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[Fringe] Double the Walter, double the fun[spoilers]
tallgeeze
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*SPOILER POLICY*
Season three has come out, so that means everything before now can be discussed spoiler free. For the rest of the season please spoiler tag plot details of upcoming episodes. Basically, if you have been in the LOST thread then you know how to do this.
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I'm interested in this show. Where can I view past episodes?
To catch up on past episodes I suggest you go to Hulu or Fox sites. I doubt you will get many season 1 or 2 episodes, but these sites should be a good source for season 3 episodes as they air.
Season 1 & 2 is out on DVD/ Blu Ray now!
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If for some fantasical reason you still don't what I'm talking about go here : http://www.fox.com/fringe/
Wikipage for all of you info whores http://www.fringepedia.net
Plot: When superscience goes awry a crack team of investigators puts out of flames of evil. Seriously, shit is on fire. Check it out
Main cast
Olivia Dunham
She is the main character of the show. She is a tough FBI agent who gets assigned to the Fringe division due her unique ability to connect unique facts together. People were split on her at first, but I think most have come to like her.
Update: Olivia is cool now because she did this.(it's very tasteless, but I like it.)
Peter Bishop
It's that guy from that show teenagers used to watch. Something about a creek and emo kids I think. He is a genius that has a friend for every possible situation.
Season 2: Peter finds out that he is not from our world and in true "Fuck you, Dad!" fashion he runs off to the other side with his real father. Walternate has blimps and shit, so I can understand. However, Peter finds out that Walternate is just using him for some super weapon to destroy our world. Peter realizes Walter Classic wasn't so bad, so he comes back to our side.
Walter Bishop
This is your new God. You love him and he will somehow remember to love you. Your tributes to him should include apple fritters.
Walter Bishop AKA Walternate
This is your new Devil. He knows what your ass is up to and will put you in some dark hole until he figures out what to do with you. Surprisingly, apple fritters also appease him.
Cool people on the show
The Observer
Name says it all. Whenever freaky shit happens LOOK FOR THIS GUY!!!! He will be nearby observing.
There are a number of observers who need to watch history unfold in a certain manner. However, one observer fucked up and almost indirectly killed Walternate's kid. To make up for this he helped our Walter and Peter survive in 1985 after they fell through the ice.
Phillip Broyles
It's that creepy guy from Lost and some underrated cop drama. He is Olivia's boss. He always knows more than what he lets on.
Astrid Farnsworth
She works with Olivia as a FBI tech, but she has become Walter's assistant for the most part. Season 1 was spent on mostly getting her name right.
In Season 2 she has become more friendly with Walter and seems to be bonding with him.
William Bell
He is the egnimatic CEO of Massive Dynamic. The biggest mysteries of the show always lead back to this fellow and early in season 1 we learn that Walter was lab partners with the man. What things has he learned and what is his influence on all things superscience? Few know, but it will be a hell of a ride finding out.
We did find out what this guy look like on the final episode of season 1.
That's not all, folks. Somehow this dude has found a terrorist free New York because his office is in this familar building.
Watch season 1 to see how he got to that place
We did find out what this guy look like on the final episode of season 1.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Only real complaint was the floating 3d 'titles' that tell us where they characters are. It's not a dealbreaker for me or anything, but it looks pretty stupid
yeah different networks different universe (well I assume different universe). I doubt there'll be any plot specific mingling between the two.
Was that mysterious black guy that works for the super secret agency the same actor that played the mysterious black guy that works for the super secret agency on lost
yea, the 3-d titles was cool at first, but then I just found it annoying.
And yes, it is the same black guy.
@feral. They are two different stories, but if you have watched all of JJ Abrams' series then you can see some of the similarities.
Ohhhh, okay. For some reason I thought they were intertwined.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I don't think any of the acting is very good at all, except perhaps for the crazy doc. I guess he's supposed to be a John C. Lilly knock off; the ketamine and isolation tanks were there, but they forgot the part about talking to dolphins.
But, since I don't have cable, I'll probably end up watching the next episode.
I figured that John Scott would die in the first episode, and that would be fuel for Olivia's inner turmoil for the season. When they were in the storage facility, I said, "This is where he dies a terrible death." And when they were speaking via dreaming or whathaveyou, I said, "This is where she tells him she loves him, and then he dies." Well, I was happily wrong on both accounts. I didn't see him being a bad guy, although once she started listening to the tape, I realized it someone was double-crossing here.
I wasn't really digging the main actress, but I could in the future. She really sold me on her sobbing scene in the ambulance in the end. I liked the 3D letters announcing where they were, but it was a bit much when the camera angle changed to shooting up at the heliopters in Iraq, and we saw the underside of the "B."
All in all, I enjoyed it. I really liked the X-Files, so hopefully this can hold up to be as good as that one was in it's better days. I'll stick around for next week (or as long as Jackson does, anyway).
I actually really enjoyed the episode and I hope that they don't manage to screw the show up somehow.
Haha.
Yeah, just wait, it'll get canceled. They always do.
Only if it's worth watching
Don't fuck with Cedric Daniels
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Now if Dollhouse blows as well, this is going to be one seriously empty season.;o(
In general the show just had a hard time getting me to suspend my disbelief. The opening scene had me riveted, but then as the show kept going I just kept saying "What? No." and "Oh come on." which isn't good. And every time I would start to get back in they would have something ridiculous like dream-space or a cartoon robotic arm.
Lastly, and this is something I had to keep asking my wife, why is Pacey in this show?
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o_O
Anyways, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It has promise, and I'm excited to see where they'll take it. However, it is on FOX, which means it'll probably get canned, and then they'll churn out another American Idol rip-off. Maybe this time it'll be Dancing with Penguins.
I guess I missed that. Still, it rubbed me the wrong way.
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Re: the 3d text, it didn't bother me all that much, but essentially we have David Fincher to thank for it. It was used in Panic Room for the opening credits, although it was a much simpler implementation (flat fonts with static shots). The next prominent example that I can remember was in MOH Airborne, and even though it was real-time rendering, that was the first time I'd seen it done with 3d text and a moving camera. It seems like some cg artists were basically like "we composite animated characters and objects into scenes all the time, why not see what we can do with text?", and we've just seen a natural progression from that.
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Things that annoyed me that I can still remember:
High school dropout with genius IQ who can talk his way into designing a major pipeline but isn't smart enough to deal with a vague threat. He goes around insulting his father who, after years of treatment, is mentally feeble and incapable of even reacting to said comments. The attitude and quips kept making me think that Katie Holmes was going to pop in, sleep with him, and then slap him and go back to what's his name again.
This father, who went a mental institute for the criminally insane and who was such a risk that only family members were allowed to visit, was not only allowed to leave the institution but was back to his old lab within hours.
The fbi agent is going to all this trouble to save her friend, that she takes him from a clean room, and puts him in a dusty basement that hasn't seen fresh air in 40 years. He is eventually healed only to turn out to be
Son: AHH YOU'RE SO INSANE I HATE YOU! I TALK FAST!
Dad: Blahblahblah science sort of.
Son: YOU'RE TOO DANGEROUS EVEN THOUGH YOU DO PRETTY MUCH JUST WHAT YOU'RE TOLD!
Dad: Blahblahblah something something?
Son: AREN'T YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING FBI GIRL? HE'S DOING SCIENCE SORT OF!
Dad: But I don't want to do this science. But I'll do it anyway. Blahblahblah names of chemicals.
Son: TOOTHPASTE! I'M A GENIUS BUT I DON'T DO ANYTHING!
Massive Dynamic (which is a really cool name by the way) reminds me of Black Mesa Research and Aperture Science, too, so how can I hate this.
I haven't watched any of Lost, by the way, so maybe that's why I'm so optimistic? People seem very anxious to trash the show immediately after only watching one episode. I'm willing to suspend negative judgement for a little while to see where the show goes.
Apparently if you put electrodes on you go inside someone else's brain?
I also liked the bit where they find out what the guy used to make the goo-skin stuff.
Sodium Peroxide. Chemical Names! Technobable!
I don't think most here are hating it, but expected a little better from a JJ Abrams project. He is brilliant at grabbing you with that opening scene, but when things don't get much better than that folks get antsy. Some problems are obvious, but like all new shows the kinks will get worked out as the series goes on.
I love the subject matter and will be tuning in every week to be sure. I'm sure by next month we will be hooked.
The series has for its part very high production values.
But the pilot has what It called "A wizard did it" mantra... The whole merging brain thing is so wack... Next up its they gonna use Orgone tech?
Keep it to the semi - ani-corp stuff and it will do fine.
They've made it pretty obvious a large part of what the show is about is Fringe-Sciene. Suspension of disbelief will most definitely be required
Yeah the best analogy I thought of when I saw it initially was the World of Darkness Mage Technocracy.
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Yeah, that opening scene was quite a jaw-dropper.
There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
like a live action ghost in the shell kind of thing
but the fringe science stuff doesn't really work for me
I thought it was pretty good but considering they spent 10 million to make the Pilot I'm wondering if there is going to be a drop off.
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