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Presidential Debates: The Second. Time to townhall
Elki
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WARNING: There is the only warning you'll get about not filling this thread with stuff unrelated to the debate.
Location: Nashville, TN
Time: 9:00 EDT / 8:00 PM CDT
Moderator: Tom Brokaw
Rules:
Location: Nashville, TN
Time: 9:00 EDT / 8:00 PM CDT
Moderator: Tom Brokaw
Rules:
Under the deal, the moderator may not ask followups or make comments. The person who asks the question will not be allowed a follow-up either, and his or her microphone will be turned off after the question is read. A camera shot will only be shown of the person asking -- not reacting.
While there will be director's chairs (with backs and foot rests), McCain and Obama will be allowed to stand -- but they can't roam past their "designated area" to be marked on the stage. McCain and Obama are not supposed to ask each other direct questions.
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[T]he candidates are banned during the debates from moving to the other side -- and from wielding proposed pledges.
While there will be director's chairs (with backs and foot rests), McCain and Obama will be allowed to stand -- but they can't roam past their "designated area" to be marked on the stage. McCain and Obama are not supposed to ask each other direct questions.
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[T]he candidates are banned during the debates from moving to the other side -- and from wielding proposed pledges.
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The Economy.
And Ayers.
Isn't it voter submitted questions?
What a stupid rule.
That's too bad about the followups, but I'm sure everyone will get tired of saying "You didn't answer my question" after the fourth person mentions it.
Yes, this is a town hall styled debate. More informal, intimate style. In theory, at least.
That's what they're suggesting, but I'm not sure how I feel about them not being allowed to interact with each other
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Essentially this is exactly like the VP debate, but the questions are coming from audience members instead of the so called moderator.
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It will certainly have less viewers than the VP debate.
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread.
don't seem so surprised im sure there are people out there saying "I wouldn't be surprised if he was the messiah". but you don't hear from those people because they are lunatics where as the anti-christ people are lunatics hiding behind established doctrine.
Also, looking at the format for this debate makes it clear why McCain was such a fan.
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Honestly, how many code words for "black" do you need?
Yeah, the format definitely favors his current campaign rhetoric. The only way Obama wins is to not play by the debate rules (without obviously being seen to deviate from them).
Honestly, if Obama wins, I expect them fully to state that "See, a black guy was elected to the President, thus proof racism is dead."
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The Inaguration will be so scary, until they get Riot Hose'd and German Sheperd'd.
They'd better bring raincoats!
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Man, how appropriate would that be?
Not very.
I can't wait for Boondocks Season 3.
Its the Rick Lazio Rule. In 2000, Rick Lazio went across stage to try to get HRC to "sign a pledge." I can't find the video now but it was controversial beacuse it seemed like Lazio was trying to physically intimidate HRC.
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The Inauguration of the President is actually one of the most organized and heavily protected events in the world. Not only do you have the President, but you'll have every important member of the US government, many business and cultural leaders, thousands of onlookers (almost all pre-selected) and foreign dignitaries. Its a reassertion of Democracy in America where the losing side graciously concedes power. There's no way protesters get anywhere near the President.
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I'm 99% positive I read something on Slashdot about Obama's stance on IP laws (this would have been during the primaries). Let me see if I can find it.
There's nothing in it that's even slightly town hall (the questions are picked by the moderator, woo), makes it any more intimate (there's LESS interaction than the normal debate format!), or any more insightful.
Why the fuck are they doing this inane format?
McCain bitched about it and threatened to take his ball home. For real though, since they threw a bone to McCain, I want another debate to be all about speechifying.
I doubt either will since its a fringe issue among non-nerds. However, I would point out, one of Obama's chief advisers on such matters is Lawrence Lessig and John McCain doesn't know how to use a computer.
In case people missed it the first time around, Lawrence Lessig on why is he is 4Barack
edit Sorry for poor youtube quality, better available at lessig.org
edit 2 Damn, my bad, forgot this was the debate thread and not the general President thread
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