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New DNC chair and the outgoing chair
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My first reaction is god dammit. Dean won't be running for a second term as DNC chair. While this doesn't directly impact the White House, it will have a huge impact on the character of the national party and frees up a big gun for another spot, either in the Administration or a possible Senate run.
I'm not terribly worried about a backslide in the DNC, since I'm sure Obama will appoint someone who has their head on straight, but I have to say I'd really rather see Dean getting more respect from the party proper. Considering what he's managed he should be the Newt of the left.
I'm not terribly worried about a backslide in the DNC, since I'm sure Obama will appoint someone who has their head on straight, but I have to say I'd really rather see Dean getting more respect from the party proper. Considering what he's managed he should be the Newt of the left.
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What has Dean managed to accomplish as DNC chair? I'm curious why anyone would be upset by his departure? He seemed to sit back on the sidelines and let momentum do its thing.
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50 state strategy? He focused on growing state democratic organizations, instead of acting as a fundraiser for the DNC coffer. He's done more for the party than any DNC chair in recent history.
Maybe he'd rather maintain a low profile so that his actual public persona doesn't impact the elections he's trying to help win. Like it or not he wasn't a universally beloved figure so its possible that an ever present Dean could cost the DNC an election in some close races.
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You're really grasping here. I sincerely doubt there is a statistically significant bloc of voters out there who would be perfectly willing to vote Dem on the down ticket except man that guy Dean is such a jerk.
Man, Dean has been pretty damn visible as far as party chairs go. Can you name the current RNC chair? I know I had to go wiki it and I barely recognize the name. (Though it looks like the DNC chairs tend to be more visible than the RNC chairs in general.) It could have (possibly has had?) an effect on fundraising though. Remember Hillary and the DLC were laying the groundwork basically for their own parallel DNC during the primaries. I don't think that should be a reason for him to go anywhere, but if there's a lot of murmuring about Dean being that divisive, politically he might feel it's the right thing to do.
That's because anybody leading the dems has to be capable of herding cats.
Leahy looks like a less creepy James Carville.
I wonder what influence Obama will be able to bring to bear on who gets to replace Dean as DNC chair, and who he'd put his weight behind.
Leahy is also a huge fan of Batman and had a speaking cameo in The Dark Knight.
The man's been spotted driving his son's batmobile around the halls of the senate, if I remember the story in the Times correctly.
According to Ambinder: Traditionally, Dean is allowed to pick his successor. But Obama's also allowed to pick the successor and/or decide what the DNC is going to be for the next several years. And Dean is basically going to defer to Obama.
Basically Obama has all the influence, since Dean's apparently not going to be throwing out any names, and nobody's going to be fighting Obama at this point.
That doesn't seem like a lot of pressure, or anything.
Can we make him God-Emperor?
Do you think Heath Ledger had fun pulling a (fake) knife on and manhandling a sitting Senator? That must've been entertaining.
Also, I've always thought Leahy looked kinda like a kindlier Dick Cheney. I met him in 2005, I was in Leahy's front office getting a signature on some correspondence. I was just sitting in one of the reception chairs, minding my own business, when Leahy comes up to me and says "Hello." I look up and I think, "Oh my God Dick Cheney is here and he's going to tell me to go fuck myself."
Finally, Biden will be good cop to Emmanuel's bad cop when dealing with Congress. I totally called it, used those exact same words... though not on this forum. Too bad, you guys are more appreciative than the other heathens I was preaching to.
He has ridden the moon worm.
From what I've read about Rahm, though, that could mean that he'd only threaten Republicans with a knife rather than actually attacking.
I mean, I guess they're both old white dudes. I mean, I can see some resemblance, but I think you can pick out Cheney because he always has that sneer on his face.
And on the Rahm/Biden thing, I think everyone could guess that Rahm is the bad cop in that pair.
Well, i think he's automatically become a permanent Superdelegate or something just for being elected president, like Carter.
Gore for new head of the DNC?
I could think of worse people.
/Lord it's sad how that comment made me think of Gore thanks to Futurama.
Leahy was the one Cheney told to "Go fuck yourself." This similarity in looks is disturbing.
And, jeez, people, Obama isn't going to put Al Gore as the DNC chair. Didn't you get the memo? Its the Black House, so my only guess for DNC chair is William Jefferson or maybe Mos Def.
I wonder if there was a button someone could've used to make a thread by themselves without me splitting this.
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Anyway, directly on-topic: David Plouffe is the obvious choice if he wants the job.
Isn't Plouffe publicity shy as hell and disinclined to move his family? Not to say I don't think he's at least potentially a good choice, but I thought personal reasons ruled out his coming to Washington.
Well, depending on the situation, the DNC chair doesn't really need to be a hugely public figure. Dean did because he was waging an internal battle to get the 50 state strategy through. When you're winning it's less of a public figure (quick, name an RNC chair from the last eight years). If he was willing to move his family, Plouffe would be an excellent choice.
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It at the very least has potential. I thought of him being an Adviser to the President like Axelrod, with a lot of access and quiet influence but completely below radar, but now that you've put it out there I really like the idea of DNC chair as a sort of campaign manager in chief.
edit: Via Ambinder: Plouffe says not so much.
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That was only for the election, and they kept the DC office. Everything basically just got swallowed into Obama's operation out of Michigan Avenue to ensure it ran smoothly/had easier communications.
Does the chair actually have to be in DC all that often, though? It seems like he could work out of Chicago and most of the meetings take place at conventions or whatever in random parts of the country anyway. Hell, what does the DNC even do between elections aside from ask for donations and make the primary process more convoluted?
That's what a crappy DNC chairperson would do
A good DNC chair would split their time between keeping their ear to the ground in the next round of races (and to a lesser extent the round after), building party infrastructure, recruiting candidates and general talent, providing central/neutral leadership for the party at large, and fundraising/primary management.
Is there a cite for this, or is it just rumor at this point?
I think actually HHS would be a good fit for Dean. It's a very different job than DNC chair, and I think it explains why he'd want to do something closer to his calling (he's actually an MD) than being a political operative. I'm unsure of what specifically he did in Vermont, but I remember back in 2004 some hullabaloo about his health care plan.
Dr. Dynasaur. He did some great things for health care here, mostly for children and pregnant women (which is fine, as they're probably the most needy). He also did balance the state budget, and lowered income taxes, but raised property taxes by a nasty amount. They're at the point that we won't even buy a house until we move out of state, because we couldn't afford the taxes (a $100,000 house would be around $2500 in taxes yearly).
Don't get me wrong, he's a crazy bastard, but he overall did a decent job up here. Douglas is doing a great job, as well, and I'm glad he won governorship again this year, especially with Symington being such an asshat.
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