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360 backwards compatibility sucks
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Christ, I bought 4 oXbox games a few days ago that I really wanted to play, Otogi, Tenchu 3, Mercinaries and Thief 3. Okay, fair enough, Otogi and Tehchu 3 aren't supported yet, I can live with that, I would of been very surprised if they all were compatible and I'm happy to wait for them to get these games to work on my 360. Okay, so this leaves me with Mercinaries and Thief 3.
Thief 3 has horrible graphical issues, eg, fire from torches clipping through the entire game level, it's terrible making it close to unplayable because it's so distracting. I put that on my 'can't play' pile and pop in Mercinaries. Awesome, it works, looks great, runs smoothy, I'm having lots of fun blowing shit up as Han Solo then after a few hours of play time (not one long session, maybe an hour or 2 per session) the game suddenley freezes up. Huh, fair enough, these things happen so I reset the 360 and carry on playing for an hour or so, then it happens again. Long story short, it's gotten to a point where I'm lucky if I can get through a single mission or grab a blueprint before the game locks up and I start bashing the controller into my forehead. I'm just damn pissed because I'm having so much fun with the game and this starts happening. Apparentley it's a common issue with the game on the 360.
Well, frankly, I'm damn pissed off with this, I'v pretty much blown £22 I could of spent on a single game that worked, okay, I don't mind two of the games not working because they haven't been adjusted to work on the 360 yet, but god damn, the glitches in these 'playable' games are terrible.
I thought we could make a thread to warn other forumers of the backwards compatible games that don't work properley and why so others don't make the same mistake as me and buy oXbox games in faith of them working. I'll try and update this first post every once in a while with what people find. Issues with multiplayer not working or similar issues would be appreciated too. Games that simply don't run are not worth mentioning here since you can simply check if a game works or not, but not if it works welll
MERCINARIES - BECOMES NEAR UNPLAYABLE - After a few hours of play, constant and reoccuring freezing/locking up of the game
THIEF 3 - TERRIBLE GRAPHICAL GLITCHES - Flame effects pass through the game world and are very, very distracting, general graphical glicthes in terms of shadows and such. Very, very distracting, ruins the atmosphere completley
NINJA GAIDEN BLACK - FMV ISSUES - (Disk version, not sure about downloadbale version) Extremley minor, but the opening developer FMV has no sound and some FMVS stutter a little. Game runs perfectley though
KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC 2 - (apparentley) TERRIBLE PORT - Can someone confirm this for me? I heard this on the forum somewhere but heard the game was near unplayable.
If we can keep this list updated I think it would be helpful to a lot of people
Thief 3 has horrible graphical issues, eg, fire from torches clipping through the entire game level, it's terrible making it close to unplayable because it's so distracting. I put that on my 'can't play' pile and pop in Mercinaries. Awesome, it works, looks great, runs smoothy, I'm having lots of fun blowing shit up as Han Solo then after a few hours of play time (not one long session, maybe an hour or 2 per session) the game suddenley freezes up. Huh, fair enough, these things happen so I reset the 360 and carry on playing for an hour or so, then it happens again. Long story short, it's gotten to a point where I'm lucky if I can get through a single mission or grab a blueprint before the game locks up and I start bashing the controller into my forehead. I'm just damn pissed because I'm having so much fun with the game and this starts happening. Apparentley it's a common issue with the game on the 360.
Well, frankly, I'm damn pissed off with this, I'v pretty much blown £22 I could of spent on a single game that worked, okay, I don't mind two of the games not working because they haven't been adjusted to work on the 360 yet, but god damn, the glitches in these 'playable' games are terrible.
I thought we could make a thread to warn other forumers of the backwards compatible games that don't work properley and why so others don't make the same mistake as me and buy oXbox games in faith of them working. I'll try and update this first post every once in a while with what people find. Issues with multiplayer not working or similar issues would be appreciated too. Games that simply don't run are not worth mentioning here since you can simply check if a game works or not, but not if it works welll
MERCINARIES - BECOMES NEAR UNPLAYABLE - After a few hours of play, constant and reoccuring freezing/locking up of the game
THIEF 3 - TERRIBLE GRAPHICAL GLITCHES - Flame effects pass through the game world and are very, very distracting, general graphical glicthes in terms of shadows and such. Very, very distracting, ruins the atmosphere completley
NINJA GAIDEN BLACK - FMV ISSUES - (Disk version, not sure about downloadbale version) Extremley minor, but the opening developer FMV has no sound and some FMVS stutter a little. Game runs perfectley though
KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC 2 - (apparentley) TERRIBLE PORT - Can someone confirm this for me? I heard this on the forum somewhere but heard the game was near unplayable.
If we can keep this list updated I think it would be helpful to a lot of people
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
/hugs technology.
I love you, baby.
On-topic, to add to the OP however, Renzo said (and Renzo makes a habit of this 'accurate' thing):
Oh God yes! The only time it didn't show up is when you're playing co-op, believe it or not.
Odd. I don't remember seeing anything when I played through it.
I thought it had those even on the oXbox? :P
When I first got my 360, the first game I played through on it was actually Shenmue II, and during that time I barely played anything else because I didn't wanna bother with the brightness each time.
This is also the reason why some games are not on the list. Not because MS can't be arsed, but because software wise it is impossible to make them work without rewriting the code entirely for certain games.
I get that it isn't perfect. But relying on something which is presented 'as is' isn't the best idea. OXBOX's are dirt fucking cheap nowadays. I use one for my OXBOX needs because using thr 360 is unreliable and annoying.
Fuck KOTOR on the 360. Absolutely unplayable.
That is all.
I'd play these on my XBOX if the disk drive hadn't died on me.... twice *facepalm*
It was a sad, sad day when I couldn't play Metal Slug 3 on my XBOX and it isn't even supported on the 360 yet, but I really don't wanna have to pay for another copy from live arcade.
I got one cheaper than a PS3 or Xbox360 GAME!
(yes, i'll still buy one)
That's just because you're an Aussie. They're overpriced here in America.
In fact remember the Ark room in Indiana Jones? Your local GS has a stack of OXBOXEN that looks like that.
KOTOR and KOTOR II are the worst games for backwards compatability, besides Otogi and Otogi II of course...
I had to quit a few times it was so bad. The most noticeable were:
On the snow planet, the snow came down 4 times harder than normal, and it made it near impossible to see more than two feet in front of me.
When I go from outside to inside I notice a lot of "ghosting". I'll see the trees and stuff while I'm in the cave.
When I go from in a cave to outside it immediately gets dark.
Yup, and water's still wet.
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The reason it's not out is because they're updating it for the 360 and PS3. Butcher Bay with a lot more actual game added in (something like 40%) with updated graphics and, of course, a brand-new $60 price tag.
You thought they'd just let you play your old one when you can buy the new one?
EDIT: Beat'd.
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Supposedly they are done updating the BC, from what I heard.
This thread as inspired me to look up some games I've been passing up because of this. Apparently no The Warriors, but I could play 25 to Life. Ugh.
Edit: I will pick up Jade Empire sometime, though. Any known issues with that game they're not listing on the website?
Halo 2 multiplayer looks pretty damn good on the 360 but it produces an almost unnoticable lag on aiming during LANS.
My friends on their new 360 didn't know what hit them when me and my boy beat them down on our OXBOXEN.
Even better it was for money! :P
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I wouldn't say it ran like CRAP. It still ran fine.
What I am getting at is: Who is going to play barbies horse adventures on their 360? Probably...no one.
Who would buy MGS2 for the third time, to play it on their 360. I would. And I'm sure others would buy it if they haven't played it before or don't have a ps3 BC console. They'd get more money if they emulated games that sold well.
What? Substance ran just fine on the OXbox.
Like butter, in fact.
Emulating a poor port of a game that was from PS2, a system the original game had been hardcoded onto or some such technological blah blah (witchcraft) would likely be a bit too much. That game chugged just from the rain on the deck of the tanker on Xbox as is. Would be nice though. I don't care if Otogi ever shows up, both games have a broken escort mission and end boss, and I dislike that. NG Black had graphics issues too, that is to say, they look kinda bad, like something was lost in translation. Of course I downloaded NG Black, it may have just been that version that looks like it got ran through a sewer system.
I will say this though, the version of Chaos Theory I got off XBL was as smooth as silk, still a damned impressive looking game.
The only part of the game that showed any loss in quality was the very beginning, and only then when you are outside in the rain. It accounts for all of 10 minutes of gameplay.
Frankly, the rest of the game looks great-- better than on the PS2, methinks.
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The reason is simple: know how holding in the X button a little lets you aim with your sights but not fire? But pressing it down all the way fires?
The 360 does not have analog face buttons.
Well to answer your question nobody actually worked on the Barbie game's BC... a lot of what that team did was find solutions to hurdles they knew many games would suffer from and tackle those. Then you'd get interns and such to test the games and see if any worked and could be scratched off the list.
Wait. The Oxbox had analong face buttons, but the 360 doesn't? That's... weird. I feel retroactively cheated.
This is the most recent occurrence of you using the word "yet". It implies that someday they will work. If you are very very lucky someday they might, but the safe money would be on them never working in BC, especially if its not come to pass by now.
I'm not sure if BC updates are over and done with (the last time I heard that kind of complaining updates came out a week later) but the frequency has certainly dropped to "very low".
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Man... I should totally pick that up. Would it show up in my gamerscore? I've been stuck with just Bella Sara, but I was done with that game after the nerf to Clydesdales.... totally overpowered the Appaloosa.
/me really wishes Gladius had 360 compatibility :(
Nope, my US copy had an unavoidable graphical glitch in the trippy level (maybe level 5?) wherein the boss was impossible to see, and thus impossible to beat.
It seems to be games I really want to play again too, like Psyconauts, Munches Odyssey and Mercenaries.
Edit: Probably a PAL only issue.
I'll check that tonight. That would suck.
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