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GTA: Lost and Damned DLC

CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Games and Technology
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2008-11-19-gta-damned_N.htm
The upcoming episode of the video game Grand Theft Auto IV looks to be a wild one.

GTA IV, which was released in April for the Xbox 360 and Sony PlayStation 3, focused on former Eastern European soldier Niko Bellic and his escalating life of crime in the boroughs of Liberty City. This new episode, available Feb. 17 via download exclusively for those who own the Xbox 360 version (no price yet), stars Johnny Klebitz, a member of Liberty City biker gang The Lost.

"Johnny is a very different character than Niko, with a very different background," says Dan Houser, vice president of creative development for Rockstar Games. "I can't go into too much detail on the story, because we try not to give away too much plot before the game is released. But I can say that the story will show you a different side of Liberty City."

The episode, titled The Lost and Damned, requires players to have the full version of the Mature-rated GTA IV (ages 17 and older) and an Xbox Live membership to download. It's likely to carry an M rating, too. (Parents can use the Xbox 360's parental controls to prevent children from accessing inappropriate content.)
In the original game, Niko crossed paths with The Lost several times. This time, Niko has only a bit part, Houser says. "The story is not directly impacted by decisions you took in the main game," he says. But "tons of details and mysteries from the main story get explained, so it will add a lot of color to the main story."

Rockstar Games has been fine-tuning its explorable 3-D virtual worlds since launching its first "sandbox" game with Grand Theft Auto III in 2001.

The new game will let you download more sandbox time. "We feel like we've only scratched the surface in terms of the depth and detail in" GTA IV's mythical Liberty City, says Houser.

Previous games have used downloads to add "new stages, weapons and costumes," says GamePro Media features editor Dave Rudden, "but GTA IV's content will reportedly add hours of gameplay."

Rudden hopes the episode costs $15 or less, but Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter expects a $20 price and says Rockstar could sell 2 million to 3 million downloads. "I see episodic content as a natural progression of the quality of downloadable content."
It sounds like an expansion pack.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    That's an awful title. It made me think that the DLC got canceled.

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    EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yes, of course it's an expansion pack.

    I'm also angry it's been pushed to Feb 18.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    $20?

    jeez

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    Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    YaYa wrote: »
    $20?

    jeez

    Patcher is an idiot though.

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    TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also, what kind of Securities Analyst speculates on the price of downloadable videogame content?

    The kind who lists his Hollywood Stock Exchange account on his resume?

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    lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    That's an awful title. It made me think that the DLC got canceled.

    Hmmm, I was trying to combine GTA, the TV show Lost and Couscous's hatred of DLC into some kind of coherent picture.

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    scootchscootch Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    man, I thought my dreams came true and was going to have an open world zombie infestation.

    who actually gave a shit about the lost in the game?

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    TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    scootch wrote: »
    who actually gave a shit about the lost in the game?

    I think you kill like three of them in the game. They're about as consequential to the plot as the stupid pigeons.

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    ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    If I had a 360 and I'd already 100%'ed GTA IV this summer I'd love to get my paws on this DLC.

    Since I have a PS3 and we just got the trophy patch, it'll be a long-ass time until I've completed this fall's avelanche of awesome titles and am prepared to approach the mountain that is The Key To The City.

    Here's hoping it really adds the 15+ hours they've been touting for your 360 owners.

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    Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Glenn565 wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    $20?

    jeez

    Patcher is an idiot though.

    Depends what day you catch him on. He's pretty consistently solid over at NeoGAF at guessing the monthly sales, and has made some good predictions in the past, but he's not a surefire bet.




    Back to the content: Ugh, this sounds like balls. They'll really have to impress me before I even consider it.

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    ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    scootch wrote: »
    man, I thought my dreams came true and was going to have an open world zombie infestation.

    To be fair, anything + zombie infestation = win.

    Mario + zombies = awesome.
    Sonic + zombies = well, it's Sonic, so awesome-if-it-were-on-the-Mega Drive.
    Lair + zombies = a much, much better game.

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    lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    Glenn565 wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    $20?

    jeez

    Patcher is an idiot though.

    Depends what day you catch him on. He's pretty consistently solid over at NeoGAF at guessing the monthly sales, and has made some good predictions in the past, but he's not a surefire bet.




    Back to the content: Ugh, this sounds like balls. They'll really have to impress me before I even consider it.

    The key to understanding this is that those NPD predictions are not actually predictions since they are about sales that happed at least 2 weeks before the results are announced. So if you had even a few contacts in retail and in the position to know something, you have a good chance of getting close to the right results.

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    Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    Glenn565 wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    $20?

    jeez

    Patcher is an idiot though.

    Depends what day you catch him on. He's pretty consistently solid over at NeoGAF at guessing the monthly sales, and has made some good predictions in the past, but he's not a surefire bet.




    Back to the content: Ugh, this sounds like balls. They'll really have to impress me before I even consider it.

    The key to understanding this is that those NPD predictions are not actually predictions since they are about sales that happed at least 2 weeks before the results are announced. So if you had even a few contacts in retail and in the position to know something, you have a good chance of getting close to the right results.

    Also, this is the same guy who said legions of Zombie PS2 owners would rise up and buy PS3's en masse for almost a year. Look how that turned out.

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    Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd be surprised if it was less than 20 dollars. I dunno why. That was just the price I pictured when I first heard of this. I wonder how big it will be. I was replaying GTA IV last night and actually just finished that mission where you fuck up The Lost after one of them tries to mack Faustin's daughter. The Lost are portrayed as pretty lame in this game, so playing as them doesn't really excite me. I'm sure it'll be cool, though. Februray is really far off, though.

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    WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    February is closer than you think. Yeah, sucks that it's not out tomorrow, but so what. It's coming, and I'll buy it. A little weird that you're not Niko, though.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Considering all the real criminals and gangs you encounter in the game, the Lost just seem like some kids whose parents "like, don't get them, man."

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    HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm more concerned with how many (estimated) hours of content that this "expansion pack" will provide. I wouldn't doubt at all that it'd go for $20 or even more, so there'd better be more than 5 hours of storyline and missions there.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Lost and Damned? Sounds like the people who got shafted buying this game.

    SR2 is much better.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Lost and Damned? Sounds like the people who got shafted buying this game.

    SR2 is much better.

    If you like a buggy mess of a game with hideous graphics and lame missions/story.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yet it is still more fun, really telling about GTA IV.

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    WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Hey look there are two games that are similar and each have positive and negative aspects. Let's argue about them why don't we.

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I thought Niko kicked their ass in that one mission. Why would I want to play as one of them?

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    ruforufo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    Hey look there are two games that are similar and each have positive and negative aspects. Let's argue about them why don't we.

    BLA BLA BLA SR2 IS BETTAR NO GTAIV IS BETTAR NO SAN ANDREAS WAS BETTAR WAIT NO VICE CITY

    While I found the plot in GTA IV wasn't quite as good as some made it out to be, I had a really fun time with it and there were a few poignant moments in there; by the time February rolls around I'd probably be fairly interested in taking another spin through Liberty City.

    I absolutely think it's going to cost at least $20, if not more, so it better be a pretty decent chunk of gameplay; Microsoft is going to want their $100 million back. I'm also absolutely thinking there are things about this they haven't mentioned - Rockstar tends to play things really close to the chest, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some other surprises they haven't mentioned yet.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I loved GTA IV. Will be buying this, no question.

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    HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I am pretty curious to get my hands on this. Frankly I never really cared for Niko; he just never resonated with me as a character. Hopefully this Johhny guy will be more likeable or relateable.

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    Nimble CatNimble Cat Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I never even finished the main storyline, so I probably won't be getting this.

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    Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Tiemler wrote: »
    scootch wrote: »
    who actually gave a shit about the lost in the game?

    I think you kill like three of them in the game. They're about as consequential to the plot as the stupid pigeons.

    Really, they should have created something where you play as one of the pigeons. That would be worth my $20. (Actually, it wouldn't.... I'd sucker someone else into buying it)

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
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    wusoldjrwusoldjr Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm still stuck on Four-Leaf Clover, and haven't touched the game since June. I plan on getting back into it once I beat SR2 and FFA2 and get bored with L4D.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Nimble Cat wrote: »
    I never even finished the main storyline, so I probably won't be getting this.

    I think a lot of people are in this boat. GTA games always run longer than I can stay interested. I'm not saying there should be less content, but I think less of it should be required to complete the main game. Then they could tighten up the story, since the biggest problem with the story is that its stretched out so long to cover all the missions.

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    WetsunWetsun Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Never finished the story either. I think the last thing I did was:
    kill the crooked cop brother dude instead of the worthless brother dude

    Anyone want to tell me how close that is to the end of the game?

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wetsun wrote: »
    Never finished the story either. I think the last thing I did was:
    kill the crooked cop brother dude instead of the worthless brother dude

    Anyone want to tell me how close that is to the end of the game?

    Depending where you're at with the other people, I would say about two thirds of the way through.

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    WetsunWetsun Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well I just skimmed a walkthrough to find exactly what I was doing, and it was

    # 4.25 Liquidize the Assets

    which is pretty close to the end of chapter 4(/5), and 5 looks relatively short. Maybe I'll finish it off after all.

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Man, I read that whole thing, read this thread, beat GTA4 months ago ... and I still can't remember who The Lost were.

    The Lost? They were a gang?

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    KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I doubt this will ever come to the PS3, but I'd be willing to wager we'll see a PC release at some point.

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    RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, a biker gang. Niko meets one of them a few times throughout the game. One at a party thrown by the drug dealer woman, again when handling diamonds at the museum and again after the garbage truck mission. I think.

    Dang I want to play through this again.

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    WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Prediction: There will be a mission called 'Limbo of the Lost'.

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I wasn't even compelled to finish the game, it got so dry. I doubt I'd be interested in this DLC even if I had a 360. I'll probably play through again now that the game has trophies just to be a whore and finally beat it, but I think by the time I'm done with that I'll be so furious at the godawful car handling I'll never want to play it again.

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    RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    JAEF wrote: »
    I wasn't even compelled to finish the game, it got so dry. I doubt I'd be interested in this DLC even if I had a 360. I'll probably play through again now that the game has trophies just to be a whore and finally beat it, but I think by the time I'm done with that I'll be so furious at the godawful car handling I'll never want to play it again.

    That's crazy.

    You're crazy.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The... car handling was great. That's not even subjective, it's a scientifically proven law.

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