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Heroes Volume 4: Fugitives - It ended with a whimper
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Season 3 has ended, for better or for worse. Some of us enjoyed it, others are haters. Tonight's episode, number 14 was the final episode in Volume 3 "Villains." The show will be taking a month and a half hiatus during the holidays, and will resume in February the first Monday after the Superbowl.
Volume 4 is subtitled "Fugitives."
What we know so far...
(Spoilered for people who are not caught up with the show)
In the same manner that Volume 1 and 2 were ended, we were given a brief teaser-trailer for Volume 4. This is what we know from the video. (I will link the trailer at a later time).
Season 4 began February 2, 2009
Trailer for Volume 4 - Fugitives
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUSUbBjuMk
Update:
Another Update:
Only 2 Episodes remain in Volume 4.
Volume 4 is subtitled "Fugitives."
What we know so far...
(Spoilered for people who are not caught up with the show)
-- Claire stabbed Sylar in the back of the head with a glass shard. Chances are, he's not dead.
-- Sylar took the bullet from Peter's gun and used it to kill Arthur Petrelli. Chances are, he's not dead.
-- Ando injected himself with a syringe containing the formula. His adapted power is the ability to "amp up" other people's powers.
-- Hiro destroyed the formula
-- Meredith went supernova due to an adrenaline injection. She lost control of her ability and blew up Primatech. Chances are she's not dead.
-- Peter injected himself with the formula. He gained the ability to fly.
-- Sylar took the bullet from Peter's gun and used it to kill Arthur Petrelli. Chances are, he's not dead.
-- Ando injected himself with a syringe containing the formula. His adapted power is the ability to "amp up" other people's powers.
-- Hiro destroyed the formula
-- Meredith went supernova due to an adrenaline injection. She lost control of her ability and blew up Primatech. Chances are she's not dead.
-- Peter injected himself with the formula. He gained the ability to fly.
In the same manner that Volume 1 and 2 were ended, we were given a brief teaser-trailer for Volume 4. This is what we know from the video. (I will link the trailer at a later time).
Nathan Petrelli delivers a file with a crap load of information on the people with powers, plus a bunch of stuff about the formula and Mohinder's research. He gives the info to the President and advises him that he thinks all powered people should be rounded up and sent to a containment facility.
We are given glimpses of government agents hunting down the powers and black bagging them. There appears to be a new antagonist who is the chief in charge of the hunt.
We are given glimpses of government agents hunting down the powers and black bagging them. There appears to be a new antagonist who is the chief in charge of the hunt.
Season 4 began February 2, 2009
Trailer for Volume 4 - Fugitives
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUSUbBjuMk
Update:
After a few weeks of Petrelli Family Feud, Nathan was just exposed to the world as having powers himself and being a hypocritical dickwad.
Another Update:
Only 2 Episodes remain in Volume 4.
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That said, I'm still looking forward to Season 3, I have faith they can pull their socks up.
You can accept some plot-stupidity for the sake of extending an arc but when the entire cast acts as if they inherited the super power of low IQ along with their other gifts it gets boring, annoying and beyond repair and the preview clip described so far doesn't sound like its going to improve on that. The scene with Claire and Sylar in particular is pretty much on par with S2.
It shouldn't be this hard to write a good show about people with powers. And the thing that bugs me most is that I'm sure this was originally billed as ordinary people, you and me, with powers, and its not. Normal people, regular people would revel in some of these powers. Not murderously over the top like Sylar and probably in fear of persecution, but they wouldn't bitch and moan about it like EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVERYBODY in the show apart from the one character who is insanely over-powered and unable to use his power when the plot calls for it.
And running people who can outrun time stopping? Even if hes just slowing time to an incredible crawl, if she was actually running that fast surely her body would implode.
If you'd been keeping up you'd know thats the proposed title for Volume 4.
EDIT: It still amazes me that the entire Nikki Sanders family wasn't written out before Season 2, they're so completely and utterly not necessary. And they wrote out the ONE good character they've added, ever, the Taskmaster rip-off.
Can't wait for S3.
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Probably my favorite character from season 1 was Claude (the invisible guy). I want to know what happened to him and why he just completely disappeared out of the show.
Are you sure you aren't watching a different show?
One that doesn't suck?
Claude was actually present in every major scene in season 2.
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I see what you did there.
Seriously though, Season 2 suffered from super decompressed storytelling, but once it was obvious the strike was on, they accelerated things and it got better. It really is past time, though, that we saw some hot hero on villain action. No more wasting time on Sylar and Latino Twins' Excellent Adventure and the Sweet Valley Super Teens.
See, this is why I loved the first season for like...4 episodes and have lost interest in it steadily ever since. Sylar, though apparently pointlessly sociopathic (since it's implied he could learn the powers without killing) is sometimes incredibly creative with his powers, and other times an idiot. Powers like the melting of normal matter, or the ice generation along with telekinesis should make him nearly untouchable as-is.
But Peter is so much worse: his only obstacle in using others' powers simultaneously is concentration, and yet he never just says "you know, I'm going to spend time working on this". Sure, he hooks up with Claude, but he wastes that almost entirely. You have a man who knows - KNOWS - that he can travel through time, is telepathic, telekinetic, can heal from death, fly, talk to machines, turn invisible, generate plasma/electricity, phase, etc. He's probably also got Sylar's stolen powers (e.g. the freezing). Yet, Peter is just a wuss.
I resent storytelling where someone is given this incredible gift and is too stupid to put any effort into their use. No human on the planet, given those powers, wouldn't become obsessed with using them.
Maybe his superhuman lack of curiosity and ambition are why fate trusted him with such power in the first place.
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But that's just my point: even the most apathetic human, given powers so extraordinarily beyond the pale, would be more interested than Peter is. Think about why people lack ambition: it's because of a sense of impotence, of the inability to change or control things. When gifted with such a supreme ability to not only influence/control things, but to do it in a way that no one else can, they would be the most likely to obsess.
I mean, I know you're kidding since Heroes doesn't have a Fate, doling out powers for a purpose, but it's still a point.
So we want to love it, but its just too stupid to love.
This is about how i feel, yes: someone created a forum for something I liked - and wanted to like - that was destroyed by bad writing. I fail to see why the only people who should comment in a thread are people who love it.
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And I know most of you are, this is a pre-emptive strike on my part.
Indian Spider-Man was cooler the first time.
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I think you're being unduly harsh on Peter. In season 1, he was just trying to cope with the concept that he had powers. Remember, when the show began, Peter thought he could fly. He was completely wrong about what his power even was. It wasn't until late in the show (around the time he met Claude) that he began to truly understand the gift that he had.
And you'll recall that Peter was wanting to get out there and fly. He was excited about having superpowers. But the only people he could trust, Nathan and Angela, were both dead set on discouraging him and telling him to have a normal life. They didn't want him to ruin Nathan's perfect image for the election. Peter was torn between wanting to fly and his love for his brother.
Fast forward to season 2. Peter has a case of stolen memories. The Haitian cleaned out his short term memory very completely and he had nothing left. In fact, Peter didn't even know he had powers until they appeared when he was angry or in danger. But once he knew he had them, he did use them. He used them to protect Caitlin. He used them on the armored car heist with Caitlin's brother.
And finally, in season 2, when Peter was in Primatech with Adam Monroe and they were battling down to the vault, Peter was using his powers openly and unchecked. He was slamming dudes against the walls all over the place. He shot electric arcs at Hiro. He telekinesised open the vault door.
When Peter wants to be a badass with powers, he can. The only problem is, he needs focus. His personality seems like the type that is a follower, not a leader. When he has someone to direct him, he really shines. Its just too bad that the first evidence we have of his full capabilities is when he was fighting for the wrong side.
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Peter can't use his powers because he can't concentrate and is an idiot, Hiro can't use his powers because he can't concentrate, has no confidence and is an idiot, Sylar can't use his powers because of magic juice and Nikki can't use her powers because she has a split personality who activates her seemingly natural muscle power somehow and shes an idiot.
Or they come up with ways to take away their power. Or bad explanations for the source of their power. Its the brain now according to season 3. Because the brain can make you generate flames or heal when its been near destroyed and impaled on a stick -_-. I know, I know, it requires some sense of disbelief to be abandoned but this show requires you to just be as big an idiot as most of the cast.
Its like to make sure HGH was able to outdo them at every turn, they made him smart and them powerful but clinically retarded. Ted was the only character who had a right to feel a bit isolated and angry about his situation and he was written decently I think for someone who inadvertently killed his wife and destroys everything around him. Suresh, possibly the smartest person in teh show, is somehow the most idiotic of all. Its like Bizarro world.
It really makes me angry at what this show could be and where it is and where it is going as of the first 4 episodes of the new season.
This is disturbingly true.
I mean, time travel is always a confusing story element (I cannot imagine why people even bother to us it, it's so frustrating), but we've got two people who can travel at will through time, bringing people and things back and forth. Moreover, we've seen that the Heroes universe is apparently not a predestination system: time travel changes the future without a predestination paradox unraveling the change. (this is made more confusing because, inexplicably, Hiro was apparently predestined to travel into the past and be the great Hero).
So, if you're Peter, you have zero reason not to just go back and stop stuff. Go back, kill Sylar before he kills everyone. Convince Claire's father of the Company's evil. Hell, go further back and keep Hiro from befriending whatshisname, the immortal. You've got time travel, and godlike powers. Man, make it even simpler: go back to when you had no memories and FIX YOURSELF!
Eesh. They need to kill the entire cast and start over. The idea of a fresh cast every season was great.
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Nothing particularly interesting so far. One sounds like a rip-off of Trauma, one Magneto-lite, one sounds exactly like Cheerleaders mum (it looks like everyone is related to her in some way, no wonder she has such a personality issue) and one the Puppetmaster.
I dunno about you guys but when I'm billing these guys as horrible villains so destructive and powerful that they needed to be locked away, I wouldn't describe them as "a confused kid who got caught up between doing the right thing and the wrong thing".
I give the 6 listed except maybe the German one season. None of them sound particularly interesting and theres no evil, hot women?
I can see them clearly going the molester route, having him kidnap a main female and keep her as a pet without actually touching her in that way but she will break free and kill him. ANd he'll be proven to not be all that threatening.
Seriously, the way they were billing it I was expecting a son of Xavier down there or something, insane power.