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Is anyone here regretting buying a PS3?
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Developers have found it hard to grasp the programming of the PS3 architechture, even one of the greatest programmers out there - John Carmack states that you have to sweat bullets to get the PS3 to do what a PC or 360 can do. It does take longer to code and optimise, the only developers that can really take advantage of it are first party Sony developers, who will have a budget and greater team size than most 3rd party groups, who basically get a new assembly language shoved in their faces and told to learn it if they want to programme - costing time, money and staff to do so. Developers are now grasping what the PS3 can do and are making games side by side with multiplatform games.
Developers who are building with only PS3 in mind when making a game will get better results.
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are we talking about exclusives now?
The problem is that it is much more proprietary. The 360 is essentially a PC in a small box, and is why there is huge crossover between the two platforms. Code to make things work on the PC can be used for the 360 and vice versa. This isn't the case in many aspects for the PS3.
So it's not a case of incompetency, it is a case of economics. On one hand you can make one game that works on 2 systems or 1 game which works on 1 system, to be extremely reductionist.
It's also hard to argue with the multiplayer invites thing, it's not too much a bugger for me since I generally like to set aside time for multiplayer and single player games.
So once again we go back to the point on what a gamer emphasizes on, for me, I like to know that I can play any game any time without risking a console failure. By the way jclast, do you own a PS3? I personally don't, so I'm really not using my own life experiences to argue; but you do sound like you own one, and quite dislike it (I might be wrong here).
So let's recap: three, maybe four people that particpated in this thread regret buying PS3's. We done here?
yeah, and it's a shame. do you want me to buy a 360 for it? 'fraid not, buuu-dy
Eh, there are games in this generation alone that prove you wrong, especially when it comes to the 360 and PS3, especially EA.
Also, for what it's worth I had no problems with either the DS or the DS2. It's really just the L2 and R2 triggers that piss me off on the DS3 and SIXAXIS. And you're right, the d-pad on most 360 controllers is complete crap (I don't know if the internals are different, but my Halo 3 360 pad has a great d-pad).
I think a big issue is that guys like Gabe Newell and Carmack are PC programmers. So of COURSE they think the pC/360 is easier. It's what they know. And the Wii is easy because Nintendo has basically used the same platform for ages. It's harder up front because it requires learning a new way to think. like people that had been using MS Office for years and switched to Office 2007. It was different. but once they learned it, they were fine.
I think that is why we hear almost nothing about FF13. Square spent so much time making the PS3 version and decided to go multi after years of single platform developement. So Square has to spend even more time making sure the the two come out the same, because a port of something made with the PS3 in mind would suck.
Actually Motorstorm is a very narrow racer compared to Baja, Motorstorm focuses on small created tracks you can't move from, making it easier to budget polygons/texture space whereas Baja is a few thousand kilometers of open terrain. Engines that stream and are open ended are much harder to get looking good as one that can just load one small area and focus on making it look good (higher def textures and polycount etc)
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again, i own games from the height of that framerate crisis, and they're still great. they still scored ninety-five. frame-rate never mattered that much until it stood as some arbitrary symbol of a system's power, and i'm not tricked by that
sure, but it's no more a swing-vote than lbp, resistance or wipeout. the two systems have their exclusive assets but that's not the area of discusssion. what i'm trying to say is that even if there are slight, noticable performance issues between two versions of a game, in the end, you're playing the same thing
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I don't even know what Left for Dead is. To me, it's a game on some other system. That stuff happens. I mean, Can I claim that the Wii is better than the 360 because Mad World is only coming to the Wii? Or House of the Dead?
But you are right about the Orange Box stuff. I am basically giving Valve the finger on that one. It gives me this "Gabe never liked the multi core thing anyway, but we did make a subpar port and got your money...but now we're through with you" vibe. Regardless, it does suck to have a major developer decide not to support a platform.
I'm not arguing for the 360 OR the PS3, but the thing is, you're playing the same thing, so why would you not want to buy the game for a system it plays more smoothly on?
Just because games look about the same from one platform to another doesn't mean the experiences between them are equal.
Eh, the PS3 is absolutely fine if it's the only high-def console you have. There's a lot of crossover between the 360 and PS3 though, so I'd only buy both if the few exclusives on both sides appeal to you enough. The 360 seems to be getting a few more exclusives, then again it's been out longer and has a lead in sales so that's to be expected.
Class doesn't always gurantee quality. The first Resistance was a decent game, but the environments were pretty sparse, and there wasn't really anything new about the gameplay or the story. Don't get me wrong, it was a fun game, and the online had some good modes. Totally worth 30. But judging from the original, though this one will have legs because it's exclusive, the single player can totally go either way on it. Multi sounds nice, especially co-op, but don't even get me started on how the lack of a pack in mic really REALLY hurts anything multi on the system.
are you trying to say my versions of fifa and nhl '08 are unplayable y/n
Listen, framerates only matter when they're noticeably slow. No one gives a shit about dev platforms outside of games programmers and anal idiots.
Fun games are fun, whichever box you play 'em on doesn't matter.
Its a baiting thread. They should be locked since noting good really comes out of them or any console war thread.
Xbox Live Gamertag: Suplex86
Every thread like this ALWAYS ends in PS3 vs 360 debates
I've decided I'm going to sell my PS3 anyway.
will you stop posting if he says n
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But it is very noticeable and really jarring if you are accustomed to the 60 fps version. But you can't miss something that you've never had so I guess it doesn't matter for you.
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because i only own a ps3
I agree with your last line, but my question still stands.
If you could play the game on 30FPS or 60PFS which would you choose? I'm not arguing for either console, but it seems to me obvious that it's logical to go for the game that performs more smoothly.
It's the same game, it's still fun. But if I can buy the version that runs better, even just slightly better, why not?
EDIT: To bsjezz, that's fair enough, but I guess I should clarify matters a little and say that I'm arguing from a point of view where both consoles are available. If you only have either console, then this really doesn't apply. I'm just saying IF you had the choice, why not.
there aren't too many standalone player that come close to PS3 in video quality for BD and DVD. I would of bought the PS3 as a standalone player even if there were zero games to play.
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"Well there's your problem"
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Okay, let's argue this from your perspective. For games that I could buy for either platform - like Assassin's Creed or DMC4 - I'm getting the same general experience. Now take that knowledge and run with it. If I can get roughly the same experience out of either console why would I buy the more expensive console for anything but exclusives - especially if some multiplatform games don't come out for it and other multiplat games don't ship for it at the same time as 360 (like RB2)?