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Sega Saturn appreciation thread

cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
edited August 2008 in Games and Technology
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Shamelessly capitalizing on the fond nostalgia for Sega's golden days inspired by Lewie's Dreamcast thread, here's a little something dedicated to Sega's 32-bit wonder.

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Thanks to a ill-received starting price point of $399, the Saturn was doomed to an eventual failure by the release of a much cheaper little console called the Playstation.

That's a sadder story for another thread, however.

Let's think of happier things, like what made the system so great.

(If you really want info on the many factors that lead to the system's untimely demise, feel free to peruse the ridiculously thorough wikipedia article.)

Much like its Dreamcast successor, the Saturn had a wide variety of awesome games, but it mostly shined with games in the RPG, platforming, fighting, and shmup genres.

Here's a few choice examples.


Shining The Holy Ark

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A traditional first-person dungeon crawler/RPG created by the Sonic Team. Classic goodness.

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Shining Wisdom

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Never a company to let the opportunity to show Sega some love pass them by, this was Working Designs' first release for the Saturn.

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Pretty much a by-the-numbers Zelda clone, but still worth a play, if nothing else.


Burning Rangers

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The very last Sonic Team Saturn game that made it to the states, and they went out with a bang.

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A third person platformer with firefighting-action gameplay, and some epic scenery.

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It had a laughably infamous [vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsfRCPclhdM]English opening[/vidurl], but it's still worth a listen every now and then.


NiGHTS Into Dreams

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A game that needs almost no introduction. The title that helped make analog control a console standard, and showcased one of Sonic Team's finest works.

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For most people, this is the game to get a Saturn for. Three-dimensional dreamlike flight platforming from the Sonic Team. Play as either Elliot or Claris, and rescue the world of dreams with the help of NiGHTS.

A beautiful game, so it should be played at least once. Same with the Christmas version. It's short, but sweet.


Guardian Heroes

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A classic beat'em'up from the mad geniuses at Treasure.

Lots of replay value, and multiplayer co-op mayhem.

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Street Fighter Alpha 2

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The second in a classic series, and one of my favorite fighters ever, this port was flawless at the time until the recent PS2 Anthology port came around.

The Saturn version is still unique for having an exclusive art gallery with assorted sketches and marketing designs.


Shining Force III

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Reputedly an excellent strategy RPG, even though only a third of it made it to the states.


This leads to one my favorite strategy RPGs on the system. A game so nice, it got localized twice.

Mystaria: The Realms of Lore / Blazing Heroes

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AKA
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Due to a certain clash with a famous adventure game's title, Mystaria was later rereleased with the safer, generic title of Blazing Heroes.

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A grid based strategy RPG with upwards of a dozen original characters, and an epic storyline.

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The graphics are dated, but the rest has aged pretty well.


Albert Odyssey: The Legend of Eldean

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Up there with the finest games Working Designs ever localized. Another traditional RPG, with great music and visuals backing it up.

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It also had some hilarious dialogue, care of a great localization effort.


Panzer Dragoon / II / Saga

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I've never been the biggest fan of this series, but since I loved the fourth game(Xbox's Orta), I have to respect the game's origins on the Saturn.

The four-disc epic Saga is also considered the priciest US Saturn game in existence, since it had a low print run, and is highly sought after.


Which leads to the definitive strategy RPG on the Saturn, and of any console around.

Dragon Force
(No relation to the band, I swear)

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The definitive Working Designs Saturn release.
One of the best Strategy RPG games ever, with hours upon weeks upon months of replay value.

Play as one of eight kingdoms to save the continent of Legendra from the Dark Lord Madruk, and unite the other seven kingdoms under your rule.

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I wasn't able to put this game aside until I'd done all eight campaigns, and they're all awesome.

On a side note, this got a PS2 remake not long ago as part of the Sega Ages collection.

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We'll almost certainly never see it released here.



And last, and absolutely not least... the final US Saturn game, almost ignored by every retailer around when it was finally released long after the console was all but dead.

Magic Knight Rayearth

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Of course, it was Working Designs who saw the Saturn through to the bitter end.

At least they also went out with a bang.

Based on a fairly classic anime, MKR is about three girls who get transported from Tokyo to the land of Cefiro to rescue it and the Princess Esmeraude from her former aide, Zagato.

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Another action RPG like Shining Wisdom, except it has three main leads: Hikaru, Umi, and Fuu, each with a unique elemental magic fighting style, and fully voice-acted diaries. It's a small touch, but a nice one.

If you're a fan of the series, it's also a pretty faithful retelling of the story.

It had three disc printings: Hikaru, Umi, and Fuu. I've yet to see any proof of the Hikaru and Umi discs' existence.


The Saturn had a lot of great games, and the above samples still only scratch the surface of them.

Aside from the variety of US released games, it also had some excellent import titles, but that's also another story.


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But it wouldn't be a Saturn thread if I didn't mention
Sakura Taisen at least once.

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A hybrid of a mecha strategy RPG and a dating sim that was never released in America because then-Sega of America President Bernie 'RPGs won't be successful in America!' Stolar was a complete idiot.


Also, you've probably heard of this game at some point or another: the Panzer Dragoon Saga of Saturn imports.

Radiant Silvergun

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The most expensive Saturn game of them all, the spiritual predecessor to Treasure's Ikaruga.

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I've never played it on account of how stupidly expensive it is, but I imagine it's awesome.


In parting, I can only offer the wisdom of a legendary icon, who saw the Saturn through from the beginning to the end.

The one, the only.
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Segata Sanshiro.

The legendary Japanese Saturn mascot.

If you were not playing the Saturn, Segata Sanshiro would beat you senseless until you saw the light.

[vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nST2cgeXOwQ]He was a lover.[/vidurl]

[vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SanWyvMQunI]He was a fighter.[/vidurl]

[vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2QRIWdNtxY&feature=related]He even had the holiday spirit.[/vidurl]

[vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXz_1mTZCUI]And he was there until the very end.[/vidurl]

So if nothing else, in honor of Segata, show your Saturn some love.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    what about D? It's one of few Saturn games I really care about playing someday.

    apparently you eat your parents at the end of the game or something

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  • elevatureelevature Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've wanted a Saturn forever but could never find one. I guess I could try eBay but I'm leery of buying old consoles on there. But all of those sweet RPGs are making it hard to resist.

    Retronauts did an awesome Saturn podcast last year, anyone interested in the history of the system should check it out.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Captain K wrote:
    what about D? It's one of few Saturn games I really care about playing someday.

    apparently you eat your parents at the end of the game or something

    I always forget one.

    Yes, D is also great. And the plot twist at the end is nuts.

    It's not quite like that, but close.

    Don't read this if you ever plan on playing it:
    Your father, who killed everyone in the hospital, reveals that you're Dracula's descendant.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fuck the last dungeon in Albert Odyssey. Jesus Christ that place is bullshit. It's the worst teleporter dungeon I've ever seen and I never got through it before my friend's Saturn screwed up and deleted my save file.

    I did manage to beat Rayearth before that though. It was pretty fun I have to say.

    Also you forgot Symphony of the Night. Come on man.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    SotN safely falls under 'imports'. (Still a good one)

    I never actually finished either MKR or Albert Odyssey, both because of the final bosses.

    I sure didn't expect MKR to turn into a shmup at the very end.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would've mentioned SotN for the whole controversy it had (has) about which is better, the saturn or PS1 version. It should've been the 3rd import mentioned though!

    And you actually made it through that dungeon in Albert Odyssey? I wasn't sure it even had an end. I wandered around there for hours and all that happened was I think I discovered that the things that look like boulders were actually treasure chests or switches or something.

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  • LionLion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How the fuck can you make a Saturn thread and not mention Guardian Heroes?

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  • Yellow RangerYellow Ranger Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I love my Saturn. Love it. It's always hooked up. I just bought Streetfighter vs X-Men with the 4mb ram pack and it's amazing.


    The Saturn also has the best version of Earthworm Jim 2, and that makes it worth owning right there. CD quality music! Lots of animation! Both win and awesome on one disc!

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Okay, I apparently always miss several. :| I have no excuse for neglecting to mention Guardian Heroes, shy of never actually owning it, just beating it over and over on a rental.

    I'll try to add some content on the obvious absences.
    Gilder wrote:
    And you actually made it through that dungeon in Albert Odyssey? I wasn't sure it even had an end. I wandered around there for hours and all that happened was I think I discovered that the things that look like boulders were actually treasure chests or switches or something.

    I'm pretty sure I did, but I had no luck with the final boss.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dude you left out the reason I wanted a Saturn:
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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    virtual hydlide

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Apparently Segata had to do commercials for some pretty awful looking games.

    A soccer RPG? Really?


    (He also did one for [vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TLkdLqmxuk]Dragon Force 2[/vidurl], which I like to pretend doesn't exist.)

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Saturn was a fantastic system if you liked importing RPGs. Grandia was my first import game ever (I should get around to trying the US PSX version sometime) and Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers was fantastic. You can still find a ton of cheap import RPGs for the system on eBay these days (most are under $10 & even Panzer Dragoon Azel can be found for $20 or so). The system was really easy to get import ready too since all you had to do was a buy a cheap cartridge and pop it in the memory card slot.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I never owned a Saturn, but I'm a big fan of Segata Sanshiro. That guy's still doing stuff for Sega, right? I seem to recall him doing promo stuff for the arcade Rambo game.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Guardian Heroes, Exhumed and Panzer Dragoon Zwei/Saga were too freaking awesome. My saturn is still my most prized console next to my Dreamcast.

    Guardian Heroes HD on Live Treasure. More people need to see this gem.

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  • LionLion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    Guardian Heroes HD on Live Treasure. More people need to see this gem.

    I would appreciate enlightenment on what this is.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lion wrote: »
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    Guardian Heroes HD on Live Treasure. More people need to see this gem.

    I would appreciate enlightenment on what this is.

    Guardian Heroes is a 2d beat em up with multiple classes, 4 player multiplayer and multiple paths in the game set in an anime-esque world. There are RPG and levelling elements and its quite simply a joy to play. Multiplayer deathmatch has a HUGE list of characters to play as.

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  • atat23atat23 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Guardian Heroes is one of my all time favorite games, must have played through every path in single and co-op, the multiplayer is hilarious, bunny vs giant robot!
    The Gameboy advance version should never have been made, I'm still in the process of tracking down and killing everyone that was involved in the creation of that abomination.

    The panzer dragoon games are amazing, also played them to death

    I remember Athlete kings was so much fun to play due to the button mashing goodness

    Also Alien trilogy was a great looking game but hard as fuck, maybe I wasn't use to fps at the time but I could never get past the third level or something, would love to play that one again to see if I still suck as hard.

    Most of my Sega Saturn games had a replayability factor that I just don't have with alot of games now.

    Unfortunately I was young and foolish and sold my Saturn to some stupid gaming shop years ago.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2008
    Dragon Fooooooooooorce!

    I remember someone from the G&T Chat thread had hacked DF2 and replaced all the character names with regs. It was very silly and hilarious all around.

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  • xWonderboyxxWonderboyx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I found a bunch of rad saturn games at the goodwill a few weeks ago so I bought them. I then bought a guaranteed to work saturn from ebay with some games and accessories for like 70 dollars and then the fucker didn't work and I sent it back and never bothered with a replacement. So sad.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I will never forget that Segata Sanshiro gave his life to protect Sega.


    NEVER FORGET!

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You left out one of the best games for the Saturn(and its genre in general)

    ASTAL

    Also, Shining Wisdom and NiGHTS are both incredible.

    Damnit, I want to get my saturn running again. But then I'll want to get my sega CD and dreamcast running again, and then...

    Damn these appreciate threads. I need to find dragon force too, that game looks awesome.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    <3 Guardian Heroes

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  • HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Can i get some love for X-Men: Children of the Atom, VF2, Fighting Vipers, Sega Rally and Marvel Super Heros?

    Ohh and Sonic Jam that was great.

    and Christmas NiGHTS

    And now i have to go change my pants.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I loved my Saturn. Sonic Jam is better than Sonic Mega Collection.

    Fighters Megamix is epic too, and in need of a remake/sequel.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Saturn was a fantastic system if you liked importing RPGs. Grandia was my first import game ever (I should get around to trying the US PSX version sometime) and Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers was fantastic. You can still find a ton of cheap import RPGs for the system on eBay these days (most are under $10 & even Panzer Dragoon Azel can be found for $20 or so). The system was really easy to get import ready too since all you had to do was a buy a cheap cartridge and pop it in the memory card slot.

    The original Grandia on the PSX is the best of the series hands down. It looked basically the same as the saturn but with nicer cutscenes i think. But whatever, the game trumped all of its sequels by far.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    HerrCron wrote: »
    Can i get some love for X-Men: Children of the Atom, VF2, Fighting Vipers, Sega Rally and Marvel Super Heros?

    Ohh and Sonic Jam that was great.

    and Christmas NiGHTS

    And now i have to go change my pants.

    Fighting Vipers! I'd forgotten about that one.

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  • Typhus733Typhus733 Yip! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Never got to get a Saturn as much as I wanted one (I am a sega whore, I love sega so damn much). But the OP did remind me of how fucking much I miss Working Designs :(

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  • atat23atat23 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    HerrCron wrote: »
    Can i get some love for X-Men: Children of the Atom, VF2, Fighting Vipers, Sega Rally and Marvel Super Heros?

    Ohh and Sonic Jam that was great.

    wow, completely forgot about Sega rally, I was amazing at that game on the Saturn but sucked really hard when playing it with the steering wheel in the arcade.

    Sonic jam was good because of all the original games you got to play but I always thought the 3d world section was unneeded since it was tiny and the 3d levels where pretty samey and boring, Sonic R on the other hand was top class.

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Japanese version of Castlevania: SotN on the Saturn was the best version of the game; sad the PSX couldn't muster some of the extra stuff the Saturn version had.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    RSG FTW.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I really need to buy some new A/V cables for my Saturn.

    I imported the whole Langrisser series, because I loved Warsong (on the Genesis) so much.

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    One of these days I'll actually play through them all.

    Hardcore Gaming 101's article on the series

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I did not own a Saturn. My buddy did. I'm set to inherit his, which is cool, though I really only want it for one game: Iron Storm.

    I used to watch him play that and it looked awesome. Games like that are rare on consoles, and it looked as if they did a good job. Can't wait to sit down with that.

    I enjoyed playing Sega Rally and Panzer Dragoon, and have always been intruiged by the word of mouth on Panzer Dragoon Saga, but alas, the Saturn was the one Sega system this huge Sega fan never owned. When I inherit his Saturn, I'll finally have them all. And that shall be cool.

    But I will not spend insane prices for Panzer Dragoon Saga. No, I won't.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Shoegaze99 wrote: »
    I did not own a Saturn. My buddy did. I'm set to inherit his, which is cool, though I really only want it for one game: Iron Storm.

    Hell yes.

    This thread feels like a once-a-year vigil to remember an old friend who died. I never would have sold my Saturn. My mom felt differently while I was at school one day. In my opinion, she totally raped the dog on that one.

    Sega was Harvey Dent, and Sony was the Joker. I'll let you decide if the analogy is apt, but just remember one thing:

    Sonic games didn't suck until Sony started competing with Sega.

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  • FaffelFaffel Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I got one for free when I was a kid, after it died, and broke it long before I realized the wonderful potential of this system. So I need to hunt down a new one and a mod chip and play that bitch up!

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  • Bob SappBob Sapp Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Saturn is crap. Just played through my whole collection and sold it all off. Dragon Force and Guardian Heroes are great, but that's pretty much it. My collection included every US RPG, Burning Rangers, Nights, Christmas Nights, etc. 2 great games does not a good system make.

    Fortunately, Saturn prices appreciated pretty decently since I bought all this stuff soon after the Saturn's death.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I like how "I don't like these games that you people do" means that the system is crap and has only two good games.

    Good going.

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  • Bob SappBob Sapp Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I never mentioned anyone other than myself.

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    edited August 2008
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