ROUND TWO: FIGHT E: PRE-FIGHT DEBATE

Kuribo's Shoe

robosagogo wrote:

What's Iron Man's suit made of? Vibranium?

it depends on what he's fighting that week, but if he needs vibranium it'll by god be made of vibranium

that's the nice thing about iron man, he basically can have any power you want him to and the writers can just say "oh he installed that last week"

robosagogo

You can't just install a new kind of metal in a suit, though. He'd have to rebuild the thing from scratch.

What is the standard suit made of?

Marathon

robosagogo wrote:

You can't just install a new kind of metal in a suit, though. He'd have to rebuild the thing from scratch.

What is the standard suit made of?

I think Shoe just means that the toughness of his suit depends on the situation. One week he can be getting it handed to him and his gear will take a beating and the next week he can shrug off a missle.

Kuribo's Shoe

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Bad Karma

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

Kuribo's Shoe

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

I don't even think you could technically call him Iron Man anymore.

Bad Karma

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

I don't even think you could technically call him Iron Man anymore.

Molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection Man?

Kuribo's Shoe

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

I don't even think you could technically call him Iron Man anymore.

Molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection Man?

yeah I guess that'd never fit on a cover.

Bad Karma

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

I don't even think you could technically call him Iron Man anymore.

Molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection Man?

yeah I guess that'd never fit on a cover.

Well, thats why we just call him Tony.

Kuribo's Shoe

should call him Alcoholic Armor Guy.

Bad Karma

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

should call him Alcoholic Armor Guy.

Hey..you got the AA in there. Nice.

manaleak34

A MM/Guy Vs. Thor/IM battle seem most likely.

Guy I'm pretty sure could take out Tony. If a Lantern Ring could damage EmoBoy-Prime's Anti-Monitor armor then I think it can take out Iron Man's armor with the right blast.

The Thor Vs. MM is whole other thing. In the long run I think Thor would be able to take out MM but if Guy can take out Iron Man early then together I think MM and Guy could take care of Thor.

Sentry

Marathon wrote:

Im sure Tony would equip some flame throwers for his suit. He can watch some tapes of MM and easily add them to the suit. The problem there is that MM is also as fast as Superman. MM can fly up to IM and punch his head off before Tony can start shooting fire.

This is why I think it is Guy and MM who should take it. Their powers compliment each other much better then Tony and Thor's do... Guy can protect MM from Iron Man, and MM can protect Guy from Thor. Additionally, they have the power of telepathy to help them coordinate, while Iron Man and Thor don't.

Plus, if this is Hitler's Brain Thor, he might just take out some civilians, which would disqualify him.

Marathon

Sentry wrote:

Marathon wrote:

Im sure Tony would equip some flame throwers for his suit. He can watch some tapes of MM and easily add them to the suit. The problem there is that MM is also as fast as Superman. MM can fly up to IM and punch his head off before Tony can start shooting fire.

This is why I think it is Guy and MM who should take it. Their powers compliment each other much better then Tony and Thor's do... Guy can protect MM from Iron Man, and MM can protect Guy from Thor. Additionally, they have the power of telepathy to help them coordinate, while Iron Man and Thor don't.

Plus, if this is Hitler's Brain Thor, he might just take out some civilians, which would disqualify him.

Hitler brain Thor killed an anti-reg, not a civilian.

Sentry

Marathon wrote:

Sentry wrote:

Marathon wrote:

Im sure Tony would equip some flame throwers for his suit. He can watch some tapes of MM and easily add them to the suit. The problem there is that MM is also as fast as Superman. MM can fly up to IM and punch his head off before Tony can start shooting fire.

This is why I think it is Guy and MM who should take it. Their powers compliment each other much better then Tony and Thor's do... Guy can protect MM from Iron Man, and MM can protect Guy from Thor. Additionally, they have the power of telepathy to help them coordinate, while Iron Man and Thor don't.

Plus, if this is Hitler's Brain Thor, he might just take out some civilians, which would disqualify him


Hitler brain Thor killed an anti-reg, not a civilian.

Right, but you know Hitler... he's got to kill a civilian at SOME point...

Marathon

Sentry wrote:

Marathon wrote:

Sentry wrote:

Marathon wrote:

Im sure Tony would equip some flame throwers for his suit. He can watch some tapes of MM and easily add them to the suit. The problem there is that MM is also as fast as Superman. MM can fly up to IM and punch his head off before Tony can start shooting fire.

This is why I think it is Guy and MM who should take it. Their powers compliment each other much better then Tony and Thor's do... Guy can protect MM from Iron Man, and MM can protect Guy from Thor. Additionally, they have the power of telepathy to help them coordinate, while Iron Man and Thor don't.

Plus, if this is Hitler's Brain Thor, he might just take out some civilians, which would disqualify him


Hitler brain Thor killed an anti-reg, not a civilian.

Right, but you know Hitler... he's got to kill a civilian at SOME point...

Good point. So just be on the lookout for a thin black moustache on Thor, then we'll have a better idea who we are dealing with.

manaleak34

Depends on what civilians are around.

If it's a primarly jewish city, he's screwed.

The Muffin Man

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Kuribo's Shoe wrote:

officially:

Wikipedia wrote:

Iron Man's powers and abilities derive from the advanced powered armor that he wears. The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection.

Man..remember when Iron Man wore a bulky metal suit? Good times.

I don't even think you could technically call him Iron Man anymore.

Molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized Iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of great resilience and protection Man?

BAM, Loophole.

Caveman Paws

I can easily see this going very well for the DC boys. I almost want to vote for Guy and MM but then someone brought up flamethrowers for Tony and psi blocker for Thor and now I'm back at square one.

I can see Thor tank for Tony while he blasts MM with flame, thus leaving Guy alone and totally screwed. But then again I can easily see MM just zipping up to Tony and putting him down *snap* like that thus leaving Thor alone to fight an impossible battle.

What do I do!

Sentry

What does your heart tell you?

Mai-Kero

Tony can react just as quickly as MM, and he has flamethrowers and other awesome stuff.

Thor is a god. God beats Guy, who, while awesome, is not a god.

Tony and Thor win.

Terrorbyte

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Vapid

I think the JLAers will win, but goddamn I just wish I could see this fight played out in comics or in a movie or something.

Mai-Kero

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

Terrorbyte

Mai-Kero wrote:

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

deadonthestreet

Mai-Kero wrote:

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

But Martian Manhunter somehow moves faster than though.

Caveman Paws

If Tony could keep an eye on MM at all times then I would say his "reaction time" would come in handy. The question is can MM move so fast that it's impossible to keep a visual(or IR,radar,sonar,etc) on him?

Since all heroes seem to be able to use their powers to do anything/beat anyone (see speed force, batmans prep time,etc) this just comes down to "what makes more sense", and since that will be based on how well you know the character it will all boil down to who you like more.

The Luggage

deadonthestreet wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

But Martian Manhunter somehow moves faster than though.

He moves faster than human thought.

DarkPrimus

SpaceDrake wrote:

deadonthestreet wrote:

1. Guy has no problem with yellow

Wait, WTF? I thought yellow was the crux of the Green Lantern weakness and the only thing that made them beatable. If Guy isn't stopped by yellow he'll win the whole thing because the ring just, like, lets him unmake the other three. He just has to think "oh hey, I think I want their blood to become plasma" or "how about they all get hit with 1000 spears of light from every direction" and bam, instant win.

He has to be weak to something, and I was under the impression it's yellow light.

The weakness is that the ring is limited to his willpower and imagination.

Guy's not the smartest guy around (likes to brute force it, mostly), and if you piss him off, he can lose his concentration.

I certainly wish the GL rings were as powerful as you think they are, but they are not magical deus ex machina machines... machina.

I gives it to Thor and MM. If nothing else, MM will just phase out for most of the battle because he doesn't want to get toasted.

Regina Fong

Martian Manhunter and Thor. Probably in that order, but I haven't decided yet.

Spectre-x

Mai-Kero wrote:

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

It doesn't even come close to J'onn's reaction and movement time.

Seeing as Tony can't move almost as fast as the Flash, which MM can probably do since a White Martian managed to do so.

So yes, Tony is absolutely and totally fucked.

Oh, and That "anticipating the opponent's moves" Tony can do? J'onn can do that better, with his telepathy and shapeshifting. He beat the shit out of Ultraman with it.

Scooter

You get that the fight is over right

Mai-Kero

Spectre-x wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Terrorbyte wrote:

Mai-Kero wrote:

Tony can react just as quickly as MM

:?: :!:

Post extremis Tony has the best reaction time in the world, basically.

It doesn't even come close to J'onn's reaction and movement time.

Seeing as Tony can't move almost as fast as the Flash, which MM can probably do since a White Martian managed to do so.

So yes, Tony is absolutely and totally fucked.

Oh, and That "anticipating the opponent's moves" Tony can do? J'onn can do that better, with his telepathy and shapeshifting. He beat the shit out of Ultraman with it.

?

Shiiiiiiiiiit

Spectre-x

Scooter wrote:

You get that the fight is over right

?

I just got back from London, what'd I miss.

EDIT: Oh snap.

Anyway, J'onn should win.

Marathon

Spectre-x wrote:

Scooter wrote:

You get that the fight is over right

?

I just got back from London, what'd I miss.

EDIT: Oh snap.

Anyway, J'onn should win.

Don't worry, he did.

Vapid

The thing that was funny was that J'onn was actually fighting GL for 2nd place the whole time since almost everyone thought Thor was going to win. So basically J'onn hurt GL's chances of winning even though in the fight they compliment each other.