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James Bond 007: Quantum of Solace
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So, I noticed that we didn't have a thread for this movie, and a quick search didn't reveal any older threads either, so I figured it was about time to make one.
The Movie
So, this Bond movie sees Daniel Craig's bond continue his rebooted journey, picking up literally right where Casino Royale picked off where Bond shot and caught Mr. White.
That guy turns out to be an agent of some sort of the crime syndicate Quantum - think SPECTRE from the old days - and Bond embarks on a journey to avenge Vesper's death.
Official Synopsis (No Spoilers, but Spoilered for Size)
The theme for this movie is called "Another Way to Die" and is written by Jack White from The White Stripes, and sung by Alicia Keys. As yet unreleased.
There's a game too being made by Treyarch of Spiderman fame, but I'll leave that as it's bound to get it's own thread in G&T. It looks like a pretty standard third person action affair, really, and is bound to be good-not-great, like most movie tie-ins.
Trailer
Trailer can be found in the following formats:
MP4, 480p - http://flash.sonypictures.com/video/movies/quantumofsolace/site/QuantumOfSolace-trailer2.mp4
Quicktime 480p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281106&sdm=web&pt=rd
Quicktime 720p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281107&sdm=web&pt=rd
Quicktime 1080p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281108&sdm=web&pt=rd
and finally
YouTube
When?
The movie opens October 31st in the UK, throughout the first week of November in Europe and November 14th in the US/Canada.
I'm a huge bond fan but I admit I'm not a massive fan of the 'new' rebooted Bond. Casino Royale was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable, but outside of the Casino scenes the movie didn't feel very bond - and with this one going to focus more on the action side of things, the chance of scenes as intense as the Casino ones are a bit low.
Either way, I'm pretty excited, because regardless of how 'Bond' this movie is, it looks thrilling. So, yeah.. Discuss Bond in general and this new movie.
The Movie
So, this Bond movie sees Daniel Craig's bond continue his rebooted journey, picking up literally right where Casino Royale picked off where Bond shot and caught Mr. White.
That guy turns out to be an agent of some sort of the crime syndicate Quantum - think SPECTRE from the old days - and Bond embarks on a journey to avenge Vesper's death.
Official Synopsis (No Spoilers, but Spoilered for Size)
QUANTUM OF SOLACE continues the high octane adventures of James Bond (DANIEL CRAIG) in CASINO ROYALE. Betrayed by Vesper, the woman he loved, 007 fights the urge to make his latest mission personal. Pursuing his determination to uncover the truth, Bond and M (JUDI DENCH) interrogate Mr White (JESPER CHRISTENSEN) who reveals the organisation which blackmailed Vesper is far more complex and dangerous than anyone had imagined.
Forensic intelligence links an MI6 traitor to a bank account in Haiti where a case of mistaken identity introduces Bond to the beautiful but feisty Camille (OLGA KURYLENKO), a woman who has her own vendetta. Camille leads Bond straight to Dominic Greene (MATHIEU AMALRIC), a ruthless business man and major force within the mysterious organisation.
On a mission that leads him to Austria, Italy and South America, Bond discovers that Greene, conspiring to take total control of one of the world’s most important natural resources, is forging a deal with the exiled General Medrano (JOAQUIN COSIO). Using his associates in the organisation, and manipulating his powerful contacts within the CIA and the British government, Greene promises to overthrow the existing regime in a Latin American country, giving the General control of the country in exchange for a seemingly barren piece of land.
In a minefield of treachery, murder and deceit, Bond allies with old friends in a battle to uncover the truth. As he gets closer to finding the man responsible for the betrayal of Vesper, 007 must keep one step ahead of the CIA, the terrorists and even M, to unravel Greene’s sinister plan and stop his organisation.
Forensic intelligence links an MI6 traitor to a bank account in Haiti where a case of mistaken identity introduces Bond to the beautiful but feisty Camille (OLGA KURYLENKO), a woman who has her own vendetta. Camille leads Bond straight to Dominic Greene (MATHIEU AMALRIC), a ruthless business man and major force within the mysterious organisation.
On a mission that leads him to Austria, Italy and South America, Bond discovers that Greene, conspiring to take total control of one of the world’s most important natural resources, is forging a deal with the exiled General Medrano (JOAQUIN COSIO). Using his associates in the organisation, and manipulating his powerful contacts within the CIA and the British government, Greene promises to overthrow the existing regime in a Latin American country, giving the General control of the country in exchange for a seemingly barren piece of land.
In a minefield of treachery, murder and deceit, Bond allies with old friends in a battle to uncover the truth. As he gets closer to finding the man responsible for the betrayal of Vesper, 007 must keep one step ahead of the CIA, the terrorists and even M, to unravel Greene’s sinister plan and stop his organisation.
The theme for this movie is called "Another Way to Die" and is written by Jack White from The White Stripes, and sung by Alicia Keys. As yet unreleased.
There's a game too being made by Treyarch of Spiderman fame, but I'll leave that as it's bound to get it's own thread in G&T. It looks like a pretty standard third person action affair, really, and is bound to be good-not-great, like most movie tie-ins.
Trailer
Trailer can be found in the following formats:
MP4, 480p - http://flash.sonypictures.com/video/movies/quantumofsolace/site/QuantumOfSolace-trailer2.mp4
Quicktime 480p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281106&sdm=web&pt=rd
Quicktime 720p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281107&sdm=web&pt=rd
Quicktime 1080p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=71281108&sdm=web&pt=rd
and finally
YouTube
When?
The movie opens October 31st in the UK, throughout the first week of November in Europe and November 14th in the US/Canada.
I'm a huge bond fan but I admit I'm not a massive fan of the 'new' rebooted Bond. Casino Royale was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable, but outside of the Casino scenes the movie didn't feel very bond - and with this one going to focus more on the action side of things, the chance of scenes as intense as the Casino ones are a bit low.
Either way, I'm pretty excited, because regardless of how 'Bond' this movie is, it looks thrilling. So, yeah.. Discuss Bond in general and this new movie.
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edit: I mean, don't get me wrong, I actually really liked that movie, because James Bond has become a real human being, not some sex-crazed misogynist. Still, Hold'em? C'mon guys :P
Could you imagine trying to explain Baccarat to most of the American audience?
All other card games have been superceded and rendered obsolete by Texas Hold'em. It is indeed the only card game left. In fact, most casinos don't even call it Hold'em anymore, they just call it Cards.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
La banque gagne!
Dang kids, got no respect for anything these days!
I don't know - it's hard to explain - there's something very distinctively Bond about the books and the majority of the movies that a few of them have been missing. A lot of people think it's the campiness, but I'm not so sure. Part of it I think is because I'd read all the books - my view of what Bond is isn't defined as much by the movies, and the books have a much clearer vision as they aren't made by a million different people.
I do miss some of the more obvious Bond icons in this reboot, though - a Quartermaster with gadgets, Moneypenny and such.
The producers felt like these things were ruining the series, but they were only ruining the series when Bond was being provided with some of the ridiculous stuff he was getting provided with in the later movies that were basically a get of out jail free card for the writers. It's not so bad when they're implementing some cool real-world gadgets - the poison gas keyfinder, the mini jet boat from The World is Not Enough - that kind of stuff.
Yes. THIS. She is the first one in recent years who has simply blown my mind with her beauty.
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As opposed to Goldfinger? Moonraker? The Living Daylights? Octopussy?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The first three are alright, and the last one just sounds awesome. This new one just sounds like they wanted it for the simple fact of 'hey, obscure english words'.
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It is a bit of a rubbish name. In a desperate, DESPERATE attempt to keep even the most tiny link to Fleming, this movie is named after an Ian Fleming short story which has nothing to do with Bond. They've loosely constructed some story elements around the name - like the naming of the crime syndicate of Quantum.
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EDIT: No, wait, according to Wikipedia there's still "A Property of a Lady."
Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
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No, no. It's actually used correctly. This marks the first time "Quantum" has been used correctly in the history of Cinema.
"Quantum of Solace" is "a little bit of solace", only cooler sounding. I like the title.
Also, the bond girl is fine, but she doesn't really make my heart leap out of my chest or anything.
These characters will be missing from the upcoming movie? As I understood it, Casino Royale presents heim before he truly becomes double-oh-seven. I would expect at least a quartermaaster.
I really liked that the gadgets(as described from the book, I remember) in Dr. No were not actually used by Bond. I would have been if they had kept a similar theme with just one or two of the many gadgets shown by Q actually being needed.
Yeah. We need more stuff like the Briefcase in From Russia with Love and less laser shooting watches, basically.
No Q or any real gadgets in this movie. He is supposed to have one 'gadget' of some sort, but only in the modern day gadget sense, probably licensed. In the DVD sleeve for Casino Royale they list one of Bond's Gadgets as his Sony mobile phone... No Moneypenny either. As I said this movie is a direct continuation, there's literally seconds between the end of Casino Royale and the start of this, so Bond doesn't have the chance to really get into his stride of being an agent and get out of the newbie stage. Because he's still chasing down the people responsible for the events of Casino Royale, in a way it's still his first mission until M tries to abort it and Bond goes against her License to Kill style..
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you know it used to be a great game before people with nothing to lose took over ready to risk everything...
currently id rather play 7 card or pot limit 5.
Ah, you're right. "A quantity". Still, it doesn't mean A Laser of Solace in this case, so I take it as a win.
I miss Brosnan.
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It's not just that he doesn't look like a Bond, it's that he looks like the goddamn villain. I think he killed more people in Casino Royale than the actual 'nemesis' did, anyway.
allow me to introduce you to....Blade.....Laser..........Blazer......
For interest, Ian Flemming's commisioned sketch of James Bond:
I'm unsure about that, but Fleming definitely had Niven as his first choice to PLAY bond in Dr. No. Which I suppose is close enough anyway.
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For the sake of the Bond looks debate:
I'd still say Pierce is the closest, though Lazenby also comes close.
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I really don't like Lazenby, though to be fair I haven't seen much of him.
Roger Moore is also the man. I think he was excellent.
Out of all of them, I think Brosnan has the 'spy' look down the most, with Moore as a close (very close) 2nd.
Aside from the hair color thing, Craig just looks too 'hard' for the part.
Not that I'm dismissing the old style though. They both have their place in the world.
Although, I will say this. A few weeks ago, they were showing all the Brosnan Bond films on TV. And although I still liked them, after Casino Royale, they seemed to be a lot more corny now.
I will say that the newer movies (Royale and this Quantum one) seem to be pretty well suited to Craig's 'brawler' look, in that they're considerably darker and grittier and involve a lot less spying and a lot more 'I am going to beat the shit out of you vicariously for Britain'.
I don't think I liked that, though. I always liked the slightly campy bond-fantasy-super-spy thing. They seemed a bit more lighthearted and you could smile every now and then while watching the damn movie.
A Bond film that's not only a good 'Bond Film' (I would argue, the best), but a great film on its own merits? Intelligent, arch, action-packed without being gratuitous (looking at you, Mr. Bay)?
Fuck yes please. Brilliant. Exactly what the series needed. And it definitely felt like Bond.
As for the Bonds. Pierce should have been the best Bond ever, with Connery coming a close second and Dalton taking third. But Pierce's acting talent and persona were utterly squandered after Goldeneye - the director of which, entirely un-coincidentally, went on to do Casino Royale.
Craig very much suits the new Bond - almost perfectly - and one can make a compelling argument for his being the most authentic. He is also a very capable actor. Whether he can *be* Bond for more than one film is as yet unknown, but he absolutely nailed in it on his first outing.