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Comic Book Novels:...What, JUST Words?

OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
edited November 2006 in Graphic Violence
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It isn't something that's suddenlly appeared, but novels based on comic-book characters still can be viewed as a curiousity and almost alien concept. This holds true for original stories and perhaps even more so for stories transcribed straight from a comic book. With a new run of novels being offered by both DC and Marvel, I thought we could use a thread to discuss the merits of trying to bring the colorful characters from both those companies and others out from their paneled cage within a page and down to the limits of black and white letters. Is it worth the effort or is it all just a big waste of paper that could be used to print out actual comic books? And on the flip-side of the subject, should regular literary characters and their authors cross over to the comic-rack side or should they stay right where they are?

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The Sinister Six books by Adam Troy Castro is pretty much the best Spider-Man story in the last decade.

    I'm a real fan of comic novels, because it's so much more for your dollar. Sure you don't get the pretty pictures, but you do get a lot more story.

    Oh, and the Hellboy books are fanfuckingtastic.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bloods End wrote:
    The Sinister Six books by Adam Troy Castro is pretty much the best Spider-Man story in the last decade.

    I'm a real fan of comic novels, because it's so much more for your dollar. Sure you don't get the pretty pictures, but you do get a lot more story.

    Oh, and the Hellboy books are fanfuckingtastic.

    you mean the ones with The Gentleman? they are really good.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Shoe, yes.

    Mysterio was actully a competant villian, Dr. Ock was threatening, Electro was usefull, it was amazing.

    And god it had a lot of cameos. It had the characters from Preacher, and even the Scooby Doo gane.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Mark Cerasini's Weapon X novel is horrid. Avoid.

    Other than that, I've read the No Man's Land novelization, which is really excellent, better than the comics.

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  • Kaosu ReidoKaosu Reido Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I noticed the Infinite Kettle Of Fish novel, and it seems even worse than the comics.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The COIE novel is also good, and written from Barry Allen's POV.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Whoa whoa whoa

    That first book

    Does that have Batman and the Question in it?

    Because if it does I need to own it and read it right the fuck now.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited November 2006
    The COIE novel is also good, and written from Barry Allen's POV.

    it is like really super good

    the end makes me cry

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I love how Razorback was in absolutely ever Marvel Comics novel I ever read, for some reason.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I never read Knightfall in comic form. I read it in book form. And it was fucking spectacular.

    edit: apparently written by the same author as that first book in the OP.

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  • Dollarsign42Dollarsign42 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Olivaw wrote:
    Whoa whoa whoa

    That first book

    Does that have Batman and the Question in it?

    Because if it does I need to own it and read it right the fuck now.

    Shit, I would read just a Question novel, but Batman is in it too? I must
    have.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    PostPosted: Today - 05:00 pm Post subject: Re: Comic Book Novels:...What, JUST Words?
    Olivaw wrote:
    Whoa whoa whoa

    That first book

    Does that have Batman and the Question in it?

    Because if it does I need to own it and read it right the fuck now.


    Shit, I would read just a Question novel, but Batman is in it too? I must
    have.


    Plus Lady Shiva/

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
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    This is a good fucking book.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The Hellboy prose books are so good.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited November 2006
    the cal mcdonald novellas are really, really, really, really good

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bloods End wrote:
    Olivaw wrote:
    PostPosted: Today - 05:00 pm Post subject: Re: Comic Book Novels:...What, JUST Words?

    Whoa whoa whoa

    That first book

    Does that have Batman and the Question in it?

    Because if it does I need to own it and read it right the fuck now


    Shit, I would read just a Question novel, but Batman is in it too? I must
    have.


    Plus Lady Shiva/

    And Richard Dragon. Seems to be a novelization of the Question's origin from what I could tell from the description on the back.

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  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I never read Knightfall in comic form. I read it in book form. And it was fucking spectacular.

    edit: apparently written by the same author as that first book in the OP.

    i read that too. i liked it a lot. when i got back into comics, i decided i'd collect the trades of the knightfall story.

    oh god are they awful. the art is atrocious and the writing is beyond bad.

    stick with the book.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    I had a few of the X-Men novels from the 90s. They were decent, I guess. Had a few pretty awesome scenes with Iceman using his powers quite offensively.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Not based off of a comic book, but the best super hero novels out there are the Wild Card series. They're edited and co-written by George RR Matrin and tons of the best sci-fi authors around. An alien virus gives people around the world super powers after the end of World War 2. The series then follows the world as it's changed by this outbreak through a series of short stories. The first book is kind of dry, but after that it's great - I believe there are somewhere around 20 books that have been coming out since the 80's, and new editions were recently announced.

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  • robocop is bleedingrobocop is bleeding Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Seconding Wild Cards. There's over a dozen books in the series (with more coming out at random intervals) and it's really, really good. When I think of superhero universes, I think of Wild Cards before I think of DC or Marvel.

    I recently read the Infinity Crisis novelization and it was flirting with being okay at best. Too much comics history I did not know about distracting me from the story (I'm a casual reader and don't know/care much about past subplots and the like), but that would be a problem with me reading the trade as well.

    Also It's Superman! was a suprisingly good retelling of Superman's origin in a 'real world' setting.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

    It spends two pages just describing the size of Captain Marvel's junk

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

    it's pretty good.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Keith wrote:
    Bad Karma wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

    It spends two pages just describing the size of Captain Marvel's junk

    Yeah? Well Wild Cards' version of Dr. Strange harnesses his powers by holding in his semen when orgasms during tantric sex. Beat that.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Keith wrote:
    Bad Karma wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just saw a Kingdom Come novelization at a used bookstore. :|

    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

    It spends two pages just describing the size of Captain Marvel's junk

    Yeah? Well Wild Cards' version of Dr. Strange harnesses his powers by holding in his semen when orgasms during tantric sex. Beat that.

    I didn't say you couldn't beat Captain Marvel's meat.

    I just said it would take about six different sets of hands to do it.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Yeah the Kingdom Come book is pretty cool. It does make the bible analogies even more obvious though.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I liked the Batman: No Man's Land novelization. It was good to flesh that whole period out, getting a view through Batgirl/Cassandra Cain's pov was good since she didn't talk in the comics, and it makes the death of [spoiler:6870670965]Commisioner Gordon's wife[/spoiler:6870670965] even more vivid and painful.

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  • RiginalRiginal Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I never read Knightfall in comic form. I read it in book form. And it was fucking spectacular.

    edit: apparently written by the same author as that first book in the OP.

    I loved that book. I read it when I was dragged along on a camping trip with my family; I'm not sure if I actually put it down before I reached the end.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    I liked the Batman: No Man's Land novelization. It was good to flesh that whole period out, getting a view through Batgirl/Cassandra Cain's pov was good since she didn't talk in the comics, and it makes the death of [spoiler:bf0b06d7b6]Commisioner Gordon's wife[/spoiler:bf0b06d7b6] even more vivid and painful.

    why is that a spoiler

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  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Reading Kingdom Come? Without the purdy pictures?

    That is sick.

    Im withya there, I don't get the appeal of it myself. Also I find novels really hard to get into. Too much discription and what not when with comics the picture is already there for you so you don't have to use words to visualize.

    Did I quote right? Im new to this site.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The closest I've come to comic novels is the two CoH books. The first one I really liked, since it basically explains the entire origin of superpowers in the CoH universe, and explains how the main hero and villain archnemesis thing got started. The second, though, seems a lot more like a generic supergroup adventure, and I did think that it didn't really do much as a novel.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Did I quote right? Im new to this site.

    No, you quoted the wrong person. All you need to do is hit the quote button under a post, and the rest is done for you.

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  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Did I quote right? Im new to this site.

    No, you quoted the wrong person. All you need to do is hit the quote button under a post, and the rest is done for you.

    likes this...

    yeah im a fucking idiot. Captain Marvel and his giant bulge would take up quite a number of pages in a book.

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  • Zodiac BraveZodiac Brave Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Does anyone know if the No Man's Land novelization is worth picking up? I still haven't bought any of the TPBs for the comic series, and buying the novel would probably be more wallet-friendly.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    If I'm remembering correctly, Volume 3 or 4 (I think 4) of No Man's Land did absolutely nothing to further the plot

    like, it was all side stories

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