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The Football (Soccer) Thread: I hollerd lordy lordy have mercy on me!
Lord Of The Pants
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We now present the SECOND incarnation of the infamous "soccer" thread.
Now with 100% less Portuguese Bloke who plays for that Manchester team.
We now present the SECOND incarnation of the infamous "soccer" thread.
Now with 100% less Portuguese Bloke who plays for that Manchester team.
What is Football?
Football is a simple game where upon 22 men chase a ball around, and in the end the Germans win.
Wait, isn't that soccer?
Only in backwards countries like the United States and...Australia.
Man, I got so hot for Chelsea, they are my favorite team and Man United fans are piles of sticks!
You sir, can leave our cultured FOOTBALL thread where upon there shall only be the highest of discourse. I present you an example from the last thread of the way gentlemen speak about the game:
Arikado wrote:Man, Rigobert Song is a fcking moron. He did like 5 things wrong on the play that let Egypt win.
Okay, maybe not then. But just try and remember that everyone has different opinions, and just because your team won the League and the Champions League and has that Portugese Winger Fellow, doesn't meant that they are "the best evar" or that we should "suck it."
Mission Statement: In this thread we en devour to:
* Witness trash talk between EvilBob and Lord Of The Pants, as Adelaide sell all their good young players, and as Sydney buy shit old ones.
* Call for the death of Graham Arnold, as he couldn't manage his way out of a wet paper bag.
* NOT debate the strengths and weaknesses of various Arsenal defenders, way to go to wreck a thread.
* Quote Kevin Keeganisms whenever possible. (You can't do any better than a draw away from home.)
* Smile patronizingly as that Irish guy (Tav) tries to engage us in conversation about the Irish league.
* Generally spoil any and every major sporting event that happens in Football. Normally with a thread title change. That's how we roll. We expect you are up with it, so don't whine when the thread title is "Where is your Cultured Portuguese Winger Now?"
* Not listen when people claim the England squad has a left hand side.
* Mention Football Manager, and Football Manager Live at infrequent intervals.
* Talk about our fantasy leagues, in which people will organize soon.
* Not mention any of these following blacklisted players:
* Call for the death of Graham Arnold, as he couldn't manage his way out of a wet paper bag.
* NOT debate the strengths and weaknesses of various Arsenal defenders, way to go to wreck a thread.
* Quote Kevin Keeganisms whenever possible. (You can't do any better than a draw away from home.)
* Smile patronizingly as that Irish guy (Tav) tries to engage us in conversation about the Irish league.
* Generally spoil any and every major sporting event that happens in Football. Normally with a thread title change. That's how we roll. We expect you are up with it, so don't whine when the thread title is "Where is your Cultured Portuguese Winger Now?"
* Not listen when people claim the England squad has a left hand side.
* Mention Football Manager, and Football Manager Live at infrequent intervals.
* Talk about our fantasy leagues, in which people will organize soon.
* Not mention any of these following blacklisted players:
``Christiano Ronaldo
``David Beckham
``Zeljko Kalac
``John Terry
``Alloooisssiii Johhhhnnny Alloooisssiiii!
``David Beckham
``Zeljko Kalac
``John Terry
``Alloooisssiii Johhhhnnny Alloooisssiiii!
*Continue to post witty youtube clips, like
so:
Fantasy Details
Premier League Fantasy
Register at the Premier League's website. You will create your team right away.
Then, find the area where you can join a league. It will as you for a join code. The Penny-Arcade join code is 127455-31740.
We also started a mini-league for "I Know the Score," where we guess the scores of each match of each gameweek. The join code for our mini-league is FAA0D-LJQ.
And finally, chill out!
Remember: Football is one of those things where you can be right in an argument and still get beaten up.
Oh and you can talk about the MLS. We have no problems with that. Except we're are mostly Europeans and Convicts in this thread.
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Path of Exile: themightypuck
― Marcus Aurelius
Path of Exile: themightypuck
Go phoenix! Hopefully better then eighth! I know we can do better than those Perth guys!
I think I may need a better supporting thing to yell, more succinct possibly.
You didn't deserve to finish last. You played with more guys than the Perth boys did. :P
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round08_enc.wmv
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round09_enc.wmv
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round10_enc.wmv
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round15_enc.wmv
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round19_enc.wmv
http://wm.a-league.com.au/HAL/HAL_2007-08/highlights/07-08_Round21_enc.wmv
For a bit of context on the last one, that was the final round and Sydney, Central Coast, Queensland and Newcastle were all level on points going into it.
Anyone keen to start making some guesses on who will win some of the leagues this year?
I'm thinking that maybe Queensland will do quite well, although I obviously hope Phoenix win, a second season victory may be pushing it.
As for the premier league, I hope hope hope hope that the portuguese winger plays horribly below expectations and everyones like man, why didn't they take Real Madrids Robinho, Ramos etc deal. And then maybe Arsenal will win... I hope liverpool does, but I think we're going to be over reliant on our Gerrard/Torres combination, one injury and we're fucked.
For starters.
― Marcus Aurelius
Path of Exile: themightypuck
Did I miss anyone?
I'd tip Arsenal for the Premiership. I'd like a sexy futbol Chelsea to win though.
Everyone heard about Hleb's whining the other day? About how Wenger doesn't play him in the exact position he wants, and how Fabregas actually shoots sometimes rather than passing it around forever in front of goal and wah wah wah I want to go to Serie A where I won't get tackled!
In other news, what the hell Harry Kewell? Was Galatasary really the best offer you got? Enjoy being stoned to death next time you miss an open goal.
You're either new to football or you misspelled La Liga with Seria A.
Irish players ftw
Didn't he have AC Milan in mind at the end of last season? Forgive me if I don't keep up with every whim of that whiny, overated prick.
Yeah, what evilbob said.
Also, I thought that you may have made a genuine mistake as Hleb did name Barca as his preferred move.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3792213,00.html
Serie A seriously has hard tackling? Really? The league where everyone walks for the first 75 minutes of every game? I admit I don't watch much of it (because Five's coverage is shockingly bad. Hot Italian girl who can't speak english? Check! John Barnes on commentary? Check! Chappers from Radio One? Check! Just fucking awful), but I've never seen anything resembling the kind of intensity of tackling we see in the Premiership.
Italians are good defenders because they're disciplined, intelligent and athletic. They aren't the british hard-man types who will kick you to shit for having the nerve to go past them.
That discussion reminded me of the Taribo West tackle vs Kanchelskis from ages ago, but unfortunately I can't find a clip of it on the internet;o(((
Edit:
Also, I don't know where that comes from, but my guess is taht's something that only you British believe. Spaniards & British have a soft defenders reputation pretty much all around Europe.
Dude, also had that scary look when he was about to tackle somebody......those were the days....OF MADNESS.
Like I said, I don't watch Serie A often, but I've never seen anything to contradict the popular (british) opinion of it being a far more tentative, patient, cultured game than we have over here. More quality, less fucking about.
But the fucking about's the entertaining part.
What exactly do you mean by soft? If you mean shit, then I agree. British (and Spanish) defenders are well worth their reputations as a largely incompetent bunch. Doesn't mean they're not going to dive in and close down and hack Mikel Arteta's legs from under him once every 15.4 seconds.
Continental football is more of a chess match, particularly in Serie A. The intensity of the english game is what frightens off a lot of players.
(Yes, there are some Italian defenders with epic mean streaks to them. But they're usually cast as pantomime villains in the strange intertextual meta-narrative of Alessandro Del Piero's life)
I meant soft as in "Most likely to admire skill instead of making the guy sorry he even tried to pull that shit on them". I wouldn't go as far as saying they are incompetent(well, some Spanish ones are.....), as both countries & leagues have superb players on every position. However, if you want HARD tackles & defending, you go to Italy.
Last thing I could bring to the table: I really, really, really don't think that such a difference can be made up from referee strictness.
I have nothing more to add to the argument, but saying you should give the Seria A another chance. I have a shitload of English friends and every time I try to get them to watch a Calcio match with me the answer is "Zzzzzzzzzz....". There was a very low scoring, tactical period in the Calacio at the start of the 2000's, but now it has moved on,(scoring is about .10 per match less than the EPL on the season) and the pace is definitely there.
Really? There is world of difference between refereeing in the Premiership and Champions league, for example, with a whole host of things being different as far as allowed-not allowed goes (to the extent that it's all Mark Lawrenson can usually talk about in commentary).
Now I don't know where Serie A currently stands on that scale, but it's certainly possible.
There's far more protection for players by referees in some environments. just look at the Euros. Every single bloody corner had to be held up for the referee to tell the players to stop touching each other. In the Premiership that doesn't happen unless somebody's throwing down (or gone down, like that pussy John T- oh wait I'm not allowed to talk about him).
That probably should have been my original point re: fuck you Hleb. The precious snowflake wants protection from the Paul Scholes, Jon Obi Mikels and Joey Bartons of the world. Figures he'll get it in italy (or, if I'm keeping up with the news, Spain)
Actual physical levels may well be the same.
Hey, I'm not really going to argue with you (just bored and haven't got anything better to do than wax philosophical about footy nonsense), but I'm going to suggest you're wrong.
The hard-tackling no nonsense bastards in Serie A are like pantomime villains. They're just as strong and vicious as anyone, but because you're allowed to do a lot less on the continent, they're always on the wrong end of yellow and red cards.
Uh oh, it's Materazzi, what's he going to do this time! etc. etc.
Over here everyone tackles hard and gets stuck in (except the few precious flowers every team has), and far less is punished. The only players we have on the same level of infamy are the guys who genuinely can't tackle, like the aforementioned Scholes and Mikel, who will almost always get i trouble when they go to ground, and guys who have been/are in jail who are just violent bastards all round.
I can't agree with your view of Italian defenders as it's opinion based, not factual. We should have some match threads during the season and see if we can agree then.
...meh, you islanders are all the same....
Like most football fans, I feel the most important thing is to be putting forth an opinion. It doesn't have to be right, or make sense, or maintain any sort of consistency.
Like english refereeing.