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Weed allergy?

ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi there, just a super quick question.

I have a pretty finely tunned bullshit detector, but today a girl I've been talking to says her room mate is allergic to weed. So much so in fact, that even breathing in the smoke could cause her throat to close up and be rushed to the emergency room.

I call bullshit. Especially if the smoker is in a room with a locked door and a rug in front of it.

Is this even possible?

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  • robotbeboprobotbebop Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    There are people who have adverse allergic reactions when something as essential to life as water just touches their skin, even when they sweat, so of course it's possible.

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  • GigatonGigaton Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    How would it not be possible?

    Allergies basically come from slightly varied genetics, such as the inability to break down/metabolize certain substances. I mean, really, someone can be allergic to virtually anything.

    I'm really not seeing how this is so far-fetched.

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dude, it could be possible. I suffer from asthma and I have bad reactions to Cigars, but not cigarettes. It causes me to get a tight chest and struggle for air. A throat closing up from smoke is no bullshit.

    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

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  • SeldomSeldom Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah seriously, asthmatics can have adverse reactions to any smoke, regardless if it's weed.
    if she has any asthmatic history, or an actual allergy to weed, or just doesn't take well to smoke in general, then she could easily have a bad reaction to it.

    my mother is hyper-allergic to a lot of things and can pick up on them a mile away, having a rug up against a door will do jack-shit to protect her from something she's allergic to. some people can really pick up on certain things that you wouldn't even give a second thought to and they will get seriously affected by them. trust them when they tell you it bothers them.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have pretty rough reactions to weed smoke, cig smoke, and even incense. I can't testify to the severity of her reaction, but you can most definitely be allergic to stuff like that.

    And closing the door and putting a rug down is fine for the moment, but the smoke's gotta go somewhere when you open the door, and you can't count on it all going out the window or whatever.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I get migraines from cigarette smoke and pot gives me the only hangovers I ever get. So yeah.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Anyways, it's completely possible - as others have said. People are allergic to the weirdest, most specific things.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm mildly allergic to tobacco, have roughly the same reaction to second hand smoke that many people have to pollen, and get itchy around somebody who smokes, even if they haven't smoked for several hours. I have a more mild reaction to marijuana smoke, or just smoke in general, and none being around a marijuana smoker.

    It doesn't take a high concentration to trigger allergies, especially bad ones. People with severe peanut allergies can develop a reaction from peanut free food if the knife that cut them wasn't thoroughly washed after being used with peanut butter.

    On the other hand, I know somebody else who also claimed to be allergic to tobacco, but it was eventually diagnosed as asthma. Net effect is about the same, though, people with respiratory problems will be sensitive to any kind of smoke.

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    saltiness wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Dunno about the no job and friends bit, but i do think its stupid. Yes there are the harmless people who do smoke it with their friends as a harmless way to have fun. But then there are others, who are completely oblivious to the fact that it has long term effects and can completely destroy them mentally, and go around causing shit in society. Ive met many.

    And in relation to this thread, inconsiderate assholes who couldnt give a shit about themselves and the health effects it has on their friends.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    You can be allergic to anything. One of my brothers is allergic to metal, my mom is also allergic to brass.

    I'm allergic to certain untreated woods.

    (I am however, immune to poison ivy)

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    You can be allergic to anything. One of my brothers is allergic to metal, my mom is also allergic to brass.

    I'm allergic to certain untreated woods.

    (I am however, immune to poison ivy)

    have you considered a career in being Batman?

    if someone can be allergic to peanuts, then an allergy to marijuana isn't much of a step from there

    a plant is a plant is a plant

    a couple of people in my family are allergic to drugs like codiene; being allergic to plants (i.e. pot) sounds more believeable than that :P

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  • SeldomSeldom Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    saltiness wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Dunno about the no job and friends bit, but i do think its stupid. Yes there are the harmless people who do smoke it with their friends as a harmless way to have fun. (...)

    way to, ya know, stereotype and generalize, then backflip..

    keep on track to the question (which i think is solved...?).

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    having harmless fun and being "a dumb piece of shit" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive :P

    that said yeah I think the topic is pretty much dealt with

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Seldom wrote: »
    saltiness wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Dunno about the no job and friends bit, but i do think its stupid. Yes there are the harmless people who do smoke it with their friends as a harmless way to have fun. (...)

    way to, ya know, stereotype and generalize, then backflip..

    keep on track to the question (which i think is solved...?).

    Hey, whos back flipping? I still think those harmless people are dumb pieces of shit.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Wow, I'm sure this thread doesn't need to go here </mod>

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    There is no way, not a quantam of a chance, that winter is over the age of 16

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?
    But the OP is clearly seeking an excuse to refuse not to smoke around the person mentioned, presumably because boo hoo its too fucking hard to wait until that one person is elsewhere, and that's catnip to someone who's had to put up with real stoner types fucking with them. WCK's reaction is out of place, but understandable.

    We done now?

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The questions been answered. Yes it's entirely possible to be allergic to marijuana or the compounds created when it burns.

    If you want to talk about the relative merits of smoking pot, take it to D&D or SE++.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'd be more concerned as to why you would think you are being lied to. Do you think the room mate is lying, or this girl?
    If it's the girl, what does she have to gain by lying if she is already smoking with you? Maybe she doesn't want her room to smell.
    If the room mate is lying, maybe she doesn't want her apartment to smell, or maybe she doesn't want to risk getting caught with smokers in her place.

    It might be a nice way of saying "your hobby reeks", or it could be the truth.

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?

    I dunno, i think winter's opinion on the use of marijuana reveals his lack of life experience, and his lack of experience with varying people and personalities. I know people who are responsible, intelligent adults who smoke marijuana every once in awhile to relax from a hard days work. Just because you see a bunch of retarded 14 year olds running around the street touting the benefits of Triple Head band vs. White Rhino while munchin on hot cheetos and talking about their latest blog entries doesn't mean all people who smoke are idiots.

    Any ways, I agree full heartedly with what Improvolone said. Why would your friend's flatmate NEED to call BS in the first place?

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  • X3x3nonX3x3non Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?
    But the OP is clearly seeking an excuse to refuse not to smoke around the person mentioned, presumably because boo hoo its too fucking hard to wait until that one person is elsewhere, and that's catnip to someone who's had to put up with real stoner types fucking with them. WCK's reaction is out of place, but understandable.

    We done now?

    The OP never said that it was him smoking weed in his appartment.
    but today a girl I've been talking to says her room mate is allergic to weed

    and even so, he was just asking about allergies, not your opinion on smoking weed in an apartment.

    And yes, it is entirely possible that even just trace amounts of weed smoke can cause an alaergy. I mean, my friend can't handle even tiny amounts of cat hair without completely freaking out.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    My friend is allergic to weed and more mildly to tobacco. Her eyes water and her breathing passages slowly close up when she is exposed to the smoke. If she persisted in sitting in a room with pot smokers, she would eventually have to go to the hospital because she would be unable to breathe through her constricted throat. She is usually okay if the smoking happens outside because she can move around and try to stay upwind.

    So yes, some people are allergic to weed. My friend is actually allergic to most plants in general. I myself am allergic to avocado for some inexplicable reason. Allergies are weird and can develop at almost any time.

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  • lunasealunasea Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    Hi there, just a super quick question.

    I have a pretty finely tunned bullshit detector, but today a girl I've been talking to says her room mate is allergic to weed. So much so in fact, that even breathing in the smoke could cause her throat to close up and be rushed to the emergency room.

    I call bullshit. Especially if the smoker is in a room with a locked door and a rug in front of it.

    Is this even possible?

    Ya, I've met someone that was allergic to weed. It sucked because she tried it once and her lungs got inflamed. Don't fuck with people's allergies.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008

    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Go fuck yourself.


    That said, yes it is completely possible to be allergic to weed. I would question whether the girl is lying about it or not; but at the same time do you really want to find out?

    Whats so bad about smoking outdoors anyways, i never smoke inside places i live.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh, and I'm sure this was asked because you're just curious, but never call bullshit on allergies. My fiance is so allergic to raspberries, that if I eat them, or anything with them, and then my sweat touches her skin, she'll react to it.
    Not as bad as if she ate them (she would die quickly), but that's intense.

    Edit: Holy fuck. My fiance was talking to a friend at work, at her boyfriend is allergic to cold weather.
    It's not that he's sensitive, or has blood flow, the doctor actually calls it an allergy. If his skin is exposed to temperatures 50 degrees or below, he breaks out into hives, and then the hives fall off. He's in his mid 20's and only just found this last year. How is this possible you ask? Because he lives in Florida.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?
    But the OP is clearly seeking an excuse to refuse not to smoke around the person mentioned, presumably because boo hoo its too fucking hard to wait until that one person is elsewhere, and that's catnip to someone who's had to put up with real stoner types fucking with them. WCK's reaction is out of place, but understandable.

    We done now?

    I don't know if we are. He's denigrated a HUGE chunk of society in a way that offers no help or advice. I'm surprised at you actually, I'd think you'd be the one chewing his ass for a blanket statement that everyone engaging in the behavior was a piece of shit. I think your inference about what's really going on is correct, but that still doesn't make everyone who smokes weed a piece of shit - that's an after-school special opinion and WCK will have to be extremely lucky to live even a small portion of his life in an after school special world.

    WCK - you have NO IDEA how many people around you actually smoke weed. It's like being gay, you can't tell by looking with most people, unless they decide to 'advertise.' You can only pick out the people who really SEEM like they smoke weed, and believe it or not, some of them don't smoke, and many of them would be pieces of shit without weed.

    OP: There are people who are allergic to weed (there's somebody out there allergic to EVERYTHING). Very, VERY few of them are that allergic. The Cat is likely correct, your pal doesn't want people lighting up around her. In either case, you should go outside or something. Smoke only in your home or designated hash bars.

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Didn't realise so many people would be pissed off at my comment posted earlier. I apologize to those who where bothered or offended by it. It was stupid and innapropriate, evenf or this thread. Sorry folks.

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Didn't realise so many people would be pissed off at my comment posted earlier. I apologize to those who where bothered or offended by it. It was stupid and innapropriate, evenf or this thread. Sorry folks.

    We all make mistakes. We learn and grow. No harm no foul.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.
    You know, there are some people that can engage in taboo acts that are actually responsible adults. Weird, eh?
    But the OP is clearly seeking an excuse to refuse not to smoke around the person mentioned, presumably because boo hoo its too fucking hard to wait until that one person is elsewhere, and that's catnip to someone who's had to put up with real stoner types fucking with them. WCK's reaction is out of place, but understandable.

    We done now?

    I don't know if we are. He's denigrated a HUGE chunk of society in a way that offers no help or advice. I'm surprised at you actually, I'd think you'd be the one chewing his ass for a blanket statement that everyone engaging in the behavior was a piece of shit. I think your inference about what's really going on is correct, but that still doesn't make everyone who smokes weed a piece of shit - that's an after-school special opinion and WCK will have to be extremely lucky to live even a small portion of his life in an after school special world.

    WCK - you have NO IDEA how many people around you actually smoke weed. It's like being gay, you can't tell by looking with most people, unless they decide to 'advertise.' You can only pick out the people who really SEEM like they smoke weed, and believe it or not, some of them don't smoke, and many of them would be pieces of shit without weed.

    OP: There are people who are allergic to weed (there's somebody out there allergic to EVERYTHING). Very, VERY few of them are that allergic. The Cat is likely correct, your pal doesn't want people lighting up around her. In either case, you should go outside or something. Smoke only in your home or designated hash bars.

    read my post again, thanks. I didn't say what he said was ok, I said I get where it comes from. There's a difference.

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  • GiantRoboGiantRobo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, a girl that I work with is allergic to it, and another person I used to go to high school with is too.

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  • ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Actually I wasn't looking for a reason to be able to smoke at all, the entire thing just seemed far-fetched logistics wise, in a room, down a hall, and into a livingroom can cause an entire throat to close up?

    I guess it's just baffling.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    Actually I wasn't looking for a reason to be able to smoke at all, the entire thing just seemed far-fetched logistics wise, in a room, down a hall, and into a livingroom can cause an entire throat to close up?

    I guess it's just baffling.

    Absolutely is possible.

    Whether in your specific case it is the truth or not is up for debate. You should ask more detailed questions.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    Actually I wasn't looking for a reason to be able to smoke at all, the entire thing just seemed far-fetched logistics wise, in a room, down a hall, and into a livingroom can cause an entire throat to close up?

    I guess it's just baffling.

    Absolutely is possible.

    Whether in your specific case it is the truth or not is up for debate. You should ask more detailed questions.

    I dont think thats necessary. Either the girl really is allergic to the smoke (very possible, as this thread indicates) or she's just saying that because she's uncomfortable/doesnt like having weed smoked in the house, but doesnt like confrontation. Which is a valid stance imo, plenty of people dont like cigarettes being smoked inside their house, and that's a legal substance. I dont see why harassing her with further questions is necessary, just stop smoking around the poor girl.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Really, your best bet is to just back off from it. I spent almost five years working in a Residential Life Office and in the halls directly and came across the "I'm allergic to pot!" statement a couple of times.

    There are usually two things that can be the "cause" of the allergy. 1) The person is actually adversely affected by the substance. 2) The person is very uncomfortable with the smoking of illegal substances and wants to stop it in a way that doesn't make them sound like a "narc."

    I've come across the second type a few times, and had one student who was actually responded poorly to smoke. Generally, in either case the solution is the same to any other issue you have in a housing/personal dispute: find a way to not piss each other off.

    If it is a problem, make it not a problem. Close the door and toss down a thick towel, put the box fan pointing out the window. If you aren't being a dick about it then there's no issue. Trying to accommodate others while maintaining your own solidarity is really the lynch-pin for ensuring that you can go through life without spending every free minute in conflict.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    There are usually two things that can be the "cause" of the allergy. 1) The person is actually adversely affected by the substance. 2) The person is very uncomfortable with the smoking of illegal substances and wants to stop it in a way that doesn't make them sound like a "narc."

    I'd say MOST people will try to avoid confrontation at all costs by pointing to something beyond their control and say "look it's not my fault". Yes, it is possible to be allergic to smoke of any and all kinds. But the amount of smoke that would get through the door, especially if a towel was under it and a fan blew the smoke away from the door? I'm voting you're dealing with Crowing One's second situation.

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  • GdiguyGdiguy San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If it's just a curiosity question - yeah, sure, it's possible. It's also possible she's lying and just wants an excuse to be able to tell people to stop smoking weed around her, but an allergy that severe is certainly theoretically possible.
    Scrublet wrote: »
    There are usually two things that can be the "cause" of the allergy. 1) The person is actually adversely affected by the substance. 2) The person is very uncomfortable with the smoking of illegal substances and wants to stop it in a way that doesn't make them sound like a "narc."

    I'd say MOST people will try to avoid confrontation at all costs by pointing to something beyond their control and say "look it's not my fault". Yes, it is possible to be allergic to smoke of any and all kinds. But the amount of smoke that would get through the door, especially if a towel was under it and a fan blew the smoke away from the door? I'm voting you're dealing with Crowing One's second situation.

    Well, you'd think the same thing about peanuts, and then you get that one kid in a million that dies because he was sitting 3 tables over from someone with a peanut butter sandwich

    However, even if it is the 2nd - unlike something like burning incense, or making smelly food, etc, with weed if you keep pushing the issue to prove that it is the 2nd you will wind up putting them into a position where their only choice is to report you to someone that could actually get you in serious trouble. Your RA may be nice about trying to work out a compromise, but if it gets reported further up they're not going to have much choice but to involve authorities, and 'but I had a towel in front of my door and she could BARELY smell it' isn't a legal defense for possession

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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't know if you (the OP) smoke or not, but as a non-smoker with a keen sense of smell, if anyone is smoking within a floor of me in the same house, I can smell it. Carpet or whatever makes no difference.

    (And it's annoying, but that's beside the point.)

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  • plantersplanters Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    saltiness wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Dunno about the no job and friends bit, but i do think its stupid. Yes there are the harmless people who do smoke it with their friends as a harmless way to have fun. But then there are others, who are completely oblivious to the fact that it has long term effects and can completely destroy them mentally, and go around causing shit in society. Ive met many.

    And in relation to this thread, inconsiderate assholes who couldnt give a shit about themselves and the health effects it has on their friends.


    It amazes me how ignorant some people are, I'm just curious what those "health effects" are, and how it could "destroy" someone mentally and what are your sources? or did you just see an above the influence commercial and think reefer is a mind altering drug that turns teens into cold blooded killers?

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    planters wrote: »
    saltiness wrote: »
    Also, anyone who smokes weed is a dumb piece of shit.

    Yeah, totally. Because everyone who smokes weed is a fucking unproductive loser with no job and no friends right? Fuck people who like to have fun using natural plants to help intensify their happiness. Fucking assholes can all go to hell.

    Dunno about the no job and friends bit, but i do think its stupid. Yes there are the harmless people who do smoke it with their friends as a harmless way to have fun. But then there are others, who are completely oblivious to the fact that it has long term effects and can completely destroy them mentally, and go around causing shit in society. Ive met many.

    And in relation to this thread, inconsiderate assholes who couldnt give a shit about themselves and the health effects it has on their friends.


    It amazes me how ignorant some people are, I'm just curious what those "health effects" are, and how it could "destroy" someone mentally and what are your sources? or did you just see an above the influence commercial and think reefer is a mind altering drug that turns teens into cold blooded killers?

    It was generalizing and stupid and i understand it wasn't a fair comment at all. I've already apologized in an above post.

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