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In theory what would pay for a sequel to your favorite game?

cliffskicliffski Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Games and Technology
I've been playing company of heroes so much, it just pains me that there isn't a sequel. maybe it's not happening because the original didn't sell enough, or was pirated, or whatever. I can't help but think that if it comes down to money, that there are enough hardcore fans of a game, making a sequel for a 'premium' price could maybe work.

The thing is, 90% of people would take any price over the normal one as being a justification for not buying it or piracy. But for the moment, lets forget that and imagine a theoretical piracy-free and totally rational world where you are prepared to pay for the hours of entertainment you get from a game.

Lets say I'd play 100 hours (minimum!) of Company Of Heroes 2. If I even rate it as worth £0.50 an hour, that's still £50, as opposed to the usual £35.
If I rate entertainment at double that (not an unreasonable guess) then it's worth £100 to me.

if you do the maths, how much is that *never going to happen* sequel to your favourite game worth? I can imagine a time where (if it hadn't been made nice and cheap) I'd have happily paid £100 for Call Of Duty 4. Considering how much fun I got from it, that would be a bargain.
name your price :D

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I did buy the sequel to my favorite game, and the sequel ended up being garbage.

    Don't forget to factor that into your calculations.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    I did buy the sequel to my favorite game, and the sequel ended up being garbage.

    Don't forget to factor that into your calculations.
    Yeah this is what happened to me, and it killed my enthusiasm for the prior game almost completely. Not good.

    But in theory I wouldn't spend more then the normal price for a sequel. I've been burned before..

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    FaffelFaffel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I wouldn't pay more for a sequel. That's stupid. Games already cost more per piece than any main-stream entertainment that I can think of.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd pay a good $30 or so for a new Castlevania on the DS.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also, something you're forgetting is equivalent goods. Let's say I liked Blow Shit Up a whole lot, and got hundreds of hours of play out of it. Now they announce Blow Shit Up 2: This Time It's Personal will have even more stuff, but will cost a hundred dollars, or some other ridiculous price. Well, I'll probably just go for the competing publisher's new title, Explode Things, rather than this overpriced sequel.

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    DJ Cam CamDJ Cam Cam Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd buy that for a dollar.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    They're already making a Beatles game, but let's say they made a similar title based on the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    I would pay $150 for that, with a smile on my face. If it had 50 or so tracks, that's $3 a track, which is an outstanding deal to me.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Hmm.

    Geometry Wars.

    I loved the first Retro Evolved to bits. Then I got Galaxies, even at a higher price, on both the DS and the Wii because I loved it so much.

    Then they made Retro Evolved 2, for the same price as the original.

    I am completely happy with all of this so far.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    No more so then a normal game.

    If a game didn't sell enough, making the sequel cost more isn't going to help it's cause. Some people really don't get how this "profit" thing works :|

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I would pay $20 a month for a starcraft mmo. Easily.

    (Only reason I don't bring up SC2 is because its already announced).

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    I would pay $20 a month for a starcraft mmo. Easily.

    (Only reason I don't bring up SC2 is because its already announced).

    $180, m i rite?

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    NapoleonNapoleon Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd pay $100 for Xenogears 2

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Freespace 3.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go cry.

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    lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, every company would like to charge each customer the very limit of what they would pay for an item. And if they could, probably a lot of games that aren't made now would be.

    But in the real world that doesn't really come into it. The companies are instead trying to maximize their revenue (well profit, but for software the difference is immaterial). To a degree they get around the constraint of having one price for all customers buy having special editions and later releasing budget priced versions.

    To answer the question, to ensure a proper and good sequel to say X-COM or Tie Fighter or Elite, no price could be too high. One would simply rob banks until it could be payed and then enjoy the game until the police caught up to you.

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    VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I got a sequel to my favorite game already.

    My favorite game was Asheron's Call.

    Asheron's Call 2 was horrible.

    Therefore, I'd pay nothing for a sequel to my favorite game. =)

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    PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd pay $200 for an Alpha Centauri 2, or X-com with modern graphics and the exact same gameplay.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh that's not fair mentioning Elite. That's my one weakness.



    Uhh.. what I mean is £40 and not a penny more.

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    darleysam wrote: »
    Oh that's not fair mentioning Elite. That's my one weakness.



    Uhh.. what I mean is £40 and not a penny more.

    David Braben has announced his next game after Outsider is Elite 4.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Since when? I have some top secret insider info on Elite 4, but I was under the impression that nothing has been said about it?

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Last I'd heard it had kind of cropped up on some slide at a Frontier presentation and it gets mentioned every now and then, but nothing truly official.

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    cwapfobrainscwapfobrains Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm pretty sure you'll see Company of Heroes 2 at some point. There is another expansion on the way, and they have been working on Dawn of War 2, a sequel to a game that came out in 2004. If there is still no word by 2010, then maybe you can lose hope. ;)

    Back on topic though, I would pay easily $ 75 for a sequel to Star Wars: Republic Commando. Same goes for a Crimson Skies on 360. And I would definitely pay over 100 dollars for a modern Mechwarrior or X-Wing on PC.

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    VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    cwapfobrains has a good point. Ignoring Asheron's Call, my second favorite game of all time would have to fall upon X-Wing.

    If they made a good, modern version of X-Wing and it kept the spirit of the first game, I would definitely shell out 60 bucks for it, or even as high as 100 if it came in a delicious Limited Edition flavor. If the company told me that they would not release it unless I personally paid them extra money, though, I'd probably take them up on whatever extortion fee they proposed if I could possibly afford it. The world should not be denied X-Wing simply due to my desire to be financially comfortable. =)

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Same goes for a Crimson Skies on 360.

    Have you been following Dark Void, it looks fantastic.

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    BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    $250 for a proper TIE Fighter 2.

    I paid over $150 for Rock Band, and I haven't gotten 1/10 the enjoyment from that that I got from TIE Fighter.

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Although it will probably happen eventually, I actually don't want Baldur's Gate 3. The story's over.

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    GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Since when? I have some top secret insider info on Elite 4, but I was under the impression that nothing has been said about it?

    http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6162140.html
    We will do Elite 4 after Outsider

    EDIT: In-fact wikipedia has a lot more information than I.
    Wikipedia wrote:
    At the 2008 Game Developers Conference in Germany, David Braben hinted that an announcement regarding the game's release would come in 2008. Braben stated that the new version "would certainly need a better interface, or at least one which is easier to use for modern gamers."[9]

    At a recent Develop Conference, Braben stated that Elite 4 technology is almost finished and will be released after "The Outsider" which is due in 2009.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ok, well let me spill the beans.

    I met some guys from Frontier in the London Games Festival VIP bar, and they said - "We can't say anything about the outsider, other than it's going well", then I asked them about elite 4, and they said "we literally can say nothing."

    But then I got them to say "Ok, no code has been laid down yet, but we have been throwing around some pretty serious ideas, and are probably going to start work on it in a little over a year."

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd pay ~$100 for a true sequel to FFT and/or Vagrant Story. I'd love to have a SRPG that fits in at the end of Vagrant Story. VKP units, Riskbreaker elites, more units with guns, etc.

    EDIT: I'd also pay ~$100 for a remastered version of Phantasy Star IV. Updated graphics (still 2-D anime, but a bit more polished), re-recorded music, a few extra dungeons.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Battlezone 3.

    (That's Battlezone the Action RTS hybrid, not the original wireframe game.)

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    ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Be careful what you wish for, sequel-seekers. Let us not forget the horror!
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    That said? Oh God Yes Okami 2 SoTC 2 nom nom one hundred dollars yesplease.

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    FaffelFaffel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Chance wrote: »
    Be careful what you wish for, sequel-seekers. Let us not forget the horror!
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    THE HORROR



    That said? Oh God Yes Okami 2 SoTC 2 nom nom one hundred dollars yesplease.

    But it paved the way to...


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    thejazzmanthejazzman Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I would pay 100 pounds for an excellent sequel to chrono trigger

    I would mention half life but thats still getting sequels

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    Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    company of heroes got an expansion a while ago, and not really that old of a game anyway. relics putting out DOW2 next, but i wouldnt be at all surprised to see a COH sequel in the not too distant future.

    that said pricing sequels higher than regular is a horrible idea on many levels i think. and modern games are too large an undertaking to really work the financed by the fans thing that ive seen some bands do (for example).

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    RestartRestart Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    50 bucks for MegaMan 10 no sweat. Probably even more but I like to believe that I have limits.

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    Luck3ySe7enLuck3ySe7en The ROKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd gladly pay for a Riddick sequel game. Butcher Bay still stands as one of the best first person experiences to date. But i hear theyre making one so maybe they did read my letters... :D

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    rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Apparently it would cost a couple hundred thousand for the sequel I want.
    Megaman Legends

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    FaffelFaffel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd gladly pay for a Riddick sequel game. Butcher Bay still stands as one of the best first person experiences to date. But i hear theyre making one so maybe they did read my letters... :D

    Dark Athena, innit?

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    RestartRestart Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    rayofash wrote: »
    Apparently it would cost a couple hundred thousand for the sequel I want.
    Megaman Legends

    Worth it!

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd gladly pay for a Riddick sequel game. Butcher Bay still stands as one of the best first person experiences to date. But i hear theyre making one so maybe they did read my letters... :D

    I assume you've played The Darkness and also Condemned.

    They both have a bit in common with Butcher Bay.

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    Luck3ySe7enLuck3ySe7en The ROKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    rayofash wrote: »
    Apparently it would cost a couple hundred thousand for the sequel I want.
    Megaman Legends

    I thought the same thing... marry me? :winky:

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