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Are we human, or are we [DOODLE]?

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    flower-web.jpg

    Not posting this in my thread because it's another overworked doodle, and because it's a pretty blatant (and far inferior) copy of a picture on the interweb, but I suppose it's kind of sort of representative of my continuing struggle with the nib pen. Still not sure about hatching and technique and all that (and you notice how I forgot about line width on that back petal), but ultimately, I think that may be something I'll have to find a class on, since I'm not a very good (self-)teacher.

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    LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    huh I was taking about copying a photo, it's something I never want to do even in the forumer's portraits I would alter the position of the face or remove some things and add additional things to it.

    Edit: but I do avoid photo's I prefer using reference with either a Mirror if myself or real life reference. I look at photos when it's like I need to see what a moose looks like. Because I really need to start getting use to understanding depth more and photo's take that part away.

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    MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Time for new doodle thread, Synthetic, you a winner. Now come up with a good name and remember, you are being judged.

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    TheMorningStarTheMorningStar Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Alright, here is an update after another 2 hours:
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    Professor said I have to finish it by Tuesday so they can photograph it to put in the college's magazine, so I'm pretty happy about that!

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    winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thats looking pretty cool. What colour pallet are you using?

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    TheMorningStarTheMorningStar Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ivory black, titanium white, and burnt umber

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I think that doing stuff from reference can be useful.

    Especially if someone wants to pay you a bunch of money to do a painting of Little Walter and Little Walter has been dead for 41 years.

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    BetelgeuseBetelgeuse Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you were a real artist you would be able to do it all from memory, ChicoBlue.

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    SublimusSublimus Artist. nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    51? THIS IS OUT OF HAND!

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    LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    No, it is in hand

    Edit: .... Wait

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    anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    I think that doing stuff from reference can be useful.

    Especially if someone wants to pay you a bunch of money to do a painting of Little Walter and Little Walter has been dead for 41 years.

    That man is doing some intense harmonicaing.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    reference can be useful but it's a bad idea to copy straight from photos - the lens flattens and distorts the face imperceptibly, so that if you just copy it, your drawing looks like a photograph with less detail, while if you interpret it artistically it'll pop.

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    GurtPerkGurtPerk Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    dump de dump


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    Girl friend of mine asked if I could draw a cute little girl with a frog because I draw too many robots and creepy things. This is my best attempt at this "cute" business.
    jezebelbodycompcopy02.jpg

    Concept for my class, still thumbnailing and doing comps on her hair, costume, and hat. The house style I chose was The Incredibles which I'm having a lot of fun doing. I rarely draw a lot of women so this is excellent practice.

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    winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I think people over analyse art. If you're going to do an illustration (for an editorial magazine) of Obama and Bush in a fist fight in the oval office, i'm pretty sure you;re going to need reference photos. you cant draw that shit from nothing. All the best illustrators use reference photos. They dont 'directly' copy them, but a lot of them spend so much time setting up lighting and composition of their photographs so that they can produce the best, realistic image possible.

    Just some doodle concepts i did

    6p6w4x.jpg

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The memory is notoriously unreliable.

    People draw from references because they want it to look RIGHT, and that doesn't make their art any less worthy of respect.

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    BetelgeuseBetelgeuse Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    NEVER USE A PHOTO BECAUSE THEY ARE FLAT AND YOU WILL NEVER BE A GOOD ARTIST IF YOU USE PHOTOS!!

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    So wait, if the hierarchy goes tracing < photos < life < memory < imagination, it seems the logical conclusion would be that the purest form of art would be concept art, wouldn't it?

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    srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    if it's good

    MAN WHAT IS THIS NEW LAND THAT I HAVE DISCOVERED?! PAGE 51!!! I'VE ALWAYS HEAR TELL OF ITS EXISTENCE, BUT NEVER DID I TRUST THAT I WOULD OWN ITS GLORY IN MY PRESENCE. SURELY THE END DAYS ARE NIGH.

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    BRO LET ME GET REAL WITH YOU AND SAY THAT MY FINGERS ARE PREPPED AND HOT LIKE THE SURFACE OF THE SUN TO BRING RADICAL BEATS SO SMOOTH THE SHIT WILL BE MEDICINAL-GRADE TRIPNASTY MAKING ALL BRAINWAVES ROLL ON THE SURFACE OF A BALLS-FEISTY NEURAL RAINBOW CRACKA-LACKIN' YOUR PERCEPTION OF THE HERE-NOW SPACE-TIME SITUATION THAT ALL OF LIFE BE JAMMED UP IN THROUGH THE UNIVERSAL FLOW BEATS
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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    well, crawdaddio, that's what the abstract expressionists thought

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    I was more thinking of the concept artists of the...80s? The abstract expressionists were still "tied down" to the notion of expressing concepts visually.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    what?

    ....what?

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    LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    orikashiajikakmfklamfa is a squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiid

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Sorry, conceptual artists.

    EDIT: And I was also about a decade off; trusty never-wrong Wikipedia cites the "first wave" lasting from '67 to '78.

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    BetelgeuseBetelgeuse Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Conceptual art is the worst kind of art! Augh!

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    i'm still hung up on the idea that modern artists don't convey concepts visually

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    BetelgeuseBetelgeuse Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Just let it go, man. Let it go with your art.

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    LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I am so confused what is happening.

    Edit: wait I think this entire argument was my fault

    Edit again: well actually it started with a misunderstanding of what I said. WHATEVER that happens all the timeee

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Well, some of them do...personally, I can respect the line of reasoning conceptual art philosophy takes, but it's not my favorite brand, either. I was mainly noting that a hierarchy of that sort places value on increased detachment from the world outside the artist's mind, and so by that model, the highest form of art would logically be one in which there's no reliance on visual cues of any kind.

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    crawdaddio wrote: »
    Well, some of them do...personally, I can respect the line of reasoning conceptual art philosophy takes, but it's not my favorite brand, either. I was mainly noting that a hierarchy of that sort places value on increased detachment from the world outside the artist's mind, and so by that model, the highest form of art would logically be one in which there's no reliance on visual cues of any kind.

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    crawdaddiocrawdaddio Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Frame that one up, I'll take it! Genius!

    EDIT: Though I would prefer you didn't represent it visually, man; it's kind of a crutch...

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    GurtPerkGurtPerk Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Not enough doodles, people.

    jezebelbodycomp02copy.jpg

    Part of the same concept design. Pick your favorite barbie doll!

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    winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    GurtPerk wrote: »
    Pick your favorite barbie doll!


    I like the second one.

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    misosoupmisosoup Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    52?! this is madness

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The face reminds me of Mirage from the Incredibles.

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Can I make the new thread? I want to call it "Simply, [DOODLE] ".

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    TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Call it "Doodle thread".

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    GurtPerkGurtPerk Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    TheBog wrote: »
    Call it "Doodle thread".

    original thread's original.

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