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Help me gain weight.

Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
edited November 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
For as long as I can remember, I've had the metabolism of a fucking rabbit/jackRussellTerrier/insertOtherCrazyStereotypicallyEnergeticAnimalHere. You'd think this would be awesome, and I know a fuckload of people would die for such a metabolism.. but for me, it's almost a curse.

I'm a 20 years old, 5'7", and I weigh 115.

And I'm not lanky... not skinny, either..... but bony, yes that might describe it. Maybe just.... I dunno... put it this way:

I can EASILY wrap my thumb and forefinger around my wrists, with room to spare. The bottom of my ribcage visibly sticks out. I just have zero fat. And I eat. You're damn right I eat. Four meals a day often. I exercise every day. Not at the gym, though I'm beginning to, but I do pushups, and crunches, and hell, I walk everywhere; I'm a university student without a car.

I had a bunch of epiphanies when I came to university, and one was that I needed to increase my calorie intake to finally kick the shit outta this problem... Eating fattier foods, heavier foods, whatever the fuck looks like it'll gain me some weight. So, for the last three weeks I've been eating two eggs, heapings of bacon, homefries, and a cinammon roll every day for breakfast, and two very full lunches and suppers. Often pizza, pasta with lots of meat and cheese, or hamburgers, with fries or onion rings.

It's not enough. Not only is it not enough, it's not... AT ALL even. Like, I feel my body is just laughing at me, compensating for it, and laughing some more. And so I've barely gained anything at all. It seems that whatever I throw at it, my body can take.

Now, I've been seeing this girl for a week, and I like her, and she kinda likes me. But I know, for sure, because she told me to my face, that I kinda creep her out sometimes, because I'm too damn lean. So yeah, that's the breaking point. It's time to kick it into overdrive, and give the big fuck you to my metabolism, and o' great H/A forumers, this is where you come in.

The idea is not to get fat, not to get unhealthy, and not to just build muscle. Just... weight... up... as fast as possible. And the keep it there.

So... help. Advice? Diets? Specific exercise routines? Foods? Supplements? Anything?

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Get your thyroid levels checked.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Don't just eat greasy shit, you'll get all sallow-skinned and heart-conditioney. Unpleasant. My roommate's had some success with those bodybuilders' protein powders and lots of gym time, but I wonder about what scarfing down that much raw protein does to your kidneys. He's up every night at 3am drinking litres of water :?

    You may just have to wait to age a bit, we all slow down gradually. Worth going to see a nutritionist to plan something that will work with your body though, and make sure you don't have anything actually wrong with you. Your campus should have one.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Thyroid is fine. I eat lots of protein.

    I've had various tests done before for different reasons, and they all came out fine. I have no medical conditions, my stress levels, blood, etc. are all fine.

    Practically, scientifically, theoretically, I'm completely, perfectly healthy.

    And I am healthy.

    I'm just.... I mean, it really is that my metabolism just takes everything I can throw at it, know what I mean? I'm healthy, I'm just TOO healthy, and that doesn't give me enough wiggle room to increase my weight.

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You're still better off not eating the fatty gross shit. However, I don't have more advice than to follow The Cat's advice. It's the job of a nutritionist to figure this shit out, and you're probably paying for Uni healthcare somewhere in your fees anyway. I know it was a bitch to opt out of mine back in my day. Check it out; it can't hurt.

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  • beatbeat Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    hell eat rice? i eat about... 4x the rice of a normal person and well im a 5'11 230 lb asian guy, you could try it shouldnt be too hard take a bite of something and stuff your mouth full of rice and continue until full

    beat on
  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    If you continue to eat only disgustingly fatty foods you may not ever gain weight (whatever your story is), but you will most definitely increase your body fat percentage, cholesterol levels, and greatly increase your risk of poor health and heart conditions.


    Genetically skinny people need to eat healthy too, they just don't get to see the effects of it when they don't.

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  • A-RodA-Rod Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I think you can talk to your doctor about getting you a good diet to stick to.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Just lift weights. If you build adequate muscle, being extremely lean will look good. Lean can be like a starving Ethiopian, or like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. One type of lean will gross girls out, while the other kind will drive them crazy. If you hit the weightroom, you should be the good kind of lean.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hmm, how should I explain -- I've tried both types of eating. The eating-lots-of-decently-healthy-shit got me nowhere. So the backup was eating lots of plain fatty foods too, regardless of healthiness.

    And yes, I'm aware that it's a bad idea even in thin people, and that everyone should eat healthy. I did it to try and overload my metabolism, to jump start it, or something. Y'know, it's just to try SOMETHING.

    And still, my body totally takes it.

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  • DaveTheWaveDaveTheWave Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You're just one of those bastards who can eat whatever the fuck, however much the fuck and never gain any weight. I am so jealous of your type, because I LOVE EATING. I have a friend who is just like you, a twig, eats 4x as much as me and never puts on a kilo. He recently caught glandular fever, and has spent the last 2 months in bed being pumped full of delicious food by his girlfriend. He used to be a beanpole, now he has a little bit of stomach happening (he reckons he's gained 10kg), and this is after 2 months of non-stop eating and absolutely zero movement.

    Maybe that's what it will take? Either way, I don't think you should force your body into doing something it obviously doesn't want to do.

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  • ALockslyALocksly Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    My Brother!,... and yea do I call you my kin as we are ONE and the same. I too, do eat like a horse and yet no bulk do I gain from it. A soldier I became and weights I have lifted,... though stronger and more defined I grew, still the bulging mass eluded me. I now stand at eight and twenty years with no sign of my metabolism slowing, yea, I have a good twenty pounds on my father before me so it looks like I'm in it for the long haul. Yours may yet slow, time shall be the judge, but do not clog yourself with grease and fat. Stick to lean meats and veggies and perhaps some some high-weight, low repetition lifts. And heed the wise words of those who came before me.

    DJ-99 wrote:
    Just lift weights. If you build adequate muscle, being extremely lean will look good. Lean can be like a starving Ethiopian, or like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. One type of lean will gross girls out, while the other kind will drive them crazy. If you hit the weightroom, you should be the good kind of lean.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    how many calories are you eating a day?

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  • KevarKevar regular
    edited November 2006
    Sliver wrote:
    how many calories are you eating a day?
    This is important to know.

    I was in a similar situation once. Anorexia through intentional starvation, which was totally unnecessary with my metabolism. When I hit 80 pounds and realized how much I was fucking up my body, I saw a nutritionist and had to eat like 4,000 calories a day to gain weight. And no junk food. That's all healthy stuff, which usually has less calories. It made me sick of eating, but eventually I got up to 110 (I'm 5'2 btw) and that's where I am now.

    Seeing a nutritionist is definitely the easiest route to go. Start eating a lot every day then write down what you eat. Write down how many calories all of that food has. Monitor your weight gain and loss every day, do this for maybe a week or two. It'll become easy because you basically eat a lot of the same food and won't have to look up the calorie count every time. Take in the results when you go to see said nutritionist. This will help them out a lot, and they'll know exactly what to do.

    Edit: Oh, and lift weights like a madman. Seriously, you're gonna look hot if you work out while eating enough healthy food to gain weight from it. Tell the nutritionist you're going to be exercising a lot so they can give some advice there.

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  • cocheseisdeadcocheseisdead Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You have to eat. I don't just eat what you think is good, or what you think is fatty, or what you think is a lot. You have to eat with focus.

    Start a nutrition log and write down everything you actually eat and when you eat it for the duration of a week. Do not skip in the diary and do not overestimate. Be as precise as you can and present all of this information to a nutritionist. (edit:beaten. sorry for the repeat)

    It sounds as though you will respond well to 'hardgainer' routines which basically involve lifting heavy compound sets, but briefly, and only twice a week. Do some research, consult with your nutritionist and go from there.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    btw, at 18 I was also 115 pounds. Only I was 5'11. Genetics probably had something to do with it. my dad was 6 feet tall and 115 when he got married at 22.

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  • BoredomBoredom Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I have the same problem, but I accepted that I can't do much more about it than I'm doing now. I'm 21, 5'8.5 and i weigh 120 lbs, and like you, I tried healthy and unhealthy diets, and exercise, but nothing really worked. I saw a doctor for this, and supposedly I'm a late bloomer and I'm still growing.

    It's likely that you still have the metabolism of a younger person; when puberty ends (can be up to age 25 for men) you stop getting taller and instead get wider. I know this is the case for me because I've gotten a bit taller this year, so I'm going to keep eating healthy and just wait it out for a few more years.

    So The Cat's right, your metabolism should slow down as you get older; just keep at it and don't stop whatever you're doing, it'll all catch up with you I think (which applies for unhealthy eating as well).

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  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm 6'6" and I default at 170 pounds. The only way I can gain weight and keep it on is to work out a lot.

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  • DockenDocken Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Go to the gym three times a week for 1 hour, doing heavy weights (so that when you leave your are shaking).

    Take a lean gain protein supplement, intaking about 200 grams of protein a day.

    I don't care how fast your metabolism is, you will pack on the kilos doing that.

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  • Cptn PantsCptn Pants Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Recoil42 wrote:
    I'm a 20 years old, 5'7", and I weigh 115.

    And I'm not lanky... not skinny, either..... but bony, yes that might describe it.

    I feel your pain, I'm 6'4" and I'm only 119Lbs. I too have the visable rib cage and pokey bones. Good luck.

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  • GiantRoboGiantRobo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm 5'8" or so when I last checked, and I weigh around 120 and you can see my bones on my upper body. But then again I'm also extremely malnourished. :|

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I was the same when I was younger. I couldn't put on any weight no matter what I ate. Around the age of 25 my metabolism started to change from having modified my diet and weight lifting, and it became really easy to put on weight. I put on ~20lbs of muscle in about 5 months compared to 5-8lbs the prior year, though part of it might have been finding a workout routine that actually worked for me. Your metabolism will slow down eventually so you might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I hate you. I'm 6'5, 230lbs. I'm not fat, but I like to say I'm chubbish. I have body fat, and I could get rid of it if I went to the gym 6 days a week instead of 4.

    I had a roommate just like you, and he went the greasy food route. He never gained weight, but he did gain in cholesterol.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2006
    If you're perfectly healthy, and it's just an aesthetic thing, I strongly encourage you to not worry about it, rather than fuck around with your diet. Eat healthy, exercise, and if you're skinny, you're skinny. I was a twig through high school and college, too. I'm not 31 and could stand to lose about 10 lbs.

    If a girl you're seeing is creeped out by your body, that's her problem. If she's worth while, she'll get over it. If she leaves you for that, she's shallow and you don't need her. Your body is probably just fine the way it is.

    In the meantime, just wear clothes that don't accentuate your skinniness.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I am now 28 and I'm finally gaining weight (5'11" and now at 160lbs.) on a decent diet and decent exercise. I have the same body type as you.

    This is how it works: you want mass, you need to do strength training. My first year in the marines started at 120lbs. and then I lifted for a full year, 3 times a week (more when I could) and drank water like a mo-fo. Twelve months later, I was 175 lbs. and looked pretty damn good. Then I lost it all when I got sick, and now I'm back up to a decent weight. AFTER 7 YEARS.

    This metabolism you have is actually being sped up by the number of meals per day that you eat; your body doesn't have to hold onto the extra content, so it sheds the potential mass you could be gaining. Try eating three squares (healthy food) and weight training. I might recommend that you start with resistance training to build muscle tone and endurance; lift on your odd week and then tone on the even weeks. You'll vary activity and be motivated to work out because it's not boring.

    And for God's sake, don't forget to stretch.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I still wouldn't resign Recoil to the fate of skinny bastard until he posts his workout, activity level, and calorie intake.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Sliver wrote:
    I still wouldn't resign Recoil to the fate of skinny bastard until he posts his workout, activity level, and calorie intake.

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  • amarygmaamarygma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Definitely work out. Eat a lot of healthy food, you can try the weight gaining powders if you like, but just eating probably the loads of food you're doing now will work.

    I would do a serious amount of lifting. If you hate being the skinny guy at the gym, all you really need is some free weights and maybe a bench to do EVERYTHING. I would recommend the good ol' terminator's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. Don't do high numbers of reps, but go for strength.

    I'm 5'4 and currently about 145. I look pretty much the same when I'm 130. Boys you are very lucky that condoms don't make you get fat like the Pill does. I used to lift weights daily. Now I don't have the time.

    Don't worry about girls. Just make it so that it feels good to be in your body. Girls are attracted to guys that are happy being who they are (which is why the cocky a$$hole frat boy, or the big fat ugly dude can still get the girl). If you are happy with life and let attraction bring you together you will be better off than if you just win over someone with a sexy bod. You're also more likely to get a pleasant, nice, and interesting girl than some sort of slutty succubus who will just rape you of your time, money, and patience, then cheats on you. Good luck!

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  • stixs4321stixs4321 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Recoil42 wrote:
    I can EASILY wrap my thumb and forefinger around my wrists, with room to spare. The bottom of my ribcage visibly sticks out. I just have zero fat. And I eat. You're damn right I eat. Four meals a day often. I exercise every day. Not at the gym, though I'm beginning to, but I do pushups, and crunches, and hell, I walk everywhere; I'm a university student without a car.

    I had a bunch of epiphanies when I came to university, and one was that I needed to increase my calorie intake to finally kick the shit outta this problem... Eating fattier foods, heavier foods, whatever the fuck looks like it'll gain me some weight. So, for the last three weeks I've been eating two eggs, heapings of bacon, homefries, and a cinammon roll every day for breakfast, and two very full lunches and suppers. Often pizza, pasta with lots of meat and cheese, or hamburgers, with fries or onion rings.
    You mention you can wrap your thumb and forefinger around your wrist but thats a shitty ass test. You can gain a shit load of weight but your wrists aren't going to grow, you got a small frame or possibly just big ass hands for your frame? You WALK everywhere, so how much walking is that in the end? is it 45mins to school and 30mins walking between classes and 45mins home again? Push-ups and crunches aren't going to do much for supporting you to build muscle or gain lean mass so head over to the gym and start doing some weight training.

    The rule is if your not gaining weight you need to eat more usually so eat more. Mixed nuts are a great source or any type of nut as its high calorie so start snacking on that constently throughout the day. Weight gainer shakes are garbage usually but try finding one thats 2000 calories a shake and drink it three times a day upon all that food you eat. Also be careful about eating junk constantly because you could be stirring up diseases in your body like diabetes if your family is prone to getting it.

    Care to list how much of these foods you eat in a day(ie: 3hamburgers for dinner with a pound of fries)? Also do you ever skip a meal or is this it everyday of the week including weekends?

    Edit: I used to think I ate alot myself when really young but thats because I'd barely eat anything and then one meal I'd eat a ton. Even when I do eat "alot" food I know am not eating anywhere near to gain weight with the amount of walking I do and active job but am not trying to gain weight at the moment.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You know, a lot of the advice here would be good, but to be honest, I'm surprised that your doctor hasn't said anything (I'm assuming you've seen doctor recently since you said your thyroid was fine). You sound like you are really underweight, which would raise some flags with most doctors.

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  • leftrightleftright Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Aplogies if some of the following has been said but i didn't read it all

    I have the same problem, sort of, I don't really want to gain weight but I'm 17 5'10 and i weigh 128. I'm plenty strong for my size and i work out a lot but i need to stay around 130 pounds for sports.

    As for gaining some weight...a dishonest person might u

    Muscle weighs more than fat, go for 6 meals a day high in protein, eat every 3 hours, try and lift some weights as that will grow muscle faster than bodyweight exercises. Eat, eat and eat some more.


    edit: I'm not dumb, just lazy

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    leftright wrote:
    Aplogies if some of the following has been said but i didn't read it all

    I have the same problem, sort of, I don't really want to gain weight but I'm 17 5'10 and i weigh 128. I'm plenty strong for my size and i work out a lot but i need to stay around 130 pounds for sports.

    As for gaining some weight...a dishonest person might

    Muscle weighs more than fat, go for 6 meals a day high in protein, eat every 3 hours, try and lift some weights as that will grow muscle faster than bodyweight exercises. Eat, eat and eat some more.
    And a smart person might read and follow the rules.

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  • KingMooKingMoo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    pizza pockets and world of warcraft are your friend

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    KingMoo wrote:
    pizza pockets and world of warcraft are your friend
    Two down.

    Are we gonna go for a triple in this thread? My very first threefer?

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  • leftrightleftright Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    you are taking up space by posting how many people you've jailed, i didn't have time to read a page and half of what was already written, my information was relevant, yours isn't.


    Other ways to get in trouble while replying to a thread:

    *Not reading the first fucking post before giving advice.

    I did that, note how my post was on topic and gave him advice, i didn't read ALL of the thread, just the first and most recent post.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    leftright wrote:
    you are taking up space by posting how many people you've jailed, i didn't have time to read a page and half of what was already written, my information was relevant, yours isn't.


    Other ways to get in trouble while replying to a thread:

    *Not reading the first fucking post before giving advice.

    I did that, note how my post was on topic and gave him advice, i didn't read ALL of the thread, just the first and most recent post.
    Oh, for fuck's sake.

    Take a couple days off. When you figure out that the reason I banned you was because you told him to download a book instead of buying it, and that if you want to bitch about a mod decision, you do it via PM, you're welcome back.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    If you're going to load up on Protein eat less fatty greasy proteins. Peanut Butter, Fish and Whey Protien shakes are your friends.

    Be sure to add in some excercise or you'll jsut get fat

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  • coma whitecoma white Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    my friend gained ten pounds apparently last week by drinking raw eggs

    but uhh he's a fucking weirdo so you might not want to try that

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    LaOs wrote:
    You're still better off not eating the fatty gross shit. However, I don't have more advice than to follow The Cat's advice. It's the job of a nutritionist to figure this shit out, and you're probably paying for Uni healthcare somewhere in your fees anyway. I know it was a bitch to opt out of mine back in my day. Check it out; it can't hurt.

    I go to the same uni as Recoil. We do, in fact, get health insurance.

    recoil: clinic's on the top floor of the student center, near the student union office

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Cptn Pants wrote:
    Recoil42 wrote:
    I'm a 20 years old, 5'7", and I weigh 115.

    And I'm not lanky... not skinny, either..... but bony, yes that might describe it.

    I feel your pain, I'm 6'4" and I'm only 119Lbs. I too have the visable rib cage and pokey bones. Good luck.
    Jesus Holy fucking Christ, I'm 6'5", can see the bottom of my rib cage as well as the tops of my pelvic bones, and I'm 90 pounds heavier than you. Fuuuck.

    As for Recoil, look into seriously starting some weight routines. On a thinner person, they have a tendency to end up with a net increase in weight over time. But take it from someone who recently lost a lot of weight: change will be slow if it's going to be permanent. If you gain twenty pounds in two weeks, you're going to see it go away the moment you trip up on your routine.

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  • Scott_CameronScott_Cameron Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Recoil42 wrote:
    For as long as I can remember, I've had the metabolism of a fucking rabbit/jackRussellTerrier/insertOtherCrazyStereotypicallyEnergeticAnimalHere. You'd think this would be awesome, and I know a fuckload of people would die for such a metabolism.. but for me, it's almost a curse.

    I'm a 20 years old, 5'7", and I weigh 115.

    And I'm not lanky... not skinny, either..... but bony, yes that might describe it. Maybe just.... I dunno... put it this way:

    I can EASILY wrap my thumb and forefinger around my wrists, with room to spare. The bottom of my ribcage visibly sticks out. I just have zero fat. And I eat. You're damn right I eat. Four meals a day often. I exercise every day.

    Sorry to bump an old thread, but high-freaking-five, Recoil. I'm 5'7", 105, and 19 years old. I have a tiny bit of fat around my waist, but like you, I'm pretty boney all over apart from that. I've tried weight training, but I'm not really getting anywhere. I've talked to my Dad (5'8") about it, and he weighed about 140 at my age. My metabolism hasn't always been like this, though; I was a little chubby until I hit 12 years old, and then I kind of... uh... went semi-anorexic (bad time to do so, I know).

    I commute everyday to my University, and walk a good 40-60 minutes worth. On an average day, I eat (seems very specific, but I'm a little OCD and like to follow a schedule :P) :

    - Bowl of cereal / toast
    - Babybel Light
    - Pancake
    - A banana or two
    - Ham/Turkey/Chicken roll
    - Cooked chicken with corn and potatoes / cooked fish with potatoes
    - Small tub of Yogurt
    - Another bowl of cereal / toast for supper, usually
    - Some food in-between that could be classified junk, but not very often

    Also, I wish I could be taller. Maybe two or three inches, but it's unlikely given my age now.

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