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PAX: Never Gonna Give You Up
eveningangel
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I don't hold much stock in G4 since they ate TechTV, but I was interested in Sessler's Soapbox especially the comment they had above the video:
They already won't advertise for games/companies they think are shit.
They are open to small companies trying to compete (PinkGodzilla's original store looks almost the same size as their entire booth at PAX, but they held their own and had a booth next to Fantasy Flight and Behemoth. The small table top game companies are another example. Yeah they had small booths around the edges, but they had good products and got spots.)
I don't see them caving in as long as Mike and Jerry are in control.
I'm kind of sick of everyone saying once something gets popular it sells out.
I think PA can hold the corporate wolves at bay with the shining ax of knowing who their people are.
I personally think they can hold out for as long as they damn well want.Should more events follow the PAX model? How long can PAX hold out from Corporate interests?
They already won't advertise for games/companies they think are shit.
They are open to small companies trying to compete (PinkGodzilla's original store looks almost the same size as their entire booth at PAX, but they held their own and had a booth next to Fantasy Flight and Behemoth. The small table top game companies are another example. Yeah they had small booths around the edges, but they had good products and got spots.)
I don't see them caving in as long as Mike and Jerry are in control.
I'm kind of sick of everyone saying once something gets popular it sells out.
I think PA can hold the corporate wolves at bay with the shining ax of knowing who their people are.
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{Fondly remembers the PAXTrain}
It won't let us down, it won't run around and desert us?
I want to hate you to death.
They may never overtake PAX in being great, but they could steal some thunder.
I'm not to worried about copy cats actually.
I mean, wouldn't it be great if everything was as awesome as PAX?
Nothing will be as awesome as PAX, because it was built that way from the ground up. But it would be nice if the games and electronics industries would make the logical connection that the PAX is around where their cons weren't and wouldn't it be better to imitate the success of PAX than to try to make PAX the ultimate failure that those shows were?
Yeah, but then the standards would be higher and then nothing would be awesome. ;(
Anyway, I've got mixed feelings about it. E3 would probably shrink PAX a tiny bit, but then I guess whoever stops going to PAX would just be the losers that come for the sole reason of playing unreleased games and getting 1337 r3c0nz. And then maybe people will stop complaining about the lack of booth babes. It'll probably just filter out the bad people, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Which makes PAX better.
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Seriously, E3 was never a thing that I felt was any good unless you were there to do business. Some of the panels were useful, but the panels at GDC are better for the money.
As far as a good time is concerned, PAX >>>>>>> E3. GDC is a better conference for getting business done, and PAX is a better convention for having a good time with your friends. E3 was just a media circus in one of my least favorite cities I've ever been in, and I don't miss it at all.
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That's a huge thing. I hate LA and the area around the convention center is terrible (I mean you have to walk like half a dang mile to get to a Denny's for lunch, and we always stayed down near LAX to get semi-reasonable deals on hotels, which meant terrible commutes in horrible hell traffic.)
Aside from the community aspect and the gaming aspect, how much nicer the area is around the convention center in seattle really stands out to me. Multiple nice hotels in walking distance, a lot of good restaurants and bars in walking distance.
I've never been to Boston, but I'm hoping it's the same way.
-E3's primary focus is as a business trade show. PAX's primary focus is as a social convention. Unless one or the other changes their focus there won't be any issue with one impacting the other. If PAX's crowd is what everyone here swears by, then there's even less reason for them to intersect. To further illustrate this point, selling items on the show floor at E3 was prohibited and at PAX it's openly encouraged. Different crowds to cater.
-The area immediately surrounding the LA convention center is pretty terrible, which is why I stayed with friends/colleagues at E3 hotels in westwood (doubletree/hotel on wilshire). It had free shuttles for travel to and from the CC, a reduced rate for all attendees, and the area had great food and spots to chill. If you chose to stay in the hotels immediately surrounding the CC you only have yourself to blame.
For reference:
E3's attended - 2005, 2006, 2007 (santa monica), omitted 2008 due to budget.
PAX's attended - 2006 (bellevue), 2007, 2008.
Every one of those shows i've enjoyed immensely. Both shows had tons of great people, both shows I had great times outside of the event, both shows the games on hand were great to try and the money spent was well worth it. E3 still holds my fancy since there was always more depth to be found if you were there for industry or business and PAX lacks that same depth simply because it's not the show's focus.
To each their own.
I don't know if it was prohibited or what, but there were always people trying to sell shit. You could usually find a booth with a lonely old asian man who would give you a cookie, too.
According to their sales directors, selling direct product out of your booth on the show floor was prohibited. The gift shop and concessions obviously sold a lot of stuff (often at crazy huge prices).
The best was getting a cup of "authentic" lemonade from a dude in kentia for $3.50. Guy pours a glass of ice water, tosses in half of a full lemon, "$3.50 please". Pure quality with that one. Other notables were the bacon wrapped hotdogs outside which were delicious russian roulette with your health and the grilled cheese/bean/whatever sandwiches which caused an uprising in 2006 for not being on sale the first day. Apparently the bacon dogs were missing this year (2008) much to some attendee's displeasure.
Good times.
However, those bacon wrapped hot dog things. I would not eat them, but one of our guys would buy at least one every day. Including the mayo that had been sitting out in the sun all day long.
Dude clogged up the toilet once (I wonder why) and I had to go ask the front desk for a new room.