wallingford called Kabul. Never been there or read anything about it, just drove past it.

    As for the Zagat listings, the only one I haven't talked about within my experience is Wild Ginger, which is great if you like very well-composed pan-asian cuisine surrounded by yuppies. I go there every now and then, and the quality is excellent, but the generic-ness bothers me somehow, and I can't help whining on the inside about how I didn't go somewhere more unique or authentic.

    As for seafood, I would usually go to Chinook's, a lesser known outpost of the Anthony's empire. However that may simply be from habit as my parents have been taking me there since early childhood.

    Edit: Another one of the Zagat listings I would actually denounce, Jade Garden in my recollection was boring, bland, and sloppy. Your milage may vary of course.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008

    As for the Zagat listings, the only one I haven't talked about within my experience is Wild Ginger, which is great if you like very well-composed pan-asian cuisine surrounded by yuppies. I go there every now and then, and the quality is excellent, but the generic-ness bothers me somehow, and I can't help whining on the inside about how I didn't go somewhere more unique or authentic.

    I checked out the menu and the items that are vegetarian sound so good that I might forgo my usual carnivore feasting just to eat there as the veggie dishes such as the Buddha Wonton Soup sound so good.. I do see what you mean though about the uniqueness not really being up there.

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    MaoChan wrote: »

    Does your Zagat book list any Afghan restaurants? I had it for the first time in D.C. in January and oh my god was it amazing. Think Persian mixed with hints of Indian food.

    I remember seeing an Afghan place in Wallingford called Kabul. Never been there or read anything about it, just drove past it.

    The only one that comes up under Afghan is the one ElectricTurtle mentions, Kabul Afghan Cuisine, it looks like it's rated highly in food and service but less highly in decor.

    On an unrelated/somewhat connected note, is Trophy Cupcakes worth making an effort of seeing/trying or is it mostly hype?

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    MaoChan wrote: »
    Liger wrote: »
    I just saw someone recommended the Taproom. It's actually called the Taphouse, and you can find the website here.

    I fully endorse this place. I celebrated my birthday there with a crowd of Enforcers. :D

    Wow, now you are speaking my language Liger. :lol: The menu looks great and the beer, surprisingly there are a few there at are new to me so I am now officially marking down the Taphouse as somewhere that needs to be visited.

    Also after hearing that Batali is down with Salumi, then I might need to try and get some lunch there.

    Ah, Taphouse, yes that was it. The beef springrolls during happy hour were full of win. The only knock that I had was the crowd, as it trended towards the yuppy puke-sack ilk during my visit.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    MaoChan wrote: »
    Liger wrote: »
    I just saw someone recommended the Taproom. It's actually called the Taphouse, and you can find the website here.

    I fully endorse this place. I celebrated my birthday there with a crowd of Enforcers. :D

    Wow, now you are speaking my language Liger. :lol: The menu looks great and the beer, surprisingly there are a few there at are new to me so I am now officially marking down the Taphouse as somewhere that needs to be visited.

    Also after hearing that Batali is down with Salumi, then I might need to try and get some lunch there.

    Ah, Taphouse, yes that was it. The beef springrolls during happy hour were full of win. The only knock that I had was the crowd, as it trended towards the yuppy puke-sack ilk during my visit.

    LOL sadly even though I try and avoid it, I probably am also one of those yuppies you talk about on account of the collared shirts and my VW Passat. But then again I usually have my DS Lite or PSP in my back pocket so I think that helps balance the equation.

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    Ah, Taphouse, yes that was it. The beef springrolls during happy hour were full of win. The only knock that I had was the crowd, as it trended towards the yuppy puke-sack ilk during my visit.

    I see you share my aversion to eating with yuppies. I think that's why I like dim sum so much, the environment seems to scare away the bulk of squares and boors. Not to mention one time on Valentines Day at Honey Court, my then-girlfriend and I watched some fish-out-of-water gweilo ask for a menu, a fork, and then proceeded to mash his order with the fork... into who knows what. It was hilarious, we laughed so hard his s/o figured out that we were openly mocking him/them, or so it seemed by her demeanor...

    Er... yes we're jerks. It was still funny though.
    MaoChan wrote: »
    LOL sadly even though I try and avoid it, I probably am also one of those yuppies you talk about on account of the collared shirts and my VW Passat. But then again I usually have my DS Lite or PSP in my back pocket so I think that helps balance the equation.

    I probably look like a yuppie now that I work for Tommy Bahama. From the last sample sale I picked up a couple dozen silk shirts and pants, but they're $5 each at the sample sale (MSRP $100+). So I look 10x more affluent/successful than I am. But on the weekends I lean back toward Thinkgeek tshirts and eccentric things like cheongsams.

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  • MaoChanMaoChan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008

    I probably look like a yuppie now that I work for Tommy Bahama. From the last sample sale I picked up a couple dozen silk shirts and pants, but they're $5 each at the sample sale (MSRP $100+). So I look 10x more affluent/successful than I am. But on the weekends I lean back toward Thinkgeek tshirts and eccentric things like cheongsams.

    I have started to forgo my nerd shirts even on weekends, a button down just looks so much better (and the Mrs. prefers them). But I make sure to include little things that are subtle hints to the careful eye of how dork I am such as my Evangelion NERV branded business card case and my Metal Gear Solid cellphone. Or you could look at my car and see the pile of hard Sci-Fi books in the backseat.

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  • MR.TMR.T Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Reading this thread makes me drool! :P I hope to try some of this great authentic food. I agree with electricturtle. When I travel and eat at a chain restaurant I'm always a little ashamed of myself. The local restaurants have so much character and better food. I hope to try as many of the local places as possible!

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hearing mention of the monorail, I must say the only thing worth time I've yet found on the other side is Racha.

    Crazy Taiwanese menu lady won't reveal her secrets!!!

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just looked up a review of Shanghai Garden, and I want me some fucking noodles nao.
    If the hand-shaved noodles won't convert Atkinsites, nothing will. These thick, uneven slivers of soft, fresh noodles are featured in noodle soups ($6.50-$7.50; don't miss the braised beef noodle soup, a heartier variation on pho, and the savory pork-and-pickled-cabbage noodle soup) and sautéed chow mein dishes with various vegetables, meats, and seafood ($6.50-$8.95). The gorgeous green version is reminiscent of Italian spinach pasta, but infused with Barleygreen, a powder extract of barleygrass juice. In our Barleygreen chow mein with chicken ($7.95), the pillowy noodles soaked up the dish's rich gravy and picked up all flavors: subtly seasoned chicken, light touches of soy, and fragrant onions.

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  • ElectricTurtleElectricTurtle Seeress WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hearing mention of the monorail, I must say the only thing worth time I've yet found on the other side is Racha.

    Crazy Taiwanese menu lady won't reveal her secrets!!!

    For some reason the site doesn't work in IE 7, but it works for me in Firefox 2.0.0.14.

    Also the Thai of Thailand are very different from the Taiwanese (Chinese) of Taiwan.

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