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video games murdered my parents

World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious peopleRegistered User regular
edited October 2008 in Social Entropy++
video games getting blamed for violence is a topic that really infuriates me

yesterday I got an email to a mailing list I'm part of, asking if someone could borrow the box for a grand theft auto game, which piqued my curiosity, so I read the rest of the email

turns out this person wanted to borrow it to display on a Day of the Dead altar at a local museum, the altar's purpose being a dedication to young victims of violence

this really infuriated me, but I didn't know how to constructively email them back and say "hey how about you put something actually relevant on that altar of yours" -- especially since I think a tribute altar to victims of violence is a nice thing to do, in general, and I don't want to come off like a total prick to someone I don't even know, but man

what the hell can we do to get people who aren't part of the culture to realize that it's a close-minded and totally ridiculous viewpoint, exacerbated by psycho assholes in courtrooms who want to blame their irresponsible acts of violence on something else and not take personal responsibility?

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    kill them

    but seriously, rock music was demonized back in the day, people just got used to it and now nobody cares

    the same thing will happen with games

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't want to come off like a total prick to someone I don't even know

    but it's so easy

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    video games getting blamed for violence is a topic that really infuriates me

    yesterday I got an email to a mailing list I'm part of, asking if someone could borrow the box for a grand theft auto game, which piqued my curiosity, so I read the rest of the email

    turns out this person wanted to borrow it to display on a Day of the Dead altar at a local museum, the altar's purpose being a dedication to young victims of violence

    this really infuriated me, but I didn't know how to constructively email them back and say "hey how about you put something actually relevant on that altar of yours" -- especially since I think a tribute altar to victims of violence is a nice thing to do, in general, and I don't want to come off like a total prick to someone I don't even know, but man

    what the hell can we do to get people who aren't part of the culture to realize that it's a close-minded and totally ridiculous viewpoint, exacerbated by psycho assholes in courtrooms who want to blame their irresponsible acts of violence on something else and not take personal responsibility?

    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?

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  • OdenOden Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    you could just go about leading your life as normal instead of getting worked up about something so trivial that isnt going to influence a lot of people in the long run anyway

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    kill them

    but seriously, rock music was demonized back in the day, people just got used to it and now nobody cares

    the same thing will happen with games

    and comic books

    and women showing off their sinful ankles

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    good idea

    I should go play some Grand Theft Auto

    (when I play I feel bad about shooting people so usually I push them down then run away)

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    video games getting blamed for violence is a topic that really infuriates me

    yesterday I got an email to a mailing list I'm part of, asking if someone could borrow the box for a grand theft auto game, which piqued my curiosity, so I read the rest of the email

    turns out this person wanted to borrow it to display on a Day of the Dead altar at a local museum, the altar's purpose being a dedication to young victims of violence

    this really infuriated me, but I didn't know how to constructively email them back and say "hey how about you put something actually relevant on that altar of yours" -- especially since I think a tribute altar to victims of violence is a nice thing to do, in general, and I don't want to come off like a total prick to someone I don't even know, but man

    what the hell can we do to get people who aren't part of the culture to realize that it's a close-minded and totally ridiculous viewpoint, exacerbated by psycho assholes in courtrooms who want to blame their irresponsible acts of violence on something else and not take personal responsibility?

    stop games from being a niche market, really.

    The further video games are integrated into the mainstream and everday life, the less credible it will become when people try to cast scapegoats about

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought Dia de los Muertos was for candy skulls

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am excited for the PC version of GTA4

    I do not have a 360 you see

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?
    it's a group of grad students, I imagine they're in their mid-20s or older

    I didn't ask why they wanted to put it on the altar, but I can't think of any other reason. can you?

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  • J3pJ3p Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I fucking love the blame game up until about... halfway.

    Then it just gets repetitive and the level design really is lacking.

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  • DislexicDislexic Creepy Uncle Bad Touch Your local playgroundRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Rolo wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    kill them

    but seriously, rock music was demonized back in the day, people just got used to it and now nobody cares

    the same thing will happen with games

    and comic books

    and women showing off their sinful ankles

    mercy me, not that!

    THEY'LL RISE UP AND SLAUGHTER US ALL!

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I thought Dia de los Muertos was for candy skulls

    i thought it was for killing mexicans????

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited October 2008
    Send him back that graph plotting expansion of the game industry vs. violent crime rate

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I thought Dia de los Muertos was for candy skulls

    Yeah that strikes me as a bit odd as well, Day of the Dead is a very specific thing that doesn't mean what I think they think it means

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  • DislexicDislexic Creepy Uncle Bad Touch Your local playgroundRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Dislexic wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    kill them

    but seriously, rock music was demonized back in the day, people just got used to it and now nobody cares

    the same thing will happen with games

    and comic books

    and women showing off their sinful ankles

    mercy me, not that!

    THEY'LL RISE UP AND SLAUGHTER US ALL!

    WE'LL BE RADIATED BY SUPERVILLIANS AND BEAT TO DEATH WITH HANDBAGS WITH BRICKS IN THEM!

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Being sad about the dead on Dia de los Muertos is completely contradictory to the point of Dia de los Muerrrrtos

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i was playing mercs 2 yesterday and just razing the rainforest with tank shell after tank shell

    guess i better hand in my environmentalist card......

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  • DislexicDislexic Creepy Uncle Bad Touch Your local playgroundRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    stop putting too many rrrrr's in that word, single r, no rolling of the r

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    the day of the dead is the best of holidays

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  • J3pJ3p Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I guess you should send them a Grim Fandango box then?

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    Send him back that graph plotting expansion of the game industry vs. violent crime rate
    I don't think I've seen that, do you have it? I'm just curious to see what it looks like, I'm sure it doesn't really bode well for my point

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    J3p wrote: »
    I guess you should send them a Grim Fandango box then?
    haha good idea

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Dislexic wrote: »
    stop putting too many rrrrr's in that word, single r, no rolling of the r

    every spanish r is a rolled r

    in fact, you would pronounce "rolled" as rrroy-ed

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?
    it's a group of grad students, I imagine they're in their mid-20s or older

    I didn't ask why they wanted to put it on the altar, but I can't think of any other reason. can you?

    Are they ignant white people doing something in poor taste? Because my first thought was anybody who would do this was either an ignorant white person or a really bad walking stereotype.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    They should have put this on the altar:

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    edit damn you j3p

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Send them pictures of your boobies.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    WaM do you have a link to this movement or anything I could look at? I'm suddenly very curious about this.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    man i want to play Grim Fandango

    i would do terrible things

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Callius wrote: »
    Send them pictures of your boobies.

    I think they're asking for the GTA4 box because they don't have one.

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  • J3pJ3p Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Flaming beavers!

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  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?
    it's a group of grad students, I imagine they're in their mid-20s or older

    I didn't ask why they wanted to put it on the altar, but I can't think of any other reason. can you?

    Maybe it is ironical, and you don't all-the-way get it.


    You sort of get it, but they're still one step beyond you. You know, with the irony.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Seriously wrote: »
    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?
    it's a group of grad students, I imagine they're in their mid-20s or older

    I didn't ask why they wanted to put it on the altar, but I can't think of any other reason. can you?

    Maybe it is ironical, and you don't all-the-way get it.


    You sort of get it, but they're still one step beyond you. You know, with the irony.


    Yeah, I've never understood deep irony like ironic blackface or ironic serial murder so that could be
    Callius wrote: »
    Send them pictures of your boobies.

    Cal, you can't fix the world's problems with boobies.

    But I'd like to see you try.

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    How old was the person and why did they want to put it on the alter?
    it's a group of grad students, I imagine they're in their mid-20s or older

    I didn't ask why they wanted to put it on the altar, but I can't think of any other reason. can you?

    Are they ignant white people doing something in poor taste? Because my first thought was anybody who would do this was either an ignorant white person or a really bad walking stereotype.
    I seriously doubt it -- this was to a big grad student mailing list and they were very serious about how it was in honor of young victims of violence in my city

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  • DislexicDislexic Creepy Uncle Bad Touch Your local playgroundRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Dislexic wrote: »
    stop putting too many rrrrr's in that word, single r, no rolling of the r

    every spanish r is a rolled r

    in fact, you would pronounce "rolled" as rrroy-ed

    uhhh, no, it's not.

    If a single r is in the middle of the word, you don't roll it. It's a soft r. (there are a few exceptions)

    R's at the start of the word, you usually roll it. Rico.

    double r in the middle of a word is when you really roll it

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Javen wrote: »
    WaM do you have a link to this movement or anything I could look at? I'm suddenly very curious about this.
    I don't -- it was just an email

    this is the museum though: http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Haffenreffer/

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Barbie's Horse Adventures

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    here's the actual body of the email:
    Hi all,

    This might be the strangest request this week, but a group of grad students is working on a Day of the Dead altar for the Haffenreffer Museum, and we are looking to borrow the case for the video game Grand Theft Auto. We only need the box and not the game to display on the altar. We are dedicating the altar to young victims of violence here in Providence. After the altar gets de-installed we will return you case. We might be interested in other games as well.

    Thanks.

    I detect no irony

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Swear to god there's that irony word again

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sounds like the blame game to me

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