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ROUND TWO: FIGHT E: PRE-FIGHT DEBATE
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MARTIAN MANHUNTER – Created by: Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa
POWERS AND ABILITIES: Superhuman strength, speed and endurance, Invulnerability, Invisibility, Intangibility, Shape Shifting, Telepathy, Flight, Martian vision
GREEN LANTERN – Created by: John Broome and Gil Kane
POWERS AND ABILITIES: Power Ring can create objects out of tangible light, limited only by the user's imagination.
IRON MAN – Created by: Stan Lee, Larry Lieber, Don Heck & Jack Kirby
POWERS AND ABILITIES: Genius-level intellect.
Wears suits of powered armor that endow him with superhuman abilities and supersonic flight.Body technologically altered to enhance armor response time. Able to manipulate all technology in the world through direct brain impulses.
THOR – Created by: Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby
POWERS AND ABILITIES: Superhuman Strength, Speed and Stamina, Semi-invulnerability, Flight (via Mjolnir), Weather Control, Force Blasts,
In all second round battles, heroes may choose to prepare only at their own facilities, or at the facilities of their supergroup. Heroes may match video of two of their three opponents. Heroes have TWENTY MINUTES outside of video time to prepare for battle. If a character opts out of the video, he still only has twenty minutes to prepare. Heroes come equipped with their standard equipment, and may equip one special item, provided that item is not a dues ex machina. Weaknesses that are not publicly known to the hero’s home universe/world will not be made available to the heroes during prep time. Heroes who already know of these weaknesses for whatever reason are not caused to forget this information.
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anyways, yeah, Manhunter and Thor
gods and martians are not bested by humans with fancy armor and rings
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Manhunter is safely through, as he can avoid/take out both Thor and Guy.
Ultimatley, it comes to Guy versus Thor. Can Man's will best the Power of the Gods?
Oh jeez.
MM is obviously easily through but I just can't see Guy's Will besting the strength of a Norse God.
Yeah.
We talked it enough earlier that I feel pretty good about those two.
And then get kicked into the volcano or something.
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You're so predictable.
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I think I'll go Thor and MM like everyone else.
Then it's a huge 3-way throwdown between Iron Man, Thor and Manhunter that leaves the entire battlefield a smoking crater. Actually, since there is a volcano and thus some active lava in this battlefield I'm going to give the nod to Tony again, barely, as I suspect J'onn will end up taking a lava bath somehow. Also remember that Tony can simply download J'onn's fighting style into the suit, giving him a pretty major advantage. Barring cheap tricks, Iron Man can work over Captain America without issue so I could see him being able to at least survive agains J'onn for a good while. Thor will be immediately on top of course, one on one he could crush most of the guys here. (Without direct yellow light the fight against Lantern could be interesting, but in the end I can't see Lantern winning vs. Mjolnir. Clor one-shotted Goliath after all.)
So I'ma break the trend a bit and say Thor and then Iron Man (by a whisker and probably with half his armor fractured at the end, but he'll still barely eke out.)
2. Beating Captain America has nothing to do with fighting Martian Manhunter
J'onn can take way more fucking damage, and oh yeah, just phase his arm right through Tony's armor.
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Wait, WTF? I thought yellow was the crux of the Green Lantern weakness and the only thing that made them beatable. If Guy isn't stopped by yellow he'll win the whole thing because the ring just, like, lets him unmake the other three.
He has to be weak to something, and I was under the impression it's yellow light.
I meant in the fact that the armor will be able to anticipate what J'onn is doing, just like it does in other fights. Especially with 20 minutes video time (probably 7 minutes or so MM watching time) the armor could learn a lot.
I'll grant that, too, though I think Tony may have a chance if he can stay out of melee and somehow get J'onn to take a lava bath.
Still though... if this Green Lantern isn't weak to yellow, he is going to wreck everybody's shit in this fight. As good as J'onn and Thor are, GL is wielding the most powerful weapon in the universe.
I am right about one thing though - there'll be nothing left of the battlefield by the time this is over.
And Thor is just Thor. He can take it and he can dish it out, plain and simple.
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IM and Thor, teamed up. The volcano + the forest = enough fire to take the martian out.
It's a heated battle with just about everyone gettin' a good pounding. But, at the end of the day, Martian Manhunter and Thor are just too effin' tough and smart to be taken down. Guy and Tony are resourceful, but just completely outclassed when all is said and done.
So, J'onn and Thor move on by the skin of their teeth.
I would say that if the Marvel guys would team up, I can't see the DC guys not following suit, and I think after being Iron Man quickly, I think Guy and J'onn could beat Thor as both characters can be very resourceful.
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Tony comes at Guy in the powersuit, and just to be a dick Guy uses his ring to form an even better powersuit. Then he kicks the shit out of Tony while making mocking him.
Thor vs Martian Manhunter is a tight one, but I really see this coming down to a 2 on 2 fight along company lines. Tony goes out relatively easily, then MM and Guy are able to team Thor.
MM/Guy for the win.
Same thing with GL and MM, cept replace Avengers with Justice League and Marvel with DC.
Well, yeah. Of course. I just wrote "company lines" because it was faster than writing that one side would be former Avengers and the other side Justice League. It amounts to the same thing, so I didn't really see the need to split hairs over it, especially when it's been referenced a bunch of times already.
No, he probably couldn't go toe to toe with Thor, thats what J'onn is for. J'onn would instantly be able to size up both Iron Man and Thor, and realize Thor would be the biggest threat.
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True, the outcome of these matches really depends on who goes after who. With only 4 contestants things are pretty limited.
I think Guy could take IM, not sure about MM vs. Thor though.
The second Tony hears he'll be fighting MM, he'll be like "Thor wear a psi blocker, and I'll install a flamethrower."
Yeah? I thought IM had uber machinelike reflexces and everything. No idea though, i've never actually read any of the comics these guys are from. (Cept civil war and thor fighting the hulk)
Im sure his suit gives him all sorts of hightened reflexes but MM can move almost as fast as the flash if he is anything like Supes. So when dealing with that kind of speed, which IM has never had to do since Marvel characters don't go that fast, I don't think the suit will be enough to help.