Prox's Mythtamer thread!

PROX

Hey guys I've been developing this for a while. Tell me what you think?!

Tam

Impressed. That's what I am. I'll give you crits when I find my mandible.

Value range, tribal concepts, tengu- you couldn't give me much better.

earthwormadam

That masked witch doctor thing is a total badass. And he is going to give me nightmares.

PROX

earthwormadam wrote: »

That masked witch doctor thing is a total badass. And he is going to give me nightmares.

that's his face. he's a giant mythical bird man spirit monster that haunts forests.

NightDragon

This stuff is going to rock out pretty hard, man...I can feel it.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again......I love those sketches.

PROX

Thanks ND! And thanks Tam!

I'm giving it everything.

RubberAC

In my opinion there is not nearly enough tengu-related art on this board

Asamof the Horrible

These are awesome, keep posting the progress plz kthx

srsizzy

Wait, so what exactly are you developing? A game? A story?

It's all pretty effin awesome. I honestly didn't know how good you were with "serious" drawings like these. I've only seen your carrots and cartoons.

r-jasper

hey prox. awesome stuff man. looks really freaking cool.

love Tengu!

Kazhiim

That tengu has a big nose. How does he smell?

Terrible!





wait

Tam

Kazhiim, get back in your cage.

JohnTWM

Wow, totally awesome. Yeah I was kind of wondering what it was for also, because the only thing I can see (since these appear to be character designs which would imply you would be drawing them a lot) is detail gonna be an issue? I mean the Myth Tamer has A LOT of intricate detail work I imagine would take forever to reproduce.

Buckwolfe

Wow. You can consider me pretty much floored by this display. I'd love to go and knit pick if I find anything, or have the time later. As of right now I'm a little too taken aback. I'd honestly forgotten just how fucking capable you are.

JohnTWM

Just a thought, but have you tried reversing the horns on it's head? here is a quick edit to your original image to show what it would look like.
vs.
I think it gives a better over all balance to the figure, but you might disagree.

beavotron

fucking awesome prox

PROX

John: I just copy and paste the lineart into the texture file as a based to paint over. Not as complicated as you think. Also I feel like the way I had it has better balance. The composition makes you look over the face, instead of going down one side.

Buckwolfe: Thanks verymuch! I look forward to crits. Also i may change the fuzzy sleaves to pleated kimono stuff. The hair is not too interesting to me right now.

Beavo: Thanks Ms. Tron!

Mustang

Awesome drawing Prox but I'm kinda feeling that there's just a touch too much shit going on with it.Like a lot of the bells and whistles could be removed to make it a bit cleaner.

eg.
Spoilered for nasty clone stamping.

Anyway just my two cents.

Buckwolfe

PROX wrote: »

Buckwolfe: Also i may change the fuzzy sleaves to pleated kimono stuff. The hair is not too interesting to me right now.

I'm all for experimentation, but I can't help feeling that a pleated sleeve would only flatten out the image, and run the risk of making the overall design that much less inspired. That's not to say that you shouldn't give it a shot. By all means, please do so, but I personally can't see it being more interesting than what you already have going. Could be wrong though. Even so I am 100% in favor of a hair, or hair-like material. If you're not that keen on hair, then try a substitute. Like straw, or something of that ilk.

I think that the problem (if there is one to speak of) that you might have with the hair, is that the way you're drawing it. It almost looks like cloth to me, instead of...well....not cloth. I love the idea of hair themed apparel, but it doesn't look like its acting like hair would. Hair tends to sort of...bunch? Clump? In any case, it doesn't have the same physics as a sheet of cloth does.

John: I'm also not completely sure if I agree with your idea. I keep staring at the two side-by-side, and find myself more drawn to Prox's original. It has a much nicer flow to it. If you just follow the flow of the tip of each extremity to the opposing one, it has a much smoother flow, or transition.

Mustang: Not to be overly negative, but I'm very keen on the overt bells and whistles. I can see where you're coming from though. It might not be that there's too much, but that it doesn't feel completely unified. With no disrespect to Prox, or his fantastic art, the drawing in general feels unpolished. Its on the right fucking track and all, but I think it might be missing that last vital step to really bring it full circle.

I suck at conveying ideas sometimes. This might be one of them.

Zombiemambo

Being a tribal-inspired design, extravagent charms and skulls and things like that really add to it.

Mustang

Yeah I did take that into account...but I dunno, it still looks overdone to me.
Like doorways would be an insurmountable task, "Oh fuck the mythtamer is coming! Call the builders! We need double doorways on these huts poste haste or there's going to be a shitstorm heading ourway!"

Buckwolfe

I guess I could see how that might be valid, if it were the case. However, I'm just not seeing it, Mustang. As far as I'm concerned, it could even stand to have more, if it were treated carefully. It doesn't necessarily need more though. As it stands I think that its not only perfectly adequate, but accurate.

Mustang

Look, just start agreeing with me okay! Is it really that hard? To just agree with me! GOD!

Buckwolfe

It's for your own good. I do it because I care, dammit!!

rts

I agree with Mustang, but I have always preferred the simpler things when it comes to design.

NightDragon

I think it's fine, actually...the only thing that I would change are the sleeves, or the lower-half of the "pants". I feel like if either one were less "voluminous", it would fix whatever problem there seems to be with it looking over-complex. There are just so many large forms and shapes like that, I think making one of those two thinner or something would make it look a bit better.

Scosglen

It seems like people generally like the big foofy guy, so I realize I'm gonna be the outlier here, but I really have to say that the design is just not jiving with me.

It's difficult to articulate exactly why I don't like it, so forgive me if this is clear as mud. The costume just seems too flamboyant and, well, "foofy". It's like a cross between a K.I.S.S. and a Cher costume with a shaman flavor. Something about the rhythm of the shapes makes it seem almost puppet-like. Maybe if we could see him in a pose moving around or gesturing a bit more naturally like most of the original silhouette thumbnails it might change my mind.

RubberAC

It's not a costume, it's wings. He is a bird-man. That's essentially what a Tengu is.

JohnTWM

RubberAC wrote: »

It's not a costume, it's wings. He is a bird-man. That's essentially what a Tengu is.

I think scos was talking about the Myth Tamer, not Tengu, but I could be wrong.

Scosglen

Yes, I'm talking about the Myth Tamer.

PROX

Thanks for the feedback. I will work on the sleeves. They are kinda lazy...

RubberAC

Oh ok that makes way more sense. I just thought it was a girl. Thus the 'foofy guy' threw me off.

PROX

Update!





To save time, i've decided to forgo texturing the muscles of the legs, and went straight to the sleeves.

NeoRedXIII

I'd really love to see the archer developed as well.

PROX

progress

NightDragon

Way-cool, mang.

PROX

Thanks ND.

It's been an interesting experience trying to wrap my head around texturing. 8-)

This one character has taught me a lot about making video game assets. In texture painting specifically, there is a lot of back and forth between maya and photoshop, doing a lot of testing to see if things work out on the model.

Prospicience

PROX wrote: »

It's been an interesting experience trying to wrap my head around texturing. 8-)

>.<

Prox, I love'a this'a stuff. Almost as much as I a love'a some meat'ah balls.

mattharvest

Your legs are wrong: right now, you've drawn them as if they angle out from the hip, and then go straight down. In fact, your hip joint is actually in line with the center line of your leg and knee.

PROX

Drawover please.

edit no wait: Her feet are spread at an angle...i dont understand your critique.

okay now i get it. Her feet are spread apart. if her knees were together, then it would line up with the pelvis.

PROX

Hmm, I did make the upper leg too short, which i corrected in my model. I needed to indicated more foreshortening.