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How cheesy will the 00's look?
Sam
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It is inevitable for the present to feel like the culmination of all progress/progressiveness in society, particularly when technology develops rapidly as it is today.
What is this decade going to look like in a time capsule once we're a little bit removed though? The advent of reality tv on a huge scale, the level of political discourse, and the perhaps most rapidly fermenting, popular music. We are the decade of big bass crunk, and sundry other market flooding subgenres of hip-hop produced with bargain bin beats, because studios wanted to pay for neither good producers nor samples. The death of "rock" and "alternative" continues for the most part, with most bands that have a conception of what art is getting their start on indie labels and either making it huge (The Strokes) or forever playing on the college town circuit.
I still think the 2000's has had better music overall than decades before, simply because there is that much more music out there from different parts of the world than before. The flipside to this is we're seeing the worst saturation in pretty much every "genre" (a word that's becoming increasingly vague) than ever before, quantitatively speaking.
It's also been a decade that (perhaps inevitably due to the huge media access breakthroughs as well as an ever expanding body of pop culture media) has had an obsession with decades past. The nostalgia industry in all its aspects, the countless reunions of bands from various decades, plumbing the depths of obscurity for film franchises, etc.
The relative novelty of internet self expression. I can see aspects that looking ridiculous in the next 10 years. Especially the way most people express themselves on uh, theirspace.
Or am I wasting my time pondering this stuff now?
What is this decade going to look like in a time capsule once we're a little bit removed though? The advent of reality tv on a huge scale, the level of political discourse, and the perhaps most rapidly fermenting, popular music. We are the decade of big bass crunk, and sundry other market flooding subgenres of hip-hop produced with bargain bin beats, because studios wanted to pay for neither good producers nor samples. The death of "rock" and "alternative" continues for the most part, with most bands that have a conception of what art is getting their start on indie labels and either making it huge (The Strokes) or forever playing on the college town circuit.
I still think the 2000's has had better music overall than decades before, simply because there is that much more music out there from different parts of the world than before. The flipside to this is we're seeing the worst saturation in pretty much every "genre" (a word that's becoming increasingly vague) than ever before, quantitatively speaking.
It's also been a decade that (perhaps inevitably due to the huge media access breakthroughs as well as an ever expanding body of pop culture media) has had an obsession with decades past. The nostalgia industry in all its aspects, the countless reunions of bands from various decades, plumbing the depths of obscurity for film franchises, etc.
The relative novelty of internet self expression. I can see aspects that looking ridiculous in the next 10 years. Especially the way most people express themselves on uh, theirspace.
Or am I wasting my time pondering this stuff now?
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So shiny!
And then one word hit me: "emo." Yeah, we'll be hearing Fallout Boy jokes for the next 30 years.
Alternatively: torn, tattered, frayed, and old looking.
Plus they're gonna laugh at the scene kids.
or maybe i'm confused as to the degree of irony removed here
4chan is going to be in history books and studied by people in the future.
I don't really care if people look back at us in 50 years and laugh a little. A lot of it is pretty ridiculous, but a lot about how media is created and distributed is changing. More rapidly than it has in decades. They won't think too harshly of us.
But anthropologist hundreds of years from now are going to find 4chan. I can't sleep when I think about that.
wait, I though ironic t-shirts went out with the 90s, and people were only wearing them in a form of meta-irony.
the 90's also had the super-saggy pants. And long ass chains on pants.
The equivalent of that this decade is the really expensive looking non-athletic tracksuits that look like they're made of velvet. Makes me think of the "ensconced in velvet" bit from seinfeld.
i think it's an awesome cheese-tid-bit that she sprang forth into everyone's radar from the loins of the man who made achy breaky heart.
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/2/20652/24_2007/Claire-Danes.jpg
Yeah, but for the first couple of years it was all about the future!
Everything was super glossy with lots of razzle dazzle. Everything was millennium-ized.
They all looked like they needed an epi-pen.
Always. Done. With. Periods.
(seriously, has anyone noticed that? Every freaking company motto and ad line.)
Also the advent of YouTube. Telegraph -> Telephone -> Radio -> TV -> YouTube
"Alternative" music has been dead for years now, in the sense that it has been coopted by big media as soon as it hit the radio. I don't think that what we think of as "alternative" was ever NOT a big media phenomenon. It's alive in the same form, ie Nickelback (their new single sounds like a Tiffany song with hormone therapy), and Seether and various other catchy, homogenous, gravelly pap. The death of rock as far as I'm concerned is a marketing ploy that allows a guitar band to grace a magazine cover every few years under the headline "rock is back!" It's never ACTUALLY dead and you don't need to spend more than 2 days in any big city music bar to realize it. Rap had just as many bargain bin beats in the 90s, but yeah diverse subgenres are definitely a reality (whatever happened to hyphy?).
I don't think we're particularly unique in our obsession with decades past. "Retro" was a huge buzzword in the 90s, people were buying bellbottoms/flares/john lennon glasses/tie-dye at much greater rates than they are now.
The things we'll laugh at ourselves about, well, I think we were sort of laughing about it as we were doing it-- trucker hats come to mind.
I think narcissism is on the upswing, I don't think we've reached saturation w/reality tv, I think internet self-expression will become even more amplified and artificial as more people perfect taking pictures of themselves at flattering angles and presenting the ideal (and not real) version of themselves.
Analyzing a decade is a little bizarre and arbitrary because cultural phenomena don't move in 10 year intervals, as is me talking about things that "we" do but it's still fun.
\/\/\/\/\/\/ Obviously the post-2000 years will be seen as when music really changed and a lot of genres, like alternative, electronic, etc. really gained much from it and came into their own during these past few years.
I am actually thinking about becoming an anthropologist for just that reason. I could build a career off of that.
We will be the age of tiny gadgets and big HDTVs
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Then fifty years from now when we're ready to retire "discover" them in our basement. Make grad students sift through all the shock images.
Edit: I seem to have answered Couscous's question with this post as well.
Assholes will still be rickrolling people hundreds of years into the future.
Shock images can be evidence of the fact that the place was a hyperconcentrated troll pit (at least /b/). I could then work off of what that means, and how that at least partially metastasized, and why this is important.
I'm predicting the future here, but I think that there will be an extensive analysis of that slice of internet subculture, especially as it becomes more and more important (at the very least, the increasing importance of open source and the continuing march of internet media into the mainstream culture, which will allow 4chan to move close enough to the mainstream to at least be identified (and that's not even mentioning stuff like 4chan raids on second life & company, which will most likely become progressively more important over time themselves)).
Rickrolling has already gone the way of shock images, something new is coming up no doubt
You're vastly overstating the importance of an anonymous picture board
At best it may be seen as a small, fringe part of the web trend we're in right now. Things like social networking and web 2.0 are going to be the main topic in "future" discussions when discussing internet culture
Has rickrolling combined with lemon party and lolcats been done yet?
People will troll these boards.
Other people will wonder why this happens, and what are some extreme examples of this. 4chan is an excellent extreme example.
But no one really cares about trolling, it doesn't really have that big of an effect. It's not going to be something that people look back on and go "Ah the early 2000s, where the internet culture was prevalent with passive aggressive attempts at inciting hateful or knee-jerk responses."
Maybe at best it will be examined by some psychology student in his thesis paper.
Also, this is when computing, the internet, and information technology started to truly evolve and be applied. The 90's was when it was growing and getting footholds into a lot of new doors, now it's inside and evolving. The 90's was the invention of the steam engine. Now we have paddle boats and locomotives.
Reality TV, iEverything, the dumbing down of the media (especially cable news, but the media in general), rap, etc. It's both comforting and discouraging to realize that back in the 80s, some guy was probably sitting around complaining about how future generations were going to look at his era as all hair metal and everything being cheesy and over the top.
You don't like saying 'aught eight/nine?
I know somebody who has a bad habit of saying he's in the class of oh-twelve.
Our politics and media were moronic. Our fashion was nondescript, at best. Our best musicians and filmmakers seemed played out and there were so many up and comers that sort of blended into a fog. Make a top 10 list of the best movies, books, songs, fashion trends, gadgets, etc. from the 00s and compare it to similar lists for the past 50 years. It's been a weak decade culturally speaking.
The important things that happened in technology had their roots in the 90s and won't come to complete fruition until the next decade, at least. It started out with a bang - the 21st century has arrived! - and then sort of fizzled.
Like every decade, there's a lot of great stuff for people to rediscover and reassess, but I don't think we'll have 00 revivals every few years like we do with the 60s and 70s.
If it wasn't white, smooth and shiny it wasn't technology.
If it didn't have more buckles than neccessary or a tip of the hat to terrible 70s fashion, it wasn't clothes.
If it didn't look like some 1987 architectural student drew it with a sharpie and some watercolours it wasn't a car.
At least the 80s and 90s will be remembered, if only because of how bad they were. The 2000s are a nothing decade, no defining icons of fashion or design other than the ipod, which in itself is boring to look at.